Re: Stus-List determining PHRF rating

[dwight veinot via CnC-List]

PHRF is location dependent I believe and it is a performance based
number...I often refer to New England PHRF's because conditions in New
Englan area are similar to around here so I am told;

heck here:

http://www.phrfne.org/page/handicapping/base_handicaps
Dwight Veinot
C 35 MKII, Alianna
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
d.ve...@bellaliant.net



On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 9:45 PM, Paul Hood via CnC-List
 wrote:
> I'm looking for the PHRF rating on my boat and came across the C site.
> There are 10 models listed and I don't have a clue where mine fits in all of
> this. Would I use the Lake Ontario rating or the Manufacturers rating...or,
> do I look totally elsewhere?
>
> 34 FOOT
> 34 FOOT CB
> 34 FOOT + DK
> 34 FOOT + WK
> 34 FOOT R
> 34 FOOT XL
> 34/36 FOOT
> 34/36 FOOT R
> 34/36 FOOT XL
> 34/36 FOOT WK
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> Paul Hood
> '82 C Georgian Bay, ON
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Re: Stus-List determining PHRF rating

[Michael Brown via CnC-List]

Hi Paul,

  are you looking for:

1 - a SP ( Speed Potential ) rating for a C 34
2 - a SP for your C 34
3 - an ASP ( Adjusted Speed Potential ) for your C 34 ( possible rating 
adjustment for sail size )
4 - a valid  PHRF certificate, likely from PHRF-LO, so you can enter a race

This might help a bit to see which class your boat is in:

http://phrf-lo.org/index.php?option=com_fabrik=table=5=0=0=206

You can match length, beam and draft. Don't worry about displacement, it is 
usually pretty optimistic.


Michael Brown
Windburn
C 30-1


Date: Mon, 29 Feb 2016 20:45:17 -0500 
From: "Paul Hood" <paul.h...@rogers.com> 
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I'm looking for the PHRF rating on my boat and came across the C site. 
There are 10 models listed and I don't have a clue where mine fits in all of 
this. Would I use the Lake Ontario rating or the Manufacturers rating...or, 
do I look totally elsewhere? 
 
34 FOOT  
34 FOOT CB  
34 FOOT + DK  
34 FOOT + WK 
34 FOOT R 
34 FOOT XL  
34/36 FOOT  
34/36 FOOT R  
34/36 FOOT XL  
34/36 FOOT WK 
 
Paul Hood 
'82 C Georgian Bay, ON 
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Stus-List determining PHRF rating

[Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List]

Hi Paul, 

Your phrf will be determined by the local phrf  committee You just need to 
know about your rig and keel.  As mentioned by others the 34+, 34/36 R, 
WK, XL are a different design boat. 

Here's what you need to know:

How deep is your keel  DK stands for deep keel, usually about 6.5 - 7.0 
feet, Is it a centerboard (CB) keel? Usually the CB keel or if you have a 
"shoal" shallower version with a bulb or wing you will get points back 
How is your headsail rigged?  Is it on a furler?  - You will typically get 
points back for a furler
What is the max size head sail you will be using?  Typically a 135% or 
150% Headsail.  the % is proportional to your "J" measurement.  100% is 
the same as the "J" and so on.  Typically you'll get points back if the 
largest headsail you use is less than 140% 
Was there a TM or tall mast version of your boat?  Sometimes the "I" "E", 
or "P" measurements can vary, the smaller ones get points back
Are you using a folding or feathering prop? 2 blades or 3 blades? 3 blades 
fixed will get you points back 
Any structural or weight saving modifications done to the boat? 
Spinnaker: Standard, oversize, or Asym? Standard Spin typically has a max 
girth that is 180% of J


As for the ratings across other regions, that will give you an idea and 
will help guide your phrf committee if they aren't familiar with the 
boat..  A national average for your boat is a good place to start.. 

This is where you get the US Sailing phrfs for all boats across the US and 
Canada:  
http://www.ussailing.org/wp-content/uploads/DARoot/Offshore/PHRF/2014%20PHRF%20Handicaps%20Data.pdf


Good luck with it. 

Have fun racing

-Francois Rivard
1990 34+ "Take Five"
Lake Lanier, GA






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I'm looking for the PHRF rating on my boat and came across the C site.
There are 10 models listed and I don't have a clue where mine fits in all 
of
this. Would I use the Lake Ontario rating or the Manufacturers 
rating...or,
do I look totally elsewhere?

34 FOOT 
34 FOOT CB 
34 FOOT + DK 
34 FOOT + WK
34 FOOT R
34 FOOT XL 
34/36 FOOT 
34/36 FOOT R 
34/36 FOOT XL 
34/36 FOOT WK

Paul Hood
'82 C Georgian Bay, ON


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Re: Stus-List determining PHRF rating

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Paul,

In LI Sound, the base rating of a C 34 is 144. Will be different elsewhere. 

The Enterprise-A was a 1978 C 34. 


All the best,

Edd

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On Feb 29, 2016, at 10:08 PM, David Knecht via CnC-List  
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34/36, 34 foot + and 34XL refer to the 34+ made from 1989 on which was 35.5 
feet LOA.  It came in wing keel (WK), racing (R), hybrid (XL) versions and some 
(like mine) that is a mix of those names.  So, as John says,  the first one is 
what was made in 82 and is just called the 34 and is actually 34’ LOA.  Dave

> On Feb 29, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Paul Hood via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I'm looking for the PHRF rating on my boat and came across the C site.
> There are 10 models listed and I don't have a clue where mine fits in all of
> this. Would I use the Lake Ontario rating or the Manufacturers rating...or,
> do I look totally elsewhere?
> 
> 34 FOOT 
> 34 FOOT CB 
> 34 FOOT + DK 
> 34 FOOT + WK
> 34 FOOT R
> 34 FOOT XL 
> 34/36 FOOT 
> 34/36 FOOT R 
> 34/36 FOOT XL 
> 34/36 FOOT WK
> 
> Paul Hood
> '82 C Georgian Bay, ON
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Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT



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Re: Stus-List determining PHRF rating

[David Knecht via CnC-List]

34/36, 34 foot + and 34XL refer to the 34+ made from 1989 on which was 35.5 
feet LOA.  It came in wing keel (WK), racing (R), hybrid (XL) versions and some 
(like mine) that is a mix of those names.  So, as John says,  the first one is 
what was made in 82 and is just called the 34 and is actually 34’ LOA.  Dave

On Feb 29, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Paul Hood via CnC-List  
wrote:

> I'm looking for the PHRF rating on my boat and came across the C site.
> There are 10 models listed and I don't have a clue where mine fits in all of
> this. Would I use the Lake Ontario rating or the Manufacturers rating...or,
> do I look totally elsewhere?
> 
> 34 FOOT 
> 34 FOOT CB 
> 34 FOOT + DK 
> 34 FOOT + WK
> 34 FOOT R
> 34 FOOT XL 
> 34/36 FOOT 
> 34/36 FOOT R 
> 34/36 FOOT XL 
> 34/36 FOOT WK
> 
> Paul Hood
> '82 C Georgian Bay, ON
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Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT



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Re: Stus-List determining PHRF rating

[John and Maryann Read via CnC-List]

Paul

Yours is most likely a sistership to our 34, which is very different from
the other 34's listed. Our PHRF in Long Island sound with full keel is 144


John and Maryann
Legacy III
1982 C 34  hull 464
Noank, CT

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I'm looking for the PHRF rating on my boat and came across the C site.
There are 10 models listed and I don't have a clue where mine fits in all of
this. Would I use the Lake Ontario rating or the Manufacturers rating...or,
do I look totally elsewhere?

34 FOOT
34 FOOT CB
34 FOOT + DK
34 FOOT + WK
34 FOOT R
34 FOOT XL
34/36 FOOT
34/36 FOOT R
34/36 FOOT XL
34/36 FOOT WK

Paul Hood
'82 C Georgian Bay, ON




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Stus-List determining PHRF rating

[Paul Hood via CnC-List]

I'm looking for the PHRF rating on my boat and came across the C site.
There are 10 models listed and I don't have a clue where mine fits in all of
this. Would I use the Lake Ontario rating or the Manufacturers rating...or,
do I look totally elsewhere?

34 FOOT 
34 FOOT CB 
34 FOOT + DK 
34 FOOT + WK
34 FOOT R
34 FOOT XL 
34/36 FOOT 
34/36 FOOT R 
34/36 FOOT XL 
34/36 FOOT WK

Paul Hood
'82 C Georgian Bay, ON




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