Re: [cobirds] WWCR

[Jean Folsom]

I want to say that the over 100 birders that came to view and photograph
the red-bellied woodpecker that has been coming to my feeder since November
24th have been very respectful of my yard, my neighborhood and the bird.
Everyone viewed the bird without entering the yard or invading my privacy.
I was glad to see so many enjoying this special bird! By the way the bird
is still here!!
Jean Folsom


On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 5:36 PM Brian Johnson 
wrote:

> Hi,
> I was wondering if things have changed with this. Today my JeffCO need
> alerts have exploded with people going to chase this bird. I was not
> planing on chasing it out of respect for the owners, as Mark says it's
> their private home. Or is it OK to visit the park only? I would love to see
> a White-wing but I don't want to if it's not welcome.
> Thank you
> Brian Johnson
> Englewood CO
>
> On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 3:56:07 PM UTC-7 Mark wrote:
>
>> COBirders -- Please remember that you NEVER post someone's personal
>> address without their approval.  The first clue is that the homeowner
>> posted her checklist at the park.  There is nothing wrong with looking for
>> the bird and being successful. You just view the bird and post back at the
>> park. You need to remember this is someone's home and neighborhood.  Joe
>> Roller was always great about getting info from the homeowner and getting
>> the rules out to the community. This is just common sense!!
>>
>> We have lost several good birding locations because of birders' rude
>> behavior.  There was a great location up in Summit County that had all the
>> rosies and mountain species.  Several birders knew of the location who were
>> approved by the homeowner.  It was an amazing experience to start the new
>> year!  He only asked that we stay in the street, respect his neighbors, and
>> not post his exact location to social media.  Well, someone posted the
>> exact location and it became a circus!  Not only did he shut it down to
>> birders,  but he took all his feeders down.  I spoke with him after the
>> fact, and he said birders were walking into his backyard, parking in the
>> driveway, and upsetting the neighborhood.  He was very sad that his great
>> backyard experience was taken from him.  In another instance, we had access
>> to an Inca Dove.  The homeowners were really sweet and allowed viewing.
>> They eventually shut it down for their privacy and the health of the bird.
>> She had Joe post that viewing was over.  Birders continued to disrespect
>> her wishes for days.  I asked a birder why she went after the post and she
>> stated "The street is public property so screw them."  Yes, the street may
>> be public, but you are looking with binoculars into their property!  This
>> type of behavior makes me ashamed of those in our birding community who
>> conduct themselves in this manner.
>>
>> Mark Chavez
>> Lakewood-Green Mtn
>> http://jaeger29.smugmug.com/
>>
>> On 12/29/2020 11:34 AM Scott Somershoe  wrote:
>>
>>
>> To all White-winged Crossbill chasers, the owner of the house where the
>> crossbill is present DOES NOT WANT ANY VISITORS. They have a family and do
>> not want people walking on their street, parking in front of their house,
>> etc.  This has been made very clear.  Just passing along info.
>>
>> I would recommend people refrain from swamping this small street and
>> neighborhood per request of the homeowner.
>>
>> Scott Somershoe
>> Littleton CO
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 11:31 AM Arthur Bezuidenhout < odz...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I have the bird at 820 Estes St
>>
>> Bez Bezuidenhout
>> Arapahoe County
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Re: [cobirds] WWCR

[Meg Reck]

I would like to know as well!

Thanks!
Meg Reck
Arapahoe 

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 30, 2020, at 5:36 PM, Brian Johnson  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi,
> I was wondering if things have changed with this. Today my JeffCO need alerts 
> have exploded with people going to chase this bird. I was not planing on 
> chasing it out of respect for the owners, as Mark says it's their private 
> home. Or is it OK to visit the park only? I would love to see a White-wing 
> but I don't want to if it's not welcome.
> Thank you
> Brian Johnson
> Englewood CO
> 
>> On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 3:56:07 PM UTC-7 Mark wrote:
>> COBirders -- Please remember that you NEVER post someone's personal address 
>> without their approval.  The first clue is that the homeowner posted her 
>> checklist at the park.  There is nothing wrong with looking for the bird and 
>> being successful. You just view the bird and post back at the park. You need 
>> to remember this is someone's home and neighborhood.  Joe Roller was always 
>> great about getting info from the homeowner and getting the rules out to the 
>> community. This is just common sense!!
>> We have lost several good birding locations because of birders' rude 
>> behavior.  There was a great location up in Summit County that had all the 
>> rosies and mountain species.  Several birders knew of the location who were 
>> approved by the homeowner.  It was an amazing experience to start the new 
>> year!  He only asked that we stay in the street, respect his neighbors, and 
>> not post his exact location to social media.  Well, someone posted the exact 
>> location and it became a circus!  Not only did he shut it down to birders,  
>> but he took all his feeders down.  I spoke with him after the fact, and he 
>> said birders were walking into his backyard, parking in the driveway, and 
>> upsetting the neighborhood.  He was very sad that his great backyard 
>> experience was taken from him.  In another instance, we had access to an 
>> Inca Dove.  The homeowners were really sweet and allowed viewing.  They 
>> eventually shut it down for their privacy and the health of the bird.  She 
>> had Joe post that viewing was over.  Birders continued to disrespect her 
>> wishes for days.  I asked a birder why she went after the post and she 
>> stated "The street is public property so screw them."  Yes, the street may 
>> be public, but you are looking with binoculars into their property!  This 
>> type of behavior makes me ashamed of those in our birding community who 
>> conduct themselves in this manner. 
>> Mark Chavez 
>> Lakewood-Green Mtn 
>> http://jaeger29.smugmug.com/
 On 12/29/2020 11:34 AM Scott Somershoe  wrote:
  
  
 To all White-winged Crossbill chasers, the owner of the house where the 
 crossbill is present DOES NOT WANT ANY VISITORS. They have a family and do 
 not want people walking on their street, parking in front of their house, 
 etc.  This has been made very clear.  Just passing along info.  
  
 I would recommend people refrain from swamping this small street and 
 neighborhood per request of the homeowner.  
  
 Scott Somershoe
 Littleton CO
 
 On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 11:31 AM Arthur Bezuidenhout < odz...@gmail.com> 
 wrote:
 I have the bird at 820 Estes St
  
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 Arapahoe County
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RE: [cobirds] WWCR

[adrianlakin1]

Hi Brian,

 

I too wasn’t going to chase this bird out of respect for the owner’s wishes, 
but then I saw Joey Negeann’s eBird post referencing the CFO Facebook post from 
the homeowner. I’m not on that group, but here is Joey’s eBird list that 
mentions the rules for viewing it…

 

https://ebird.org/checklist/S78255830

 

It might be best to go in the morning, as I was there for a couple hours this 
afternoon and it wasn’t seen for most of the afternoon.

 

Adrian Lakin,

Mead, CO

 

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Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2020 5:36 PM
To: Colorado Birds 
Subject: Re: [cobirds] WWCR

 

Hi,

I was wondering if things have changed with this. Today my JeffCO need alerts 
have exploded with people going to chase this bird. I was not planing on 
chasing it out of respect for the owners, as Mark says it's their private home. 
Or is it OK to visit the park only? I would love to see a White-wing but I 
don't want to if it's not welcome.

Thank you

Brian Johnson

Englewood CO

 

On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 3:56:07 PM UTC-7 Mark wrote:

COBirders -- Please remember that you NEVER post someone's personal address 
without their approval.  The first clue is that the homeowner posted her 
checklist at the park.  There is nothing wrong with looking for the bird and 
being successful. You just view the bird and post back at the park. You need to 
remember this is someone's home and neighborhood.  Joe Roller was always great 
about getting info from the homeowner and getting the rules out to the 
community. This is just common sense!! 

We have lost several good birding locations because of birders' rude behavior.  
There was a great location up in Summit County that had all the rosies and 
mountain species.  Several birders knew of the location who were approved by 
the homeowner.  It was an amazing experience to start the new year!  He only 
asked that we stay in the street, respect his neighbors, and not post his exact 
location to social media.  Well, someone posted the exact location and it 
became a circus!  Not only did he shut it down to birders,  but he took all his 
feeders down.  I spoke with him after the fact, and he said birders were 
walking into his backyard, parking in the driveway, and upsetting the 
neighborhood.  He was very sad that his great backyard experience was taken 
from him.  In another instance, we had access to an Inca Dove.  The homeowners 
were really sweet and allowed viewing.  They eventually shut it down for their 
privacy and the health of the bird.  She had Joe post that viewing was over.  
Birders continued to disrespect her wishes for days.  I asked a birder why she 
went after the post and she stated "The street is public property so screw 
them."  Yes, the street may be public, but you are looking with binoculars into 
their property!  This type of behavior makes me ashamed of those in our birding 
community who conduct themselves in this manner.  

Mark Chavez 
Lakewood-Green Mtn 
http://jaeger29.smugmug.com/ 

On 12/29/2020 11:34 AM Scott Somershoe mailto:ssome...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

  

  

To all White-winged Crossbill chasers, the owner of the house where the 
crossbill is present DOES NOT WANT ANY VISITORS. They have a family and do not 
want people walking on their street, parking in front of their house, etc.  
This has been made very clear.  Just passing along info.   

  

I would recommend people refrain from swamping this small street and 
neighborhood per request of the homeowner.   

  

Scott Somershoe 

Littleton CO 

 

On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 11:31 AM Arthur Bezuidenhout < odz...@gmail.com 
<mailto:odz...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

I have the bird at 820 Estes St 

  

Bez Bezuidenhout 

Arapahoe County 

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Re: [cobirds] WWCR

[Brian Johnson]

Hi,
I was wondering if things have changed with this. Today my JeffCO need 
alerts have exploded with people going to chase this bird. I was not 
planing on chasing it out of respect for the owners, as Mark says it's 
their private home. Or is it OK to visit the park only? I would love to see 
a White-wing but I don't want to if it's not welcome.
Thank you
Brian Johnson
Englewood CO

On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 3:56:07 PM UTC-7 Mark wrote:

> COBirders -- Please remember that you NEVER post someone's personal 
> address without their approval.  The first clue is that the homeowner 
> posted her checklist at the park.  There is nothing wrong with looking for 
> the bird and being successful. You just view the bird and post back at the 
> park. You need to remember this is someone's home and neighborhood.  Joe 
> Roller was always great about getting info from the homeowner and getting 
> the rules out to the community. This is just common sense!! 
>
> We have lost several good birding locations because of birders' rude 
> behavior.  There was a great location up in Summit County that had all the 
> rosies and mountain species.  Several birders knew of the location who were 
> approved by the homeowner.  It was an amazing experience to start the new 
> year!  He only asked that we stay in the street, respect his neighbors, and 
> not post his exact location to social media.  Well, someone posted the 
> exact location and it became a circus!  Not only did he shut it down to 
> birders,  but he took all his feeders down.  I spoke with him after the 
> fact, and he said birders were walking into his backyard, parking in the 
> driveway, and upsetting the neighborhood.  He was very sad that his great 
> backyard experience was taken from him.  In another instance, we had access 
> to an Inca Dove.  The homeowners were really sweet and allowed viewing.  
> They eventually shut it down for their privacy and the health of the bird.  
> She had Joe post that viewing was over.  Birders continued to disrespect 
> her wishes for days.  I asked a birder why she went after the post and she 
> stated "The street is public property so screw them."  Yes, the street may 
> be public, but you are looking with binoculars into their property!  This 
> type of behavior makes me ashamed of those in our birding community who 
> conduct themselves in this manner.  
>
> Mark Chavez 
> Lakewood-Green Mtn 
> http://jaeger29.smugmug.com/ 
>
> On 12/29/2020 11:34 AM Scott Somershoe  wrote: 
>   
>   
> To all White-winged Crossbill chasers, the owner of the house where the 
> crossbill is present DOES NOT WANT ANY VISITORS. They have a family and do 
> not want people walking on their street, parking in front of their house, 
> etc.  This has been made very clear.  Just passing along info.   
>   
> I would recommend people refrain from swamping this small street and 
> neighborhood per request of the homeowner.   
>   
> Scott Somershoe 
> Littleton CO 
>
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 11:31 AM Arthur Bezuidenhout < odz...@gmail.com> 
> wrote: 
>
> I have the bird at 820 Estes St 
>   
> Bez Bezuidenhout 
> Arapahoe County 
> -- 
> [0,0] 
> |)__) 
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Re: [cobirds] WWCR

[MARK CHAVEZ]

> COBirders -- Please remember that you NEVER post someone's personal 
> address without their approval.  The first clue is that the homeowner posted 
> her checklist at the park.  There is nothing wrong with looking for the bird 
> and being successful. You just view the bird and post back at the park. You 
> need to remember this is someone's home and neighborhood.  Joe Roller was 
> always great about getting info from the homeowner and getting the rules out 
> to the community. This is just common sense!!
> 

> We have lost several good birding locations because of birders' rude 
> behavior.  There was a great location up in Summit County that had all the 
> rosies and mountain species.  Several birders knew of the location who were 
> approved by the homeowner.  It was an amazing experience to start the new 
> year!  He only asked that we stay in the street, respect his neighbors, and 
> not post his exact location to social media.  Well, someone posted the exact 
> location and it became a circus!  Not only did he shut it down to birders,  
> but he took all his feeders down.  I spoke with him after the fact, and he 
> said birders were walking into his backyard, parking in the driveway, and 
> upsetting the neighborhood.  He was very sad that his great backyard 
> experience was taken from him.  In another instance, we had access to an Inca 
> Dove.  The homeowners were really sweet and allowed viewing.  They eventually 
> shut it down for their privacy and the health of the bird.  She had Joe post 
> that viewing was over.  Birders continued to disrespect her wishes for days.  
> I asked a birder why she went after the post and she stated "The street is 
> public property so screw them."  Yes, the street may be public, but you are 
> looking with binoculars into their property!  This type of behavior makes me 
> ashamed of those in our birding community who conduct themselves in this 
> manner. 
> 
Mark Chavez
Lakewood-Green Mtn
http://jaeger29.smugmug.com/

> On 12/29/2020 11:34 AM Scott Somershoe  wrote:
>  
>  
> To all White-winged Crossbill chasers, the owner of the house where the 
> crossbill is present DOES NOT WANT ANY VISITORS. They have a family and do 
> not want people walking on their street, parking in front of their house, 
> etc.  This has been made very clear.  Just passing along info.  
>  
> I would recommend people refrain from swamping this small street and 
> neighborhood per request of the homeowner.  
>  
> Scott Somershoe
> Littleton CO
> 
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 11:31 AM Arthur Bezuidenhout < odzi...@gmail.com 
> mailto:odzi...@gmail.com > wrote:
> 
> > > I have the bird at 820 Estes St
> >  
> > Bez Bezuidenhout
> > Arapahoe County
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Re: [cobirds] WWCR

[Scott Somershoe]

To all White-winged Crossbill chasers, the owner of the house where the
crossbill is present DOES NOT WANT ANY VISITORS. They have a family and do
not want people walking on their street, parking in front of their house,
etc.  This has been made very clear.  Just passing along info.

I would recommend people refrain from swamping this small street and
neighborhood per request of the homeowner.

Scott Somershoe
Littleton CO

On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 11:31 AM Arthur Bezuidenhout 
wrote:

> I have the bird at 820 Estes St
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> Bez Bezuidenhout
> Arapahoe County
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[cobirds] WWCR

[Arthur Bezuidenhout]

I have the bird at 820 Estes St

Bez Bezuidenhout
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