Re: Compatibility of Data iPhone / Mac

2010-05-22 Thread Bleicher Eiko
Thanks,

I'll roll my own encoding, then. I should get much less overhead during normal 
operation then anyway - which could matter in my application.

Eiko

Am 22.05.2010 um 01:41 schrieb Kyle Sluder:

> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Eiko Bleicher  wrote:
>> When transferring data between Mac and iPhone/iPad, serializing via 
>> NSKeysedArchiver seems simple and easy. Wrapping up some "trivial" Objects 
>> like NSData, NSDictionary, NSNumber, NSString seems to work.
>> 
>> But the question is: is it considered safe to transfer data like that? How 
>> likely is this scenario going to fail? I imagine how a simple binary change 
>> makes everything crash; but given that there might be tons of Applications 
>> that store data in a similar fashion, this probably is just not going to 
>> happen.
> 
> This isn't really a safe thing to do. If you want to archive simple
> stuff like strings, arrays, and dictionaries, use
> NSPropertyListSerialization. Otherwise, write a custom serialization
> scheme. Archiving (keyed or not) is very fragile, if for no other
> reason than it relies on the existence of classes at unarchive time
> that existed at archive time.
> 
>> So I would need to worry about changes on one platform that generates 
>> compatibilty problems on the other. Have there ever been issues with that?
> 
> Not to my knowledge, but I don't see any versioning mechanism so it's
> quite possible there might be in the future.
> 
>> It wouldn't be a big deal if I needed to package my data on my own, but this 
>> also opens room for bugs
> 
> Better to do the right thing in this case.
> 
> --Kyle Sluder

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Re: Compatibility of Data iPhone / Mac

2010-05-21 Thread Kyle Sluder
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Eiko Bleicher  wrote:
> When transferring data between Mac and iPhone/iPad, serializing via 
> NSKeysedArchiver seems simple and easy. Wrapping up some "trivial" Objects 
> like NSData, NSDictionary, NSNumber, NSString seems to work.
>
> But the question is: is it considered safe to transfer data like that? How 
> likely is this scenario going to fail? I imagine how a simple binary change 
> makes everything crash; but given that there might be tons of Applications 
> that store data in a similar fashion, this probably is just not going to 
> happen.

This isn't really a safe thing to do. If you want to archive simple
stuff like strings, arrays, and dictionaries, use
NSPropertyListSerialization. Otherwise, write a custom serialization
scheme. Archiving (keyed or not) is very fragile, if for no other
reason than it relies on the existence of classes at unarchive time
that existed at archive time.

> So I would need to worry about changes on one platform that generates 
> compatibilty problems on the other. Have there ever been issues with that?

Not to my knowledge, but I don't see any versioning mechanism so it's
quite possible there might be in the future.

> It wouldn't be a big deal if I needed to package my data on my own, but this 
> also opens room for bugs

Better to do the right thing in this case.

--Kyle Sluder
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Compatibility of Data iPhone / Mac

2010-05-21 Thread Eiko Bleicher
When transferring data between Mac and iPhone/iPad, serializing via 
NSKeysedArchiver seems simple and easy. Wrapping up some "trivial" Objects like 
NSData, NSDictionary, NSNumber, NSString seems to work.

But the question is: is it considered safe to transfer data like that? How 
likely is this scenario going to fail? I imagine how a simple binary change 
makes everything crash; but given that there might be tons of Applications that 
store data in a similar fashion, this probably is just not going to happen.

So I would need to worry about changes on one platform that generates 
compatibilty problems on the other. Have there ever been issues with that? 

It wouldn't be a big deal if I needed to package my data on my own, but this 
also opens room for bugs

Eiko___

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