Re: ANN: new open-source window manager for OS X

2013-04-19 Thread Tom von Schwerdtner
Looks interesting.

Any comment on how this relates to Slate (https://github.com/jigish/slate)?
 It seems to be roughly along the same lines (which would be fine, just
asking).

-Tom


On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Steven Degutis wrote:

> Called Windows.app. Source is on github:
> https://github.com/sdegutis/windowsapp
>
> What's particularly neat about it is how you configure it. It looks for a
> dotfile in your home dir, which can either be JavaScript or CoffeeScript.
> In this config file you, bind your hot keys as you want, using a very
> simple API that the app exposes in JS-land.
>
> I managed to get JavaScript scripting working via JSCocoa, and CoffeeScript
> via coffeescript.js and Coffeescript.compile(). Technically I hide the ObjJ
> syntax away, since most people are much more comfortable in pure JS than in
> ObjJ. I was looking into adding ClojureScript support, but I'm not yet sure
> how to avoid the start-up delay when running java. Waiting 5 seconds each
> time you reload your config isn't ideal.
>
> My first choice for scripting was to use MacRuby, but it only works with GC
> apps, and this one uses ARC. I hear they've got ARC in the works, so my
> fingers are crossed for the future. Also, PyObjC is really hard to
> integrate into an app. Ironically enough, when I was googling for how to do
> it, I found an article I wrote about it 3 years ago when I was working at
> BNR.
>
> Also, I created a technique for generating appcasts statically from the
> command line, and hosting the appcast on github, that might be interesting
> to other open source authors who don't want to have any other hosting but
> github. The details are in this build.sh file:
> https://github.com/sdegutis/windowsapp/blob/master/build.sh
>
> My apologies if new-app announcements are off-topic, but I think this one
> is particularly suitable for cocoa-dev because of the technical details.
>
> -Steven
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Re: ANN: new open-source window manager for OS X

2013-04-18 Thread Steven Degutis
Thanks :)

The crux of it is that you can bind global hotkeys to your own JavaScript
(or CoffeeScript) functions, and from your JS (or CS) config file, you have
access to an API[1] that lets you control and inspect all open windows and
apps.

On the wiki I have some examples of how you can use this to make something
kind of like a tiling window manager. One of them[2] mimics the
closed-source app AppGrid[3] that I wrote the other week (which actually
turned out to be a spectacular commercial failure because I don't know how
to market).

Technically the API is ObjC, so it could do anything you can otherwise do
in an app, it's not just limited to letting you move/resize windows. For
example, last night I added the functions `open` and `shell`, and today I
added a binding to my own config[4] that opens Dictionary.app.

[1] https://github.com/sdegutis/windowsapp#api
[2] https://github.com/sdegutis/windowsapp/wiki/AppGrid-config
[3] http://giantrobotsoftware.com/appgrid
[4] https://github.com/sdegutis/home/blob/master/.windowsapp.coffee#L13

-Steven


On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Graham Cox  wrote:

> Fantastic! What does it do?
>
> --Graham
>
>
> On 18/04/2013, at 2:44 AM, Steven Degutis  wrote:
>
> > Called Windows.app. Source is on github:
> > https://github.com/sdegutis/windowsapp
> >
> > What's particularly neat about it is how you configure it. It looks for a
> > dotfile in your home dir, which can either be JavaScript or CoffeeScript.
> > In this config file you, bind your hot keys as you want, using a very
> > simple API that the app exposes in JS-land.
> >
> > I managed to get JavaScript scripting working via JSCocoa, and
> CoffeeScript
> > via coffeescript.js and Coffeescript.compile(). Technically I hide the
> ObjJ
> > syntax away, since most people are much more comfortable in pure JS than
> in
> > ObjJ. I was looking into adding ClojureScript support, but I'm not yet
> sure
> > how to avoid the start-up delay when running java. Waiting 5 seconds each
> > time you reload your config isn't ideal.
> >
> > My first choice for scripting was to use MacRuby, but it only works with
> GC
> > apps, and this one uses ARC. I hear they've got ARC in the works, so my
> > fingers are crossed for the future. Also, PyObjC is really hard to
> > integrate into an app. Ironically enough, when I was googling for how to
> do
> > it, I found an article I wrote about it 3 years ago when I was working at
> > BNR.
> >
> > Also, I created a technique for generating appcasts statically from the
> > command line, and hosting the appcast on github, that might be
> interesting
> > to other open source authors who don't want to have any other hosting but
> > github. The details are in this build.sh file:
> > https://github.com/sdegutis/windowsapp/blob/master/build.sh
> >
> > My apologies if new-app announcements are off-topic, but I think this one
> > is particularly suitable for cocoa-dev because of the technical details.
>
>
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Re: ANN: new open-source window manager for OS X

2013-04-18 Thread Graham Cox
Fantastic! What does it do?

--Graham


On 18/04/2013, at 2:44 AM, Steven Degutis  wrote:

> Called Windows.app. Source is on github:
> https://github.com/sdegutis/windowsapp
> 
> What's particularly neat about it is how you configure it. It looks for a
> dotfile in your home dir, which can either be JavaScript or CoffeeScript.
> In this config file you, bind your hot keys as you want, using a very
> simple API that the app exposes in JS-land.
> 
> I managed to get JavaScript scripting working via JSCocoa, and CoffeeScript
> via coffeescript.js and Coffeescript.compile(). Technically I hide the ObjJ
> syntax away, since most people are much more comfortable in pure JS than in
> ObjJ. I was looking into adding ClojureScript support, but I'm not yet sure
> how to avoid the start-up delay when running java. Waiting 5 seconds each
> time you reload your config isn't ideal.
> 
> My first choice for scripting was to use MacRuby, but it only works with GC
> apps, and this one uses ARC. I hear they've got ARC in the works, so my
> fingers are crossed for the future. Also, PyObjC is really hard to
> integrate into an app. Ironically enough, when I was googling for how to do
> it, I found an article I wrote about it 3 years ago when I was working at
> BNR.
> 
> Also, I created a technique for generating appcasts statically from the
> command line, and hosting the appcast on github, that might be interesting
> to other open source authors who don't want to have any other hosting but
> github. The details are in this build.sh file:
> https://github.com/sdegutis/windowsapp/blob/master/build.sh
> 
> My apologies if new-app announcements are off-topic, but I think this one
> is particularly suitable for cocoa-dev because of the technical details.

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Re: ANN: new open-source window manager for OS X

2013-04-18 Thread Steven Degutis
True, but I'm confident they don't care. :)


On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 1:00 AM, Charles Srstka wrote:

> On Apr 17, 2013, at 11:44 AM, Steven Degutis  wrote:
>
> Called Windows.app.
>
>
> ... I think someone may have used the name "Windows" already...
>
> Charles
>
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Re: ANN: new open-source window manager for OS X

2013-04-17 Thread Charles Srstka
On Apr 17, 2013, at 11:44 AM, Steven Degutis  wrote:

> Called Windows.app.

... I think someone may have used the name "Windows" already...

Charles
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ANN: new open-source window manager for OS X

2013-04-17 Thread Steven Degutis
Called Windows.app. Source is on github:
https://github.com/sdegutis/windowsapp

What's particularly neat about it is how you configure it. It looks for a
dotfile in your home dir, which can either be JavaScript or CoffeeScript.
In this config file you, bind your hot keys as you want, using a very
simple API that the app exposes in JS-land.

I managed to get JavaScript scripting working via JSCocoa, and CoffeeScript
via coffeescript.js and Coffeescript.compile(). Technically I hide the ObjJ
syntax away, since most people are much more comfortable in pure JS than in
ObjJ. I was looking into adding ClojureScript support, but I'm not yet sure
how to avoid the start-up delay when running java. Waiting 5 seconds each
time you reload your config isn't ideal.

My first choice for scripting was to use MacRuby, but it only works with GC
apps, and this one uses ARC. I hear they've got ARC in the works, so my
fingers are crossed for the future. Also, PyObjC is really hard to
integrate into an app. Ironically enough, when I was googling for how to do
it, I found an article I wrote about it 3 years ago when I was working at
BNR.

Also, I created a technique for generating appcasts statically from the
command line, and hosting the appcast on github, that might be interesting
to other open source authors who don't want to have any other hosting but
github. The details are in this build.sh file:
https://github.com/sdegutis/windowsapp/blob/master/build.sh

My apologies if new-app announcements are off-topic, but I think this one
is particularly suitable for cocoa-dev because of the technical details.

-Steven
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