Re: Book Cocoa programming for Mac OS X Third Edition
I recommend Beginning Mac Programming: Develop with Objective-C and Cocoa by Tim Isted. I concur with Cocoa Design Patterns after you learn a bit. I also liked Cocoa and Objective-C: Up and Running by Scott Stevenson. I would also suggest getting a membership from safaribooksonline.com and getting the full library option that way you are not limited to how many books you can read (granted they don't have every book) and you have access to the videos as well. They do have the Programming in Objective-C 2.0 video lessons which I found better than the book but still ridiculously dry. Another note, there is a new 3rd edition of Kochan's book and Hillegass has 2 or 3 more new updated books coming out. -T. On Mar 11, 2011, at 9:52 AM, David Remacle wrote: Hello, I have see on amazon the book Cocoa programming for Mac OS X third Edition of Aaron Hillegass. Is this a good book for beginner ? Which books for objective-C 2.0/Cocoa do you recommend for beginner ? Good day. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/the.blue.pencil.concept%40gmail.com This email sent to the.blue.pencil.conc...@gmail.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Book Cocoa programming for Mac OS X Third Edition
Hello, I have see on amazon the book Cocoa programming for Mac OS X third Edition of Aaron Hillegass. Is this a good book for beginner ? Which books for objective-C 2.0/Cocoa do you recommend for beginner ? Good day. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Book Cocoa programming for Mac OS X Third Edition
On Mar 11, 2011, at 9:52 AM, David Remacle wrote: I have see on amazon the book Cocoa programming for Mac OS X third Edition of Aaron Hillegass. Is this a good book for beginner ? Yes! It's the best book for a beginner learning Cocoa. Which books for objective-C 2.0/Cocoa do you recommend for beginner ? I might also recommend: Programming in Objective-C 2.0 (2nd Edition) [Paperback] Stephen G. Kochan (Author) • ISBN-10: 0321566157 • ISBN-13: 978-0321566157 ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Book Cocoa programming for Mac OS X Third Edition
I concur: Cocoa Programming for Mac OS X (3rd edition) and Programming in Objective-C 2.0 (2nd edition) are the two books I go to the most and recommend for people getting started. Once you've have some experience, then the Apple online documentation is pretty good. In particular, when you look at an Objective-C class description, in the column on the left there is often a document (or several) that describes the broader concepts, how this class relates to others, and provides snippets of code showing how to use the class. I often skim these first and then come back to the class description. Just make sure you are looking at the documentation for the right platform (iOS vs Mac). I also have numerous other books, including Cocoa Recipes for Mac OS X (2nd edition). You can never have too many programming books. One word of warning: the screen shots and detailed description for using Xcode and IB will almost always be at least slightly wrong because Apple is continuously updating their tools. Todd On Mar 11, 2011, at 7:03 AM, Eric Gorr wrote: On Mar 11, 2011, at 9:52 AM, David Remacle wrote: I have see on amazon the book Cocoa programming for Mac OS X third Edition of Aaron Hillegass. Is this a good book for beginner ? Yes! It's the best book for a beginner learning Cocoa. Which books for objective-C 2.0/Cocoa do you recommend for beginner ? I might also recommend: Programming in Objective-C 2.0 (2nd Edition) [Paperback] Stephen G. Kochan (Author) • ISBN-10: 0321566157 • ISBN-13: 978-0321566157 ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Book Cocoa programming for Mac OS X Third Edition
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 8:56 AM, Todd Heberlein todd_heberl...@mac.com wrote: One word of warning: the screen shots and detailed description for using Xcode and IB will almost always be at least slightly wrong In particular, the Hillegass book was written pre-Snow Leopard, and uses at least a couple of deprecated or scheduled-for-deprecation methods. This presents no real problem, however; it just makes you dig into Apple's documentation more carefully (which I personally found to be a helpful learning feature in itself). It is an excellent book. -- Josh Caswell ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Book Cocoa programming for Mac OS X Third Edition
Cocoa Design Patterns is awesome after you get through those. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 11, 2011, at 10:56 AM, Todd Heberlein todd_heberl...@mac.com wrote: I concur: Cocoa Programming for Mac OS X (3rd edition) and Programming in Objective-C 2.0 (2nd edition) are the two books I go to the most and recommend for people getting started. Once you've have some experience, then the Apple online documentation is pretty good. In particular, when you look at an Objective-C class description, in the column on the left there is often a document (or several) that describes the broader concepts, how this class relates to others, and provides snippets of code showing how to use the class. I often skim these first and then come back to the class description. Just make sure you are looking at the documentation for the right platform (iOS vs Mac). I also have numerous other books, including Cocoa Recipes for Mac OS X (2nd edition). You can never have too many programming books. One word of warning: the screen shots and detailed description for using Xcode and IB will almost always be at least slightly wrong because Apple is continuously updating their tools. Todd On Mar 11, 2011, at 7:03 AM, Eric Gorr wrote: On Mar 11, 2011, at 9:52 AM, David Remacle wrote: I have see on amazon the book Cocoa programming for Mac OS X third Edition of Aaron Hillegass. Is this a good book for beginner ? Yes! It's the best book for a beginner learning Cocoa. Which books for objective-C 2.0/Cocoa do you recommend for beginner ? I might also recommend: Programming in Objective-C 2.0 (2nd Edition) [Paperback] Stephen G. Kochan (Author) • ISBN-10: 0321566157 • ISBN-13: 978-0321566157 ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/logancautrell%40ftml.net This email sent to logancautr...@ftml.net ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
