Stus-List Smelly Head and Tank
I have an identical CC 29 mk 2 that I purchased in 2012. I replaced the head the first year as it was in very bad condition. Last year, I replaced all the hoses between the head and the tank and cleaned out the tank. This reduced the smell but did not eliminate it. Earlier this year, I replaced the vent hose and cleaned out the thru hull breather vent (full of spider webs). The vent hose that I installed was ¾ inch and it needed different fittings at the tank and vent ends. Once this was completed, the smells have totally disappeared in the cabin. There is still a lingering odour in the 2 small bow lockers adjacent to the tank. Mine boat is a fresh water boat. Best regards, Bob Hickson, P. Eng, RHI, CEA CC 29-2 Flying Colours Frenchman's Bay Yacht Club Pickering, ON (416) 919-2297 mailto:bobhick...@rogers.com bobhick...@rogers.com __/) ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List smelly head and tank
I second the idea of flushing with fresh water. What really counts is the last flush before leaving the boat. It makes a big difference. This applies (I hear) especially, if you sail in salt water, but even on a lake, the outboard water is not as clean as we would want to believe. So I use either water from the sink/shower head or simply some drinking water from a bottle. I know of some people who re-plumbed the water intake for the head to use the same through-hull as the sink drain. That way you can close the through-hull, fill the sink with water and pump it through the head. Marek From: Indigo via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 10:40 PM To: Bev Parslow ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List smelly head and tank Prevention rather than cure... Here is what I do. Rarely if ever do I have bad head odor Flush only with fresh water - I use the shower head from the sink to flush. Pump out regularly - I pump out after each weekend night away, and as frequently as possible on cruises. Flush thoroughly with fresh water each pump out. I pump lots of fresh water through the head as well as filling the tank via the deck fitting. Repeat until pump out glass shows clean water. -- Jonathan Indigo CC 35III SOUTHPORT CT On Sep 2, 2014, at 22:11, Bev Parslow via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Four years ago I replaced all the hoses for the 29-2. The boat is used by the family with three young children. The head and holding tank is smelling. What is the best way to get rid of this. I could replace the hoses etc. Any advice? ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List smelly head and tank
Hi Bev, A couple of things from my experience of a smelly tank after launch this year: - If the holding tank is smelling, make sure your holding tank vent is working. Anaerobic bacteria cause the particularly noxious smells; they are replaced with aerobic, less smelly, bacteria if there is sufficient oxygen supply. My solar powered fan on the fore hatch broke early this season and the tank started smelling. Replacing that vent fan seemed to cause enough ventilation of the tank (under the v-berth) to solve the issue, so any minute air circulation will help (the vent wasn't blocked). Similarly, getting rid of mud from a wasp nest in the vent hull outlet solved an issue a couple of years back. You are going to have some salt water / waste in the tank regardless of ending the flush with fresh water. Vinegar dissolves salt residue in the hoses / tank - flushing a few gallons of white wine vinegar through the head and then a nice upwind slog into steep chop should clear any build-up out at the next pump out. - if the head is smelling, the fresh water flush will prevent decomposition in the bowl, but make sure that the valves on the head pump / outlet aren't letting anything to flow back from the outlet hose. The joker valve is the usual suspect, but if you're having to pump a lot to prime the pump to get flush water flowing, or to empty the bowl you may want to check the other pump valves too (advice from the list would be to replace the pump assembly completely). Hope this helps. Tim Mojito CC 35-3 Branford, CT On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 10:11 PM, Bev Parslow via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Four years ago I replaced all the hoses for the 29-2. The boat is used by the family with three young children. The head and holding tank is smelling. What is the best way to get rid of this. I could replace the hoses etc. Any advice? ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List smelly head and tank
Everyone will jump on this but nothing beats a little Clorox flushed in or poored into pump out. Jerry Sent from my iPhone On Sep 3, 2014, at 10:44 AM, Tim Goodyear via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Bev, A couple of things from my experience of a smelly tank after launch this year: - If the holding tank is smelling, make sure your holding tank vent is working. Anaerobic bacteria cause the particularly noxious smells; they are replaced with aerobic, less smelly, bacteria if there is sufficient oxygen supply. My solar powered fan on the fore hatch broke early this season and the tank started smelling. Replacing that vent fan seemed to cause enough ventilation of the tank (under the v-berth) to solve the issue, so any minute air circulation will help (the vent wasn't blocked). Similarly, getting rid of mud from a wasp nest in the vent hull outlet solved an issue a couple of years back. You are going to have some salt water / waste in the tank regardless of ending the flush with fresh water. Vinegar dissolves salt residue in the hoses / tank - flushing a few gallons of white wine vinegar through the head and then a nice upwind slog into steep chop should clear any build-up out at the next pump out. - if the head is smelling, the fresh water flush will prevent decomposition in the bowl, but make sure that the valves on the head pump / outlet aren't letting anything to flow back from the outlet hose. The joker valve is the usual suspect, but if you're having to pump a lot to prime the pump to get flush water flowing, or to empty the bowl you may want to check the other pump valves too (advice from the list would be to replace the pump assembly completely). Hope this helps. Tim Mojito CC 35-3 Branford, CT On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 10:11 PM, Bev Parslow via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Four years ago I replaced all the hoses for the 29-2. The boat is used by the family with three young children. The head and holding tank is smelling. What is the best way to get rid of this. I could replace the hoses etc. Any advice? ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List smelly head and tank
I am converting to a composting toilet (Air Head) in a couple weeks. I don't understand why more people on this list have not done the same. When I go into someone else's boat I can almost always smell their holding tank/hoses/whatever. I think people just get used to smelling it and don't notice it after a while. I think they are all smelly. Flushing with fresh water helps because it eliminates the odor of dying sea creatures that would come in thru the seawater intake but it does not eliminate all odors since the primary substance being flushed is still smelly. A larger vent will probably help the most (even up to 1 in diameter). We only have a 15-gallon holding tank which only lasts a few days at most. So, frequent pump outs are necessary and it is becoming costly. The Air Head will pay for itself in 2 to 4 years based on saving pump out costs alone. Bob Bob Boyer S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD 1983 CC Landfall 38 - Hull #230 email: dainyr...@icloud.com blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats. --Kenneth Grahame___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List smelly head and tank
About 5 years ago I removed a Wilcox Crittendon Headmate from Alianna and replaced it with an electric marine toilet. At that time I also replaced all of the associated sanitary hoses and valves. I flush only with salt water and have never used the holding tank even though I have it setup to use at the switch of a 2-way valve. I have never added chlorox or for that matter anything else, except in winter when the entire system is filled with a 50/50 automotive ethylene glycol/water solution. I have not experienced any head related odors since this change over and now after installing a 4 inch solar vent in the main cabin the boat interior smells quite fresh even after several days of being locked up on the mooring. I believe the biggest improvement resulted from installing the new valves and sanitary hoses. I always do a lengthy flush before leaving the boat, but that flush is still done with salt water. I feel very fortunate for my situation but I can assure you that changing out the old head and sanitary hoses was a very unpleasant job. I am not sure what useful lifetime this system has but my experience suggests that old sanitary lines can contribute to head odor related issues and when I start to notice odors again I will take it as an indication that those lines need changing. Dwight Veinot CC 35MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Robert Boyer via CnC-List Sent: September 3, 2014 1:21 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List smelly head and tank I am converting to a composting toilet (Air Head) in a couple weeks. I don't understand why more people on this list have not done the same. When I go into someone else's boat I can almost always smell their holding tank/hoses/whatever. I think people just get used to smelling it and don't notice it after a while. I think they are all smelly. Flushing with fresh water helps because it eliminates the odor of dying sea creatures that would come in thru the seawater intake but it does not eliminate all odors since the primary substance being flushed is still smelly. A larger vent will probably help the most (even up to 1 in diameter). We only have a 15-gallon holding tank which only lasts a few days at most. So, frequent pump outs are necessary and it is becoming costly. The Air Head will pay for itself in 2 to 4 years based on saving pump out costs alone. Bob Bob Boyer S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD 1983 CC Landfall 38 - Hull #230 email: dainyr...@icloud.com blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats. --Kenneth Grahame _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4745 / Virus Database: 4015/8124 - Release Date: 08/29/14 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List smelly head and tank
Four years ago I replaced all the hoses for the 29-2. The boat is used by the family with three young children. The head and holding tank is smelling. What is the best way to get rid of this. I could replace the hoses etc. Any advice?___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List smelly head and tank
Prevention rather than cure... Here is what I do. Rarely if ever do I have bad head odor Flush only with fresh water - I use the shower head from the sink to flush. Pump out regularly - I pump out after each weekend night away, and as frequently as possible on cruises. Flush thoroughly with fresh water each pump out. I pump lots of fresh water through the head as well as filling the tank via the deck fitting. Repeat until pump out glass shows clean water. -- Jonathan Indigo CC 35III SOUTHPORT CT On Sep 2, 2014, at 22:11, Bev Parslow via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Four years ago I replaced all the hoses for the 29-2. The boat is used by the family with three young children. The head and holding tank is smelling. What is the best way to get rid of this. I could replace the hoses etc. Any advice? ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
