[cobirds] Swallow departures from northern Front Range in 2013

2013-09-26 Thread DAVID A LEATHERMAN
So, is it just me or does it seem like Barn Swallows have been the last swallow 
species standing for much longer this late summer-autumn than usual?  

In the way of example, in the northwest corner of Grandview Cemetery in Fort 
Collins there is a bridge over a ditch that hosts nesting by both Cliff and 
Barn Swallows.  It appears to me the Cliff Swallows were single-brooded this 
year and the Barns did their normal double nesting.  Last Cliff was seen there, 
or anywhere else for that matter, on 4 August.  Birder's Handbook by Erlich et 
al says Cliff Swallows usually have 1 brood, sometimes 2-3.  I guess the 
weather this year, particularly the late spring storms and a resultant late 
start to nesting, determined 2013 as a single brood year for the Cliffs.  I 
just don't recall a year when for essentially all of August and September if 
one sees a swallow, one could assume the overwhelming possibility was Barn.  
Given the explosion of aerial insects of late, it seems ironic that a major 
group (excepting Barn) of insect-eaters is no where to be seen.  The analogy 
that comes to mind are sports fans who leave the game early, only to hear 
during their drive home that the home team pulled off a record-setting 
comeback.  Just what is the environmental clue that dominates the decision of a 
species to refrain from, or go for, an additional brood?  Ditto for migration 
south.  Is it day-length, nighttime temps, an assessment of available food 
resources now and into the near future, something else?

I'd be interested in the observations of others about Cliff, or any other 
swallow species for that matter, departing earlier this year compared to a 
normal year, if there is such a thing in CO?  

Dave Leatherman
Fort Collins   
  

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Re: [cobirds] Swallow departures from northern Front Range in 2013

2013-09-26 Thread Libby Edwards
I saw a group of barn swallows (maybe 10-12) Tuesday morning (September 24)
on the wires above the parking lot at Claymore Lake, Reservoir Ridge, Fort
Collins foothills open space.  They were munching up the bugs in the air.
Libby Edwards
Fort Collins


On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 10:29 AM, DAVID A LEATHERMAN
daleather...@msn.comwrote:

 So, is it just me or does it seem like Barn Swallows have been the last
 swallow species standing for much longer this late summer-autumn than
 usual?

 In the way of example, in the northwest corner of Grandview Cemetery in
 Fort Collins there is a bridge over a ditch that hosts nesting by both
 Cliff and Barn Swallows.  It appears to me the Cliff Swallows were
 single-brooded this year and the Barns did their normal double nesting.
 Last Cliff was seen there, or anywhere else for that matter, on 4 August.
 Birder's Handbook by Erlich et al says Cliff Swallows usually have 1
 brood, sometimes 2-3.  I guess the weather this year, particularly the
 late spring storms and a resultant late start to nesting, determined 2013
 as a single brood year for the Cliffs.  I just don't recall a year when for
 essentially all of August and September if one sees a swallow, one could
 assume the overwhelming possibility was Barn.  Given the explosion of
 aerial insects of late, it seems ironic that a major group (excepting Barn)
 of insect-eaters is no where to be seen.  The analogy that comes to mind
 are sports fans who leave the game early, only to hear during their drive
 home that the home team pulled off a record-setting comeback.  Just what is
 the environmental clue that dominates the decision of a species to refrain
 from, or go for, an additional brood?  Ditto for migration south.  Is it
 day-length, nighttime temps, an assessment of available food resources now
 and into the near future, something else?

 I'd be interested in the observations of others about Cliff, or any other
 swallow species for that matter, departing earlier this year compared to a
 normal year, if there is such a thing in CO?

 Dave Leatherman
 Fort Collins

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Re: [cobirds] Swallow departures from northern Front Range in 2013

2013-09-26 Thread Libby Edwards
Actually they are called flocks and not groups of barn swallows :+)
Plus we still have a hummingbird on our feeder every day, some kind of
immature or female, probably broad-tailed.
Libby Edwards
Fort Collins
Larimer Co


On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Libby Edwards libbyeu...@gmail.com wrote:

 I saw a group of barn swallows (maybe 10-12) Tuesday morning (September
 24) on the wires above the parking lot at Claymore Lake, Reservoir Ridge,
 Fort Collins foothills open space.  They were munching up the bugs in the
 air.
 Libby Edwards
 Fort Collins


 On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 10:29 AM, DAVID A LEATHERMAN daleather...@msn.com
  wrote:

 So, is it just me or does it seem like Barn Swallows have been the last
 swallow species standing for much longer this late summer-autumn than
 usual?

 In the way of example, in the northwest corner of Grandview Cemetery in
 Fort Collins there is a bridge over a ditch that hosts nesting by both
 Cliff and Barn Swallows.  It appears to me the Cliff Swallows were
 single-brooded this year and the Barns did their normal double nesting.
 Last Cliff was seen there, or anywhere else for that matter, on 4 August.
 Birder's Handbook by Erlich et al says Cliff Swallows usually have 1
 brood, sometimes 2-3.  I guess the weather this year, particularly the
 late spring storms and a resultant late start to nesting, determined 2013
 as a single brood year for the Cliffs.  I just don't recall a year when for
 essentially all of August and September if one sees a swallow, one could
 assume the overwhelming possibility was Barn.  Given the explosion of
 aerial insects of late, it seems ironic that a major group (excepting Barn)
 of insect-eaters is no where to be seen.  The analogy that comes to mind
 are sports fans who leave the game early, only to hear during their drive
 home that the home team pulled off a record-setting comeback.  Just what is
 the environmental clue that dominates the decision of a species to refrain
 from, or go for, an additional brood?  Ditto for migration south.  Is it
 day-length, nighttime temps, an assessment of available food resources now
 and into the near future, something else?

 I'd be interested in the observations of others about Cliff, or any other
 swallow species for that matter, departing earlier this year compared to a
 normal year, if there is such a thing in CO?

 Dave Leatherman
 Fort Collins

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