Re: Stus-List dinghy davits

2016-01-02 Thread David via CnC-List
Yup.  Two dinghy's;

Local AIB RIB with a not-to-be removed (I like my back) 8hp 4 cycle for local 
semi-controlled conditions. As in, if its that bad out, I am not leaving 
anyway.High pressure floor Avon with a very movable 4hp 2 cycle for Gulf of 
Maine or heading down to the Chesapeake offshore etc.   

Only time a dink flipped on me was in Newport harbor in the middle of the 
not-so-bad night.  WTF?   Like a big hand reached out and just flipped it.  


David F. Risch
1981 40-2
(401) 419-4650 (cell)


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Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2015 18:09:41 -0500
Subject: Re: Stus-List dinghy davits
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I have towed this dinghy a *lot* in all kinds of weather, some much much worse 
than that video. I am not saying the dinghy cannot capsize, but it has never 
showed any signs of being even close in the kind of weather we have here in the 
Chesapeake. If it was going to flip, between it and the previous one it would 
have between 2001 and now. The dinghy would be unusable if it could not be 
towed engine on, there is no way I would be constantly getting a long shaft 15 
HP engine on and off of it every time we moved the boat. I have had my old Dyer 
flip under tow, which was a large PITA.  If I even need a dinghy I can deflate, 
I will likely get this thing and a 2-3 HP engine for it. If I didn’t deflate it 
I would take the engine off and tie the bow up in the air to the stern rail, 
which would make capsizing a 
non-event.http://www.boatstogo.com/inflatable_boat_AM365.asp Joe Della 
barba...@dellabarba.com CoquinaC&C 35 MK I From: CnC-List 
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Sailnomad via CnC-List
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Subject: Re: Stus-List dinghy davits That is good to see, and probably the 
norm. But it is like saying, 15 years of driving without a seatbelt, and 
nothing happend. I suspect most of us never had to say "I am glad I had my 
seatbelt on" I had regular dinghys flying circles in the air like kites. I have 
heard of Life Rafts doing the same. I have not experienced an overturned RIB, 
with or without motor, but I know that under the right circumstances, it can 
happen.  Now we may not wonder out under those circumstances, but still, common 
nautical wisdom generally says not to tow the dinghy with the motor on for the 
reasons I explained in the previous email. Now they also say never go to the 
fore-deck without a PFD, always wear shoes, never have a beer while sailing   
etc etc, and we all selectively do whatever we feel comfortable with.I am 
probably guilty of breaking all of those rules at one time or another. On a 
separate note, I found it to be most efficient to adjust the line such that the 
dinghy rides down your bow wave to minimize the drag. On longer trips with 
following waves having two lines in a bridle keeps the dinghy tamed. 
AhmetTabasco C&C 25Waterdancer Irwin 43 CCBoston, MA  On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 
8:30 PM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List  wrote:This is our 
dinghy under tow. In 15 years of RIB with engine-on towing I have never had an 
issue other than the drag.http://www.dellabarba.com/sailing/dinghy.mp4  Joe 
Della barba...@dellabarba.com Coquina
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Re: Stus-List dinghy davits

2015-12-31 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
I have towed this dinghy a *lot* in all kinds of weather, some much much worse 
than that video. I am not saying the dinghy cannot capsize, but it has never 
showed any signs of being even close in the kind of weather we have here in the 
Chesapeake. If it was going to flip, between it and the previous one it would 
have between 2001 and now. The dinghy would be unusable if it could not be 
towed engine on, there is no way I would be constantly getting a long shaft 15 
HP engine on and off of it every time we moved the boat. I have had my old Dyer 
flip under tow, which was a large PITA.

 

 

If I even need a dinghy I can deflate, I will likely get this thing and a 2-3 
HP engine for it. If I didn’t deflate it I would take the engine off and tie 
the bow up in the air to the stern rail, which would make capsizing a non-event.

http://www.boatstogo.com/inflatable_boat_AM365.asp

 

Joe Della Barba

j...@dellabarba.com <mailto:j...@dellabarba.com> 

 

Coquina

C&C 35 MK I

 

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Subject: Re: Stus-List dinghy davits

 

That is good to see, and probably the norm.

 But it is like saying, 15 years of driving without a seatbelt, and nothing 
happend. I suspect most of us never had to say "I am glad I had my seatbelt on"

 

I had regular dinghys flying circles in the air like kites. I have heard of 
Life Rafts doing the same. 

I have not experienced an overturned RIB, with or without motor, but I know 
that under the right circumstances, it can happen. 

 

Now we may not wonder out under those circumstances, but still, common nautical 
wisdom generally says not to tow the dinghy with the motor on for the reasons I 
explained in the previous email.

 

Now they also say never go to the fore-deck without a PFD, always wear shoes, 
never have a beer while sailing   etc etc, and we all selectively do whatever 
we feel comfortable with.

I am probably guilty of breaking all of those rules at one time or another.

 

On a separate note, I found it to be most efficient to adjust the line such 
that the dinghy rides down your bow wave to minimize the drag. On longer trips 
with following waves having two lines in a bridle keeps the dinghy tamed.

 

Ahmet

Tabasco C&C 25

Waterdancer Irwin 43 CC

Boston, MA

 

 

On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 8:30 PM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

This is our dinghy under tow. In 15 years of RIB with engine-on towing I have 
never had an issue other than the drag.

http://www.dellabarba.com/sailing/dinghy.mp4

 

 

Joe Della Barba

j...@dellabarba.com <mailto:j...@dellabarba.com> 

 

Coquina


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Re: Stus-List dinghy davits

2015-12-30 Thread Sailnomad via CnC-List
That is good to see, and probably the norm.
 But it is like saying, 15 years of driving without a seatbelt, and nothing
happend. I suspect most of us never had to say "I am glad I had my seatbelt
on"

I had regular dinghys flying circles in the air like kites. I have heard of
Life Rafts doing the same.
I have not experienced an overturned RIB, with or without motor, but I know
that under the right circumstances, it can happen.

Now we may not wonder out under those circumstances, but still, common
nautical wisdom generally says not to tow the dinghy with the motor on for
the reasons I explained in the previous email.

Now they also say never go to the fore-deck without a PFD, always wear
shoes, never have a beer while sailing   etc etc, and we all selectively do
whatever we feel comfortable with.
I am probably guilty of breaking all of those rules at one time or another.

On a separate note, I found it to be most efficient to adjust the line such
that the dinghy rides down your bow wave to minimize the drag. On longer
trips with following waves having two lines in a bridle keeps the dinghy
tamed.

Ahmet
Tabasco C&C 25
Waterdancer Irwin 43 CC
Boston, MA


On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 8:30 PM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List <
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> This is our dinghy under tow. In 15 years of RIB with engine-on towing I
> have never had an issue other than the drag.
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> http://www.dellabarba.com/sailing/dinghy.mp4
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> Joe Della Barba
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> j...@dellabarba.com
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> Coquina
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Re: Stus-List dinghy davits

2015-12-30 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
This is our dinghy under tow. In 15 years of RIB with engine-on towing I have 
never had an issue other than the drag.

http://www.dellabarba.com/sailing/dinghy.mp4

 

 

Joe Della Barba

j...@dellabarba.com  

 

Coquina

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Stus-List dinghy davits

2015-12-30 Thread Jimmy Kelly via CnC-List
pretty well use my dinghy similar to amenttow when in inland
watersdavits when offshore  or rough seasoriginal dinghy was boston
whaler 9ft sailing ,rowing,motor...changed this few years ago  to
inflatable 9ft inflatable floor model  ...miss solid whaler to row  but
less weight in stern makes a difference on long offshore trips, have always
used low hp outboards  mounted on stern taffrail  with crain for raising
&lowering..on my  1968 redline 41...also used  atkins &hoyle  3 piece
davitsworked well   & still use 30yrs later..the stern on redline not
as flat as c&c 39  nor as large  but it was lot easier to fit backing
blocks...
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