Re: [cobirds] Re: History - Old bird checklists

[Paula Hansley]

My Apple computer was hacked last year. I lost everything on it and also my 
online backup with Carbonite. The hackers were interested in obtaining my 
mineral data. (I’m a consulting geologist)

I hired one of the best computer experts in the Denver metro area at $300/ hour 
to try to retrieve some of my data. 

I laugh now when I’m asked to use a more secure password. If someone wants to 
steal any data we have online, they can. The best password in the world won’t 
make any difference. 

I will NEVER keep important records only on a computer and a digital back- up 
again. I keep hard copies of anything important. 

Put the checklists on eBird, but keep the paper copies. 

Paula Hansley

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> On Sep 6, 2021, at 7:41 AM, Jeff Percell  wrote:
> 
> You should add the checklists onto eBird, so that everyone can benefit from 
> the data.
> 
> https://support.ebird.org/en/support/solutions/articles/48001158707-get-started-with-ebird
> 
> Thanks,
> Jeff Percell
> Erie, CO
> 
>> On Sunday, September 5, 2021 at 4:58:36 PM UTC-6 ouz...@aol.com wrote:
>> Does anyone know of a place that might have an interest in saving old bird 
>> checklists? I have a packet several inches thick of everything from 
>> Chatfield to Rock Creek to Durango to Bonny and I'm ready to give them away 
>> or to toss them.
>> 
>> Hugh Kingery
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RE: [cobirds] Re: History - Old bird checklists

[Dave Hyde]

I’m glad to see this discussion here. I’ve been keeping yearly paper journals 
of the birds I see on mostly daily basis since 2006 in Colorado (Boulder, 
Gilpin and Larimer counties). I’m getting old, too, and was wondering what to 
do with these as my family would look through them then they’d likely be set 
aside and eventually forgotten and lost. Do you think the Denver Museum of 
Nature and Science would be interested in these even though I am not a famous 
ornithologist, just a bird-watcher of 60, mostly solitary, years of observation?

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Subject: Re: [cobirds] Re: History - Old bird checklists

This is a nice tribute to Hugh Kingery.
Thanks to Hugh and his wife.  I hope you find a place to store your records.



Maureen Blackford
Boulder County, C



 Original message 
From: Patrick O'Driscoll 
Date: 9/6/21 9:23 AM (GMT-07:00)
To: Charles Hundertmark 
Cc: Jeff Percell , Colorado Birds 

Subject: Re: [cobirds] Re: History - Old bird checklists

I wholeheartedly agree with Chuck.
Pre-eBird paper lists are important artifacts of our birding history, 
especially as so much of our recordkeeping has shifted to digital.
And Jeff, your remarks are a great reminder for all of us to archive our 
earlier lists on eBird.
Those of us eBirders who regularly visit Denver City Park know something about 
this.
Sometime after the Cornell Lab invented eBird, a prominent Colorado birder who 
visited City Park regularly in his youth transferred all of his written birding 
lists from there into the database.
Between 1947 and 1950, young Hugh Kingery recorded hundreds of visits  and 
sightings in the park.
eBird tells us now that Hugh was responsible for the first 80 species sightings 
in Denver City Park, all in that period. (More than three decades later, in 
1987, he added two more first sightings.)
Hugh's 320 "Denver City Park" eBird lists far outnumber those of the rest of us.
His is a shining example of the importance of saving all of our sightings to 
the Cornell Lab's brilliant invention.

Good eBirding!

Patrick O'Driscoll
Denver



On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 7:48 AM Charles Hundertmark 
mailto:chundertma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Veteran field ornithologists like Hugh should check into archiving their old 
checklists at the Denver Museum of Nature and Science. It’s an excellent 
archive housing the records of several of the prominent field ornithologists 
from Colorado’s past.

Chuck Hundertmark
Lafayette, CO


On Sep 6, 2021, at 7:41 AM, Jeff Percell 
mailto:jeff.perc...@gmail.com>> wrote:

You should add the checklists onto eBird, so that everyone can benefit from the 
data.

https://support.ebird.org/en/support/solutions/articles/48001158707-get-started-with-ebird

Thanks,
Jeff Percell
Erie, CO
On Sunday, September 5, 2021 at 4:58:36 PM UTC-6 ouz...@aol.com<http://aol.com> 
wrote:
Does anyone know of a place that might have an interest in saving old bird 
checklists? I have a packet several inches thick of everything from Chatfield 
to Rock Creek to Durango to Bonny and I'm ready to give them away or to toss 
them.

Hugh Kingery

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[cobirds] Re: History - Old bird checklists

[Mary Kay Waddington]

Many of you may remember Frank Justice, a long-time birder in the state.
He kept meticulous records over the years, including numbers, time, date,
exact locations and distances traveled, and weather conditions.  And he
kept them in large ledgers -- dozens of them!  His wife Jan, (also a
long-time Colorado birder and now my step-mother and very close friend!)
has allowed me to start entering them in eBird.  They start in the 40's and
I'm only up to 1952 so far.  It is great fun to see how the birds have
changed over the years -- and yes to say, "Oh, sorry Hugh, but Frank saw
that particular species first!"

But there's another side of it that's even more interesting -- The first
time I "shared" one of his checklists with Jan on eBird, she was more than
a little surprised to see an email from Frank Justice (who has been gone
many many years.)  But now it has become a lovely way of sharing her
history -- she receives a shared list and tells me wonderful stories about
where they were and the kinds of things happening as the lists remind her
of them.  Who knew that bird lists could provide a way of relating and
sharing family history!

Mary Kay Waddington

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Re: [cobirds] Re: History - Old bird checklists

[mblackford]

This is a nice tribute to Hugh Kingery.Thanks to Hugh and his wife.  I hope you 
find a place to store your records.  Maureen BlackfordBoulder County, C
 Original message From: Patrick O'Driscoll 
 Date: 9/6/21  9:23 AM  (GMT-07:00) To: Charles 
Hundertmark  Cc: Jeff Percell 
, Colorado Birds  Subject: 
Re: [cobirds] Re: History - Old bird checklists I wholeheartedly agree with 
Chuck.Pre-eBird paper lists are important artifacts of our birding history, 
especially as so much of our recordkeeping has shifted to digital.And Jeff, 
your remarks are a great reminder for all of us to archive our earlier lists on 
eBird.Those of us eBirders who regularly visit Denver City Park know something 
about this.Sometime after the Cornell Lab invented eBird, a prominent Colorado 
birder who visited City Park regularly in his youth transferred all of his 
written birding lists from there into the database.Between 1947 and 1950, young 
Hugh Kingery recorded hundreds of visits  and sightings in the park.eBird tells 
us now that Hugh was responsible for the first 80 species sightings in Denver 
City Park, all in that period. (More than three decades later, in 1987, he 
added two more first sightings.)Hugh's 320 "Denver City Park" eBird lists far 
outnumber those of the rest of us.His is a shining example of the importance of 
saving all of our sightings to the Cornell Lab's brilliant invention.Good 
eBirding!Patrick O'DriscollDenverOn Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 7:48 AM Charles 
Hundertmark  wrote:Veteran field ornithologists like 
Hugh should check into archiving their old checklists at the Denver Museum of 
Nature and Science. It’s an excellent archive housing the records of several of 
the prominent field ornithologists from Colorado’s past.Chuck 
HundertmarkLafayette, COOn Sep 6, 2021, at 7:41 AM, Jeff Percell 
 wrote:You should add the checklists onto eBird, so 
that everyone can benefit from the 
data.https://support.ebird.org/en/support/solutions/articles/48001158707-get-started-with-ebirdThanks,Jeff
 PercellErie, COOn Sunday, September 5, 2021 at 4:58:36 PM UTC-6 ouz...@aol.com 
wrote:

 Does anyone know of a place that might have an interest in saving old bird 
checklists? I have a packet several inches thick of everything from Chatfield 
to Rock Creek to Durango to Bonny and I'm ready to give them away or to toss 
them.


 


Hugh Kingery




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Re: [cobirds] Re: History - Old bird checklists

[Scott Somershoe]

I completely agree with Patrick. I’d add a story about a long time Tennessee 
birder and big time world birder who moved to Florida about 7 years ago. Before 
Terry Witt moved, he threw nearly 50 years of birds records in the trash. 
Nothing is in EBird or Avisis or archived in any way. He told me he threw 
everything out because he didn’t think anyone would want them. Such a shame. 
Unfortunately he passed away about a month ago. 

Even if the records are in EBird, archiving the original field notes would be 
worth the effort. 

My 2 cents. 

Scott Somershoe 
Littleton CO
Green big year stands at 253 species. Zzzz. 

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> On Sep 6, 2021, at 9:23 AM, Patrick O'Driscoll  wrote:
> 
> 
> I wholeheartedly agree with Chuck.
> Pre-eBird paper lists are important artifacts of our birding history, 
> especially as so much of our recordkeeping has shifted to digital.
> And Jeff, your remarks are a great reminder for all of us to archive our 
> earlier lists on eBird.
> Those of us eBirders who regularly visit Denver City Park know something 
> about this.
> Sometime after the Cornell Lab invented eBird, a prominent Colorado birder 
> who visited City Park regularly in his youth transferred all of his written 
> birding lists from there into the database.
> Between 1947 and 1950, young Hugh Kingery recorded hundreds of visits  and 
> sightings in the park.
> eBird tells us now that Hugh was responsible for the first 80 species 
> sightings in Denver City Park, all in that period. (More than three decades 
> later, in 1987, he added two more first sightings.)
> Hugh's 320 "Denver City Park" eBird lists far outnumber those of the rest of 
> us.
> His is a shining example of the importance of saving all of our sightings to 
> the Cornell Lab's brilliant invention.
> 
> Good eBirding!
> 
> Patrick O'Driscoll
> Denver
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 7:48 AM Charles Hundertmark  
>> wrote:
>> Veteran field ornithologists like Hugh should check into archiving their old 
>> checklists at the Denver Museum of Nature and Science. It’s an excellent 
>> archive housing the records of several of the prominent field ornithologists 
>> from Colorado’s past.
>> 
>> Chuck Hundertmark
>> Lafayette, CO
>> 
>>> On Sep 6, 2021, at 7:41 AM, Jeff Percell  wrote:
>>> 
>>> You should add the checklists onto eBird, so that everyone can benefit from 
>>> the data.
>>> 
>>> https://support.ebird.org/en/support/solutions/articles/48001158707-get-started-with-ebird
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jeff Percell
>>> Erie, CO
>>> 
 On Sunday, September 5, 2021 at 4:58:36 PM UTC-6 ouz...@aol.com wrote:
 Does anyone know of a place that might have an interest in saving old bird 
 checklists? I have a packet several inches thick of everything from 
 Chatfield to Rock Creek to Durango to Bonny and I'm ready to give them 
 away or to toss them.
 
 Hugh Kingery
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Re: [cobirds] Re: History - Old bird checklists

[Adrian Lakin]

Hugh,

If you don't want to enter them into eBird, then I'm willing to take them 
from you and enter them into eBird as a historical record. I think it will 
be a fascinating project to go through them and add them to the eBird 
database like Patrick said.

I would create a new eBird account with a name like Hugh Kingery-Archive so 
they are recorded against your name. Once complete, I would look into 
donating them to the museum as Chuck suggested.

Let me know if this is of interest to you and we can arrange to meet up to 
hand over the checklists.

Cheers,

Adrian Lakin,
Mead, CO

On Monday, September 6, 2021 at 9:23:28 AM UTC-6 pato...@gmail.com wrote:

> I wholeheartedly agree with Chuck.
> Pre-eBird paper lists are important artifacts of our birding history, 
> especially as so much of our recordkeeping has shifted to digital.
> And Jeff, your remarks are a great reminder for all of us to archive our 
> earlier lists on eBird.
> Those of us eBirders who regularly visit Denver City Park know something 
> about this.
> Sometime after the Cornell Lab invented eBird, a prominent Colorado birder 
> who visited City Park regularly in his youth transferred all of his written 
> birding lists from there into the database.
> Between 1947 and 1950, young Hugh Kingery recorded hundreds of visits  and 
> sightings in the park.
> eBird tells us now that Hugh was responsible for the first 80 species 
> sightings in Denver City Park, all in that period. (More than three decades 
> later, in 1987, he added two more first sightings.)
> Hugh's 320 "Denver City Park" eBird lists far outnumber those of the rest 
> of us.
> His is a shining example of the importance of saving all of our sightings 
> to the Cornell Lab's brilliant invention.
>
> Good eBirding!
>
> Patrick O'Driscoll
> Denver
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 7:48 AM Charles Hundertmark  
> wrote:
>
>> Veteran field ornithologists like Hugh should check into archiving their 
>> old checklists at the Denver Museum of Nature and Science. It’s an 
>> excellent archive housing the records of several of the prominent field 
>> ornithologists from Colorado’s past.
>>
>> Chuck Hundertmark
>> Lafayette, CO
>>
>> On Sep 6, 2021, at 7:41 AM, Jeff Percell  wrote:
>>
>> You should add the checklists onto eBird, so that everyone can benefit 
>> from the data.
>>
>>
>> https://support.ebird.org/en/support/solutions/articles/48001158707-get-started-with-ebird
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jeff Percell
>> Erie, CO
>>
>> On Sunday, September 5, 2021 at 4:58:36 PM UTC-6 ouz...@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone know of a place that might have an interest in saving old 
>>> bird checklists? I have a packet several inches thick of everything from 
>>> Chatfield to Rock Creek to Durango to Bonny and I'm ready to give them away 
>>> or to toss them.
>>>
>>> Hugh Kingery
>>>
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Re: [cobirds] Re: History - Old bird checklists

[Patrick O'Driscoll]

I wholeheartedly agree with Chuck.
Pre-eBird paper lists are important artifacts of our birding history,
especially as so much of our recordkeeping has shifted to digital.
And Jeff, your remarks are a great reminder for all of us to archive our
earlier lists on eBird.
Those of us eBirders who regularly visit Denver City Park know something
about this.
Sometime after the Cornell Lab invented eBird, a prominent Colorado birder
who visited City Park regularly in his youth transferred all of his written
birding lists from there into the database.
Between 1947 and 1950, young Hugh Kingery recorded hundreds of visits  and
sightings in the park.
eBird tells us now that Hugh was responsible for the first 80 species
sightings in Denver City Park, all in that period. (More than three decades
later, in 1987, he added two more first sightings.)
Hugh's 320 "Denver City Park" eBird lists far outnumber those of the rest
of us.
His is a shining example of the importance of saving all of our sightings
to the Cornell Lab's brilliant invention.

Good eBirding!

Patrick O'Driscoll
Denver



On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 7:48 AM Charles Hundertmark 
wrote:

> Veteran field ornithologists like Hugh should check into archiving their
> old checklists at the Denver Museum of Nature and Science. It’s an
> excellent archive housing the records of several of the prominent field
> ornithologists from Colorado’s past.
>
> Chuck Hundertmark
> Lafayette, CO
>
> On Sep 6, 2021, at 7:41 AM, Jeff Percell  wrote:
>
> You should add the checklists onto eBird, so that everyone can benefit
> from the data.
>
>
> https://support.ebird.org/en/support/solutions/articles/48001158707-get-started-with-ebird
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff Percell
> Erie, CO
>
> On Sunday, September 5, 2021 at 4:58:36 PM UTC-6 ouz...@aol.com wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know of a place that might have an interest in saving old
>> bird checklists? I have a packet several inches thick of everything from
>> Chatfield to Rock Creek to Durango to Bonny and I'm ready to give them away
>> or to toss them.
>>
>> Hugh Kingery
>>
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Re: [cobirds] Re: History - Old bird checklists

[Charles Hundertmark]

Veteran field ornithologists like Hugh should check into archiving their old 
checklists at the Denver Museum of Nature and Science. It’s an excellent 
archive housing the records of several of the prominent field ornithologists 
from Colorado’s past.

Chuck Hundertmark
Lafayette, CO

> On Sep 6, 2021, at 7:41 AM, Jeff Percell  wrote:
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> You should add the checklists onto eBird, so that everyone can benefit from 
> the data.
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> https://support.ebird.org/en/support/solutions/articles/48001158707-get-started-with-ebird
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> Thanks,
> Jeff Percell
> Erie, CO
> 
> On Sunday, September 5, 2021 at 4:58:36 PM UTC-6 ouz...@aol.com wrote:
> Does anyone know of a place that might have an interest in saving old bird 
> checklists? I have a packet several inches thick of everything from Chatfield 
> to Rock Creek to Durango to Bonny and I'm ready to give them away or to toss 
> them.
> 
> Hugh Kingery
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[cobirds] Re: History - Old bird checklists

[Jeff Percell]

You should add the checklists onto eBird, so that everyone can benefit from 
the data.

https://support.ebird.org/en/support/solutions/articles/48001158707-get-started-with-ebird

Thanks,
Jeff Percell
Erie, CO

On Sunday, September 5, 2021 at 4:58:36 PM UTC-6 ouz...@aol.com wrote:

> Does anyone know of a place that might have an interest in saving old bird 
> checklists? I have a packet several inches thick of everything from 
> Chatfield to Rock Creek to Durango to Bonny and I'm ready to give them away 
> or to toss them.
>
> Hugh Kingery
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