Re: [cobirds] Re: Eastern meadowlark?

[Lisa Carp]

Thx for posting Gary.
Lisa Carp
Superior

On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 3:44 PM 'The "Nunn Guy"' via Colorado Birds <
cobirds@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hi all
>
> With all of the recent talk of Eastern Meadowlark I did a quick search on
> identifying between the two and found this useful article:
> https://www.birds.cornell.edu/crows/mlarkdiff.htm
>
> Thanks Gary Lefko, Nunn
> http://www.friendsofthepawneegrassland.org
>
>
> On Thursday, June 4, 2020 at 3:15:53 PM UTC-6, Marcia Wade - Lafayette,
> Boulder County wrote:
>>
>> I saw a Bullock's oriole on S. Boulder Rd. and Cimarron St. in Louisville
>> on Tues. (6/2) at about 3 p.m. - it was flying south across an empty
>> field.  At Greenlee in Lafayette the same day at dusk, I saw a female
>> downey woodpecker, a yellowheaded blackbird, an osprey hunting over the
>> lake, a black chinned hummingbird, and a Swainson's hawk being pursued by a
>> really pissed off red-winged blackbird.  The blackbird kept diving the hawk
>> until she flew back to her nest.  She hopped around the nest for a few
>> minutes and then snuggled down into the nest until she completely
>> disappeared.  The blackbird stood nearby shrieking, and still was when I
>> passed by 20 min. later.  Wednesday at dusk I saw two Swainson's hawks (one
>> is a dark morph - ID'd for me by Mr. Sudjian) two blocks south of 104th and
>> Dillon Road - one on a light pole, one in a tree.  Also saw a snowy egret
>> and a yellow rumped warbler (eastern) in pond to west of Stearns Lake, and
>> the meadowlark pictured below.  I think it is an eastern meadowlark b/c the
>> area behind the base of the lower mandible is white instead of yellow.
>> Anyone agree?  I couldn't get a clear recording of his song b/c the red
>> wings were causing such a rucus.
>>
>> [image: DSCN6469.JPG][image: DSCN6472.JPG]
>>
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[cobirds] Re: Eastern meadowlark?

[Caleb A]

Hello Marcia!
Great photos--too bad you couldn't obtain audio! I read Gary's link about 
Eastern versus Western Meadowlarks, and after carefully studying the images 
by Cornell and yours, I am leaning toward this bird being a Western 
Meadowlark.
I definitely noticed that white part just under the lower mandible, but it 
just looks like too faint a thin piece, and the yellow from the throat 
"invades" the malar area. Given the amount of variability (check out Gary's 
link--it's really helpful!), I would say that the white visible on your 
bird doesn't quite seem to be a 100% confirming mark to be totally certain 
about Eastern. Did you get good looks at the tail feathers?
Interesting bird!
*The birds are happy, and so am I*
*~Caleb Alons, Larimer County*

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[cobirds] Re: Eastern meadowlark?

['The "Nunn Guy"' via Colorado Birds]

Hi all

With all of the recent talk of Eastern Meadowlark I did a quick search on 
identifying between the two and found this useful article: 
https://www.birds.cornell.edu/crows/mlarkdiff.htm

Thanks Gary Lefko, Nunn
http://www.friendsofthepawneegrassland.org


On Thursday, June 4, 2020 at 3:15:53 PM UTC-6, Marcia Wade - Lafayette, 
Boulder County wrote:
>
> I saw a Bullock's oriole on S. Boulder Rd. and Cimarron St. in Louisville 
> on Tues. (6/2) at about 3 p.m. - it was flying south across an empty 
> field.  At Greenlee in Lafayette the same day at dusk, I saw a female 
> downey woodpecker, a yellowheaded blackbird, an osprey hunting over the 
> lake, a black chinned hummingbird, and a Swainson's hawk being pursued by a 
> really pissed off red-winged blackbird.  The blackbird kept diving the hawk 
> until she flew back to her nest.  She hopped around the nest for a few 
> minutes and then snuggled down into the nest until she completely 
> disappeared.  The blackbird stood nearby shrieking, and still was when I 
> passed by 20 min. later.  Wednesday at dusk I saw two Swainson's hawks (one 
> is a dark morph - ID'd for me by Mr. Sudjian) two blocks south of 104th and 
> Dillon Road - one on a light pole, one in a tree.  Also saw a snowy egret 
> and a yellow rumped warbler (eastern) in pond to west of Stearns Lake, and 
> the meadowlark pictured below.  I think it is an eastern meadowlark b/c the 
> area behind the base of the lower mandible is white instead of yellow.  
> Anyone agree?  I couldn't get a clear recording of his song b/c the red 
> wings were causing such a rucus.   
>
> [image: DSCN6469.JPG][image: DSCN6472.JPG]
>

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[cobirds] Re: Eastern Meadowlark?

[Joe Kipper]

Daniel,
I have three thoughts in response to your post:
 I am very glad that others are striving to obtain more documentation 
for the Lilian's Eastern Meadowlark that I first reported with Nick Komar 
this weekend! However, the presumed Lilian's individiual has been behaving 
quite territorial near the north-east corner of Bud Mielke, and since you 
saw this bird *west* of Bud Mielke, I would say it is likely not the same 
individual. That does not necessarily mean this bird can't be another 
Eastern M. (Nick and I thought we heard a possible Eastern subspecies sing 
once or twice from an area further north-west of Bud Mielke). I am actually 
not positive whether the bird in your photo has its head turned broadside 
enough for us to see the malar and attempt to ID it. Maybe others could 
speak to that point though, if your photo is ID'able as either Western or 
Eastern. The main thing is that both subspecies of Eastern Meadowlarks sing 
a song that is uniquely different from that of Western. If you the bird 
sang a song that sounds unusual, that would be a clue that you should 
examine it more closely. I am guessing it is liely that someone more 
experience than I will be able to ID your photo as a Western, if you saw 
the bird in a different place.

  If you had a tough time finding the EAME, maybe I should clarify its 
location more precisely. There is a dirt road/trail that begins at S CR 19 
and runs east past the north end of Bud Mielke. If follow that trail to the 
east end, where it turns sharply to the south east, you will find yourself 
at the north-east corner of the reservoir. At that point, you should be 
able to turn and look north, and find the bird sitting on one of the 
fenceposts in the field to the north of the trail. The meadowlark singing 
the Lilian's song also occasionally flies in closer to a large cottonwood 
that is right near that same point of the trail, which can allow for 
clearer recording and possibly better observation.

  I also want to point out that when Joshua Smith observed the bird 
this evening, he reported that he was able to discern extensive white in 
the tail. That is *wonderful news* because I don't think anyone has had the 
opportunity to observe that affirming field mark on this bird up until this 
evening!! I am definitely learning from my experience with this bird and I 
want others to be able to do that as well! My media has finally been 
processed and can be viewed here https://ebird.org/checklist/S69200228

Happy Birding everyone - please stay healthy!!
Joe Kipper,
Fort Collins
joe.kippe...@gmail.com

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[cobirds] Re: Eastern Meadowlark, Greenlee Preserve, Boulder County

[Ted Floyd]

Hi, folks. Several people have asked me offline for precise directions to 
the meadowlark, so I might as well post a response online. The bird was 
here:

*39.995462 North, 105.116205 West*

*a.k.a. 39° 59' 43.7" North, 105° 06' 58.3" West*

It was in a field just west of Waneka Lake, i.e., southwest of Greenlee 
Preserve proper.

Ted Floyd, Lafayette, Boulder County


On Friday, April 7, 2017 at 2:57:32 PM UTC-6, Ted Floyd wrote:
>
> Hey, everybody. I heard and saw (and audio'd and photo'd) an *eastern 
> meadowlark* at Greenlee Preserve, Boulder County, earlier today, Friday, 
> Apr. 7. Other birds at and around the preserve included* wood duck, 
> hooded merganser, black-crowned night-heron, greater yellowlegs, Say 
> phoebe, American bushtit, Audubon warbler, dark-eyed junco,* and *spotted 
> towhee.* eBird checklist, including meadowlark media, here:
>
> http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist/S35760765
>
> Ted Floyd
> Lafayette, Boulder County
>
>
>

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