Re: Core Data book for OSX

2012-07-15 Thread Chuck Soper
Koen,

CoreData for iOS and Mac are mostly the same, but the biggest difference
is that iOS doesn't support bindings. Bindings are important and for that
reason I don't think that an iOS Core Data book would be sufficient for
you. 


I recommend Cocoa Programming: A Quick-Start Guide for Developers by
Daniel H Steinberg. The book is aimed at experienced programmers who are
new to Cocoa. It only supports Xcode 3, but I don't think that's a
problem. Specifically, I would read chapters 19-Key Value Coding, 20-Key
Value Observing, 21-Cocoa Bindings and 22-Core Data. Supplement this with
reading Apple documentation which is referred to in the book.

 http://pragprog.com/book/dscpq/cocoa-programming

The Pragmatic web site says that it's out of print, but I found it on
Amazon:
 http://www.amazon.com/Cocoa-Programming-Quick-Start-Developers-Programmers
/dp/1934356301/



Also, stackoverflow.com can be a good resource:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/core-data

And I've found Tim Isted's blog to be useful. I was just reviewing this
post on Multiple Windows with Core Data. It's from July, 2008 so parts of
it may be out of date.
http://www.timisted.net/blog/archive/multiple-windows-with-core-data/

Chuck


On 7/14/12 5:06 AM, Koen van der Drift koenvanderdr...@gmail.com wrote:

I really want to learn more about CoreData on the Mac and am looking to
get a book, besides the Apple docs.  I already get the basics, but there
are still many things that make me scratch my head.

Often recommended is the book by Marcus Zarra, but this is out of print,
and I wouldn't be surprised if they are working on an update, but no idea
when that's going to be on the market. Is it still relevant, or already
outdated when using (M)Lion?  I can find a copy through Abebooks if
needed.

Or am I better off getting a more recent book about CoreData for iOS
(there are several on the market, e.g. Imsted  Harrington)? I would
guess that in the core (no pun) it is the same for OSX and iOS, so I may
go that route.  Or is a book about CoreData on iOS completely useless
when developing for OSX?

Thanks for any input,

- Koen.



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Core Data book for OSX

2012-07-14 Thread Koen van der Drift
I really want to learn more about CoreData on the Mac and am looking to get a 
book, besides the Apple docs.  I already get the basics, but there are still 
many things that make me scratch my head. 

Often recommended is the book by Marcus Zarra, but this is out of print, and I 
wouldn't be surprised if they are working on an update, but no idea when that's 
going to be on the market. Is it still relevant, or already outdated when using 
(M)Lion?  I can find a copy through Abebooks if needed.

Or am I better off getting a more recent book about CoreData for iOS (there are 
several on the market, e.g. Imsted  Harrington)? I would guess that in the 
core (no pun) it is the same for OSX and iOS, so I may go that route.  Or is a 
book about CoreData on iOS completely useless when developing for OSX?

Thanks for any input,

- Koen.



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Re: Core Data book for OSX

2012-07-14 Thread Conrad Shultz
While not a book, I heartily recommend the Core Data video training course from 
ideveloper.tv. Marcus Zarra is the presenter and there was a follow-up 
supplement for Lion. 

(Sent from my iPhone.)

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Conrad Shultz

On Jul 14, 2012, at 5:06, Koen van der Drift koenvanderdr...@gmail.com wrote:

 I really want to learn more about CoreData on the Mac and am looking to get a 
 book, besides the Apple docs.  I already get the basics, but there are still 
 many things that make me scratch my head. 
 
 Often recommended is the book by Marcus Zarra, but this is out of print, and 
 I wouldn't be surprised if they are working on an update, but no idea when 
 that's going to be on the market. Is it still relevant, or already outdated 
 when using (M)Lion?  I can find a copy through Abebooks if needed.
 
 Or am I better off getting a more recent book about CoreData for iOS (there 
 are several on the market, e.g. Imsted  Harrington)? I would guess that in 
 the core (no pun) it is the same for OSX and iOS, so I may go that route.  Or 
 is a book about CoreData on iOS completely useless when developing for OSX?
 
 Thanks for any input,
 
 - Koen.
 
 
 
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Re: Core Data book for OSX

2012-07-14 Thread Koen van der Drift

On Jul 14, 2012, at 1:56 PM, Conrad Shultz wrote:

 While not a book, I heartily recommend the Core Data video training course 
 from ideveloper.tv. Marcus Zarra is the presenter and there was a follow-up 
 supplement for Lion. 

Unfortunately the original course has been discontinued.  I had a look at the 
sample video for the Lion supplement, and am not sure yet if I like the format 
of the video watching two guys chatting on a couch. I think I prefer reading to 
learn something new.

But thanks for the link,

- Koen.




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