Stus-List Shore power protection - ELCI's - who has installed one? Survey issue?

2014-11-24 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
An ELCI is an electric leakage current interrupter.  Any lister installed
one?  Essentially, they are the equivalent of a GFCI for receptacles but
protect the whole boat.  An ELCI is installed on the shore power feed to
the boat.  It can take the place of the main AC breaker.

https://www.bluesea.com/products/category/ELCI_and_GFCI

Whereas your AC receptacles may be protected by a GFCI, your other AC
users, hot water heater, air conditioner, hard wired battery charger, etc.
are not unless you've installed an ELCI.

I think they may be ABYC required for new boats.  Any lister heard a
surveyor mention one during a survey?

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List Shore power protection - ELCI's - who has installed one? Survey issue?

2014-11-24 Thread ed vanderkruk via CnC-List
I installed the ELCI breaker panel PN8102. Having such a breaker does not
remove the GFCI requirement at other outlets. These ABYC regulations apply
to new boat construction but are worthwhile upgrades.

Ed
On Nov 24, 2014 1:36 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
wrote:

 An ELCI is an electric leakage current interrupter.  Any lister installed
 one?  Essentially, they are the equivalent of a GFCI for receptacles but
 protect the whole boat.  An ELCI is installed on the shore power feed to
 the boat.  It can take the place of the main AC breaker.

 https://www.bluesea.com/products/category/ELCI_and_GFCI

 Whereas your AC receptacles may be protected by a GFCI, your other AC
 users, hot water heater, air conditioner, hard wired battery charger, etc.
 are not unless you've installed an ELCI.

 I think they may be ABYC required for new boats.  Any lister heard a
 surveyor mention one during a survey?

 Dennis C.
 Touche' 35-1 #83
 Mandeville, LA

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Re: Stus-List Shore power protection - ELCI's - who has installed one? Survey issue?

2014-11-24 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
I also have the ECLI breaker, but have not installed it yet - I started a total 
rewire of the Enterprise’s AC circuits and expect to be finished by the Spring. 
The first outlet in the series will be GFCI. 

I’ve run all the wires, installed new outlets and just need to install the 
panel with the inverter/shore power switch. The torn skin on my knuckles and 
the bruises have all healed. so I can’t wait to get going again. Launch in 5 
months!

Want to see the finished product? Come to the 2015 Northeast CC Rendezvous :-)



All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/
 On Nov 24, 2014, at 2:12 PM, ed vanderkruk via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 I installed the ELCI breaker panel PN8102. Having such a breaker does not 
 remove the GFCI requirement at other outlets. These ABYC regulations apply to 
 new boat construction but are worthwhile upgrades.
 
 Ed
 
 On Nov 24, 2014 1:36 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
 mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 An ELCI is an electric leakage current interrupter.  Any lister installed 
 one?  Essentially, they are the equivalent of a GFCI for receptacles but 
 protect the whole boat.  An ELCI is installed on the shore power feed to the 
 boat.  It can take the place of the main AC breaker.
 
 https://www.bluesea.com/products/category/ELCI_and_GFCI 
 https://www.bluesea.com/products/category/ELCI_and_GFCI
 
 Whereas your AC receptacles may be protected by a GFCI, your other AC users, 
 hot water heater, air conditioner, hard wired battery charger, etc. are not 
 unless you've installed an ELCI.
 
 I think they may be ABYC required for new boats.  Any lister heard a surveyor 
 mention one during a survey?
 
 Dennis C.
 Touche' 35-1 #83
 Mandeville, LA
 
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Re: Stus-List Shore power protection - ELCI's - who has installed one? Survey issue?

2014-11-24 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
I don’t think anyone on the list has a new boat…   :^)

Yes, they are ABYC-required on new construction; I’ve heard of very few people 
who have retrofitted them on an older vessel.  And I haven’t heard of a survey 
requiring a retrofit; more of a suggestion, maybe.

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

On Nov 24, 2014, at 12:36 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
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 I think they may be ABYC required for new boats.  Any lister heard a surveyor 
 mention one during a survey?

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