[cobirds] Marsh wren
One adult marsh wren at morey wildlife reserve. Easy to find, but beware of the ticks. They are everywhere. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Colorado Birds" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cobirds+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to cobirds@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/cobirds/a63812db-3ead-4db6-bf47-0243d9f0f9f7%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[cobirds] Marsh Wren, Douglas
This morning Urling and I walked the Cherry Creek trail, north from the North Pinery parking area. Before we started we guessed at the species total: I said nine, she said fifteen. Two hours later we returned to the car with 12 species -- and then four Rock Pigeons flew over to bump the list up to 13 species. Two observations of note: we scanned a tree on the west side of the stream that had nice-looking raptor nest in it, and noticed a Red-tailed Hawk perched on the other side of the tree. Going back, an hour and a half later, we saw the hawk perched in the same place. Protecting the nest from Great Horned Owls perhaps? Then we listened, for 25 minutes, to a singing Marsh Wren. When we walked by the singing post at 10:30, we heard nothing. Twenty-five minutes later, the wren had launched into full gear: it sang for 25 minutes straight before we started the trek back to the car. Just before that, Urling spotted another Marsh Wren a couple of hundred yards downstream and later she encountered one upstream a quarter of a mile or more. Meanwhile our singer chattered on and on. We stood within 10 feet of the bird and never had a glimpse -- not even any movement. Why would a Marsh Wren sing so incessantly in November? Do they set up winter territories? Do they simply feel jubilant? Did the singer want to exclude the other wrens from his bailiwick? Hugh Kingery Franktown, CO -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Colorado Birds" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cobirds+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to cobirds@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/cobirds/1510dae8458-7dc-1845b%40webprd-a70.mail.aol.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: [cobirds] Marsh Wren, Douglas
Hugh et al,
In response to your question, observations reported on COBIRDS over the last
few months, and my own observations, I checked the "Birds of North America"
account on Marsh Wren to see what it says about autumn-early winter singing.
While not mentioning November, it did say that juveniles practice a lot of
vocalizations in the autumn period ("thru October" according to the account).
Maybe that is the best guess regarding all this Marsh Wren song of late.
Dave Leatherman
Fort Collins
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2015 19:25:19 -0500
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To: douglbi...@googlegroups.com; cobirds@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cobirds] Marsh Wren, Douglas
This morning Urling and I walked the Cherry Creek trail, north from the North
Pinery parking area. Before we started we guessed at the species total: I said
nine, she said fifteen. Two hours later we returned to the car with 12 species
-- and then four Rock Pigeons flew over to bump the list up to 13 species.
Two observations of note: we scanned a tree on the west side of the stream that
had nice-looking raptor nest in it, and noticed a Red-tailed Hawk perched on
the other side of the tree. Going back, an hour and a half later, we saw the
hawk perched in the same place. Protecting the nest from Great Horned Owls
perhaps?
Then we listened, for 25 minutes, to a singing Marsh Wren. When we walked by
the singing post at 10:30, we heard nothing. Twenty-five minutes later, the
wren had launched into full gear: it sang for 25 minutes straight before we
started the trek back to the car. Just before that, Urling spotted another
Marsh Wren a couple of hundred yards downstream and later she encountered one
upstream a quarter of a mile or more. Meanwhile our singer chattered on and on.
We stood within 10 feet of the bird and never had a glimpse -- not even any
movement.
Why would a Marsh Wren sing so incessantly in November? Do they set up winter
territories? Do they simply feel jubilant? Did the singer want to exclude the
other wrens from his bailiwick?
Hugh Kingery
Franktown, CO
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Re: [cobirds] Marsh Wren, Douglas
A friend of mine just sent me the link below about this exact topic. Food for
thought. This is something I've wondered about for years.
http://www.scilogs.com/maniraptora/why-do-songbirds-sing-in-the-autumn/
Cheers,
Scott Somershoe
Littleton CO
Sent from my iPhone
> On Nov 15, 2015, at 5:43 PM, DAVID A LEATHERMAN wrote:
>
> Hugh et al,
> In response to your question, observations reported on COBIRDS over the last
> few months, and my own observations, I checked the "Birds of North America"
> account on Marsh Wren to see what it says about autumn-early winter singing.
> While not mentioning November, it did say that juveniles practice a lot of
> vocalizations in the autumn period ("thru October" according to the account).
> Maybe that is the best guess regarding all this Marsh Wren song of late.
>
> Dave Leatherman
> Fort Collins
>
> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2015 19:25:19 -0500
> From: cobirds@googlegroups.com
> To: douglbi...@googlegroups.com; cobirds@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [cobirds] Marsh Wren, Douglas
>
> This morning Urling and I walked the Cherry Creek trail, north from the North
> Pinery parking area. Before we started we guessed at the species total: I
> said nine, she said fifteen. Two hours later we returned to the car with 12
> species -- and then four Rock Pigeons flew over to bump the list up to 13
> species.
>
> Two observations of note: we scanned a tree on the west side of the stream
> that had nice-looking raptor nest in it, and noticed a Red-tailed Hawk
> perched on the other side of the tree. Going back, an hour and a half later,
> we saw the hawk perched in the same place. Protecting the nest from Great
> Horned Owls perhaps?
>
> Then we listened, for 25 minutes, to a singing Marsh Wren. When we walked by
> the singing post at 10:30, we heard nothing. Twenty-five minutes later, the
> wren had launched into full gear: it sang for 25 minutes straight before we
> started the trek back to the car. Just before that, Urling spotted another
> Marsh Wren a couple of hundred yards downstream and later she encountered one
> upstream a quarter of a mile or more. Meanwhile our singer chattered on and
> on. We stood within 10 feet of the bird and never had a glimpse -- not even
> any movement.
>
> Why would a Marsh Wren sing so incessantly in November? Do they set up winter
> territories? Do they simply feel jubilant? Did the singer want to exclude the
> other wrens from his bailiwick?
>
>
> Hugh Kingery
> Franktown, CO
>
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RE: [cobirds] Marsh Wren, Douglas
Scott et al,
I found this discussion very interesting. I wonder which, if any, of the three
known drivers of autumn song presented in the SciLogs piece apply to Marsh
Wrens? Since the great majority of Marsh Wrens are migrants, it doesn't seem
like the answer would be early selection of next spring's breeding territories
(like Starlings or House Sparrows). Since they don't hang around, at least
most of them, and certainly not in flocks, maintenance of social structure
doesn't seem to fit (as in photorefractory, flocking species like White-crowned
Sparrows). The production and activation of testosteronelike hormones, such as
has been discovered in some species with DHEA, might be happening with Marsh
Wrens. But again, most of them are not year-'round resident individuals as in
the cited case of Song Sparrows. "Song practicing/perfecting" by birds of the
year mentioned in the Marsh Wren BNA account but not mentioned in the SciLogs
article seems to be a fourth possibility. Hugh has told me about dipper adults
singing to youngsters about to fledge in what seems to be singing "lessons".
Wrens and dippers, at least as currently construed, are fairly closely related.
Maybe some of the autumn Marsh Wren song we hear is adults giving lessons for
the benefit of young birds prior to migration, AND young birds repeating it
back prior to migration, trying to get it right months prior to their first
crack at breeding next spring?
Other birds doing a lot of singing of late, some of them mentioned in various
posts on COBIRDS, are Western Meadowlarks (which, similar to Marsh Wrens,
mostly migrate out of Colorado), migrating American Robins, Brown Creepers
freshly-arrived at low elevation from higher elevation, and certainly
Townsend's Solitaires setting up winter territories. Northern Shrikes sing a
lot right after showing up at this time of year, which also seems to be a
winter territory thing. I have always wondered if there is an "exuberance"
factor associated with barometric pressure and/or impending big events like
migration, that triggers singing in birds. We've all seen it - days when large
numbers of birds are together but basically quiet, and days when they seem
"juiced up" and hyper. What is going on in these situations?
Probably a mixture of mechanisms at work here, especially considering all the
species we hear singing in autumn, but Hugh's question and the SciLogs piece
provided by Scott definitely have me inclined to pay closer attention to which
species is singing where and under what conditions related to their seasonal
status. Long live COBIRDS.
Dave Leatherman
Fort Collins
From: ssomers...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [cobirds] Marsh Wren, Douglas
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2015 20:12:26 -0700
To: cobirds@googlegroups.com
A friend of mine just sent me the link below about this exact topic. Food for
thought. This is something I've wondered about for years.
http://www.scilogs.com/maniraptora/why-do-songbirds-sing-in-the-autumn/
Cheers,Scott Somershoe Littleton CO
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 15, 2015, at 5:43 PM, DAVID A LEATHERMAN wrote:
Hugh et al,
In response to your question, observations reported on COBIRDS over the last
few months, and my own observations, I checked the "Birds of North America"
account on Marsh Wren to see what it says about autumn-early winter singing.
While not mentioning November, it did say that juveniles practice a lot of
vocalizations in the autumn period ("thru October" according to the account).
Maybe that is the best guess regarding all this Marsh Wren song of late.
Dave Leatherman
Fort Collins
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2015 19:25:19 -0500
From: cobirds@googlegroups.com
To: douglbi...@googlegroups.com; cobirds@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cobirds] Marsh Wren, Douglas
This morning Urling and I walked the Cherry Creek trail, north from the North
Pinery parking area. Before we started we guessed at the species total: I said
nine, she said fifteen. Two hours later we returned to the car with 12 species
-- and then four Rock Pigeons flew over to bump the list up to 13 species.
Two observations of note: we scanned a tree on the west side of the stream that
had nice-looking raptor nest in it, and noticed a Red-tailed Hawk perched on
the other side of the tree. Going back, an hour and a half later, we saw the
hawk perched in the same place. Protecting the nest from Great Horned Owls
perhaps?
Then we listened, for 25 minutes, to a singing Marsh Wren. When we walked by
the singing post at 10:30, we heard nothing. Twenty-five minutes later, the
wren had launched into full gear: it sang for 25 minutes straight before we
started the trek back to the car. Just before that, Urling spotted another
Marsh Wren a couple of hundred yards downstream and later she encountered one
upstream a quarter of a mile or more. Meanwhile
[cobirds] Marsh Wren, Walden reservoir, Jackson County
In my earlier post I meant to write Marsh Wren (not Bewick's) at Walden reservoir ! Been long day! Thanks for spotting that Nick! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Colorado Birds" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cobirds+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to cobirds@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/cobirds/BLU436-SMTP301291D632E1691C329ABB2D50%40phx.gbl. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[cobirds] Marsh Wren - Jeffco - Wheat Ridge Greenbelt - Bass Lake
Birders, Sorry for the late post. 2 days ago, March 31, I had a singing Marsh Wren on the north shore of Bass Lake in the Greenbelt. Bass Lake is just east of West Lake. -- Ira Sanders Golden, CO "My mind is a raging torrent flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives." -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Colorado Birds" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cobirds+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/cobirds/CABF3siGY-79NKJWji0jFGD8HZpF1CqPRvRMpP9d7OsqiK65AeQ%40mail.gmail.com.
[cobirds] Marsh Wren Fountain Creek Nature Park El Paso County
Went out birding this morning to do some photographing. The Flickers were going crazy in the woods with drumming and kekking! Actually, the birds were all making alot of noise in hopes of spring's arrival. At the bridge between the two ponds we found a Marsh Wren missing it's tail moving around in the cattails. We also had a pair of Hooded Mergansers, Pied-billed Grebe, Great Blue Heron, American Coots, Red- winged Blackbirds, Common Grackles and Canada Geese. Debbie Barnes Colorado Springs, CO --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join us at the 2009 Convention in Alamosa: http://cfo-link.org/convention/index.php You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Colorado Birds" group. To post to this group, send email to cobirds@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cobirds+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.as/group/cobirds?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cobirds] Marsh wren and yellow headed blackbirds at Teller Lake
Boulder County, my FOS for those two, plus a nice pair of wood ducks on the lake, as well as a number of other ducks. Sent from my iPhone Elena Holly Klaver Federally Certified Court Interpreter Conference Interpreter English <> Spanish 303 475 5189 Member: American Translators Association Colorado Translators Association Pronouns: she, her, hers I acknowledge that I live in the territory of Hinóno’éí (Arapaho), Cheyenne and Ute Nations, according to the 1851 Treaty of Fort Laramie, and that Colorado’s Front Range is home to many Native peoples. Reconozco que vivo en el territorio de las naciones Hinóno’éí (Arapaho), Cheyenne y Ute, según el 1851 Tratado de Fort Laramie, y que el estado de Colorado al esté de las Montañas Rocosas es territorio de muchos pueblos indígenas. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Colorado Birds" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cobirds+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/cobirds/60E702E2-19FC-42EF-ADA0-AACD81D9A95A%40indra.com.
[cobirds] Marsh Wren, Rocky Mtn. Nat. Park, Larimer Co. 5/25
Continuing our visit in the Estes Park area, this morning we had wonderful close views of a Marsh Wren near the side of the road in Moraine Park in Rocky Mountain National Park. I found only a handful of other records in eBird for the Estes Park/RMNP area over the years. The bird was about two thirds of the way down the road from the Bear Lake Road to the Cub Lake trailhead, near the two cabins on the north side of the road. On our return up the road we saw the bird a second time interacting with a House Wren, giving us a nice comparison of the two species. There were also lots of American Pipits in Moraine Park, apparently waiting for all that snow above tree line to start to melt. Jim NelsonBethesda, Maryland -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Colorado Birds" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cobirds+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to cobirds@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/cobirds/17149468.1919241.1432584475872.JavaMail.root%40vznit170060.mailsrvcs.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
