De-Mystifying NSCell
Hi all, I've noticed recently a few people have posted to the list in a state of uncertainty regarding NSCell, particularly in the context of NSTableView. I was in much the same boat when I started out with Cocoa; it takes a few runs through it before the scheme starts to make sense. I put together a short video to try to explain the rationale and mechanisms of NSCell: http://www.cs.loyola.edu/~ksluder/NSCell.mov . If you're confused about why NSCell exists and how it's used inside NSTableView, I hope that my video is able to shine a bit of light. If not, I hope I don't confuse you even more. If you like or dislike the video, please do let me know. Thanks, --Kyle Sluder ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: De-Mystifying NSCell
I put together a short video to try to explain the rationale and mechanisms of NSCell: http://www.cs.loyola.edu/~ksluder/NSCell.mov . If you're confused about why NSCell exists and how it's used inside NSTableView, I hope that my video is able to shine a bit of light. That was fantastic!! I really appreciated it. Todd ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: De-Mystifying NSCell
VERY well done and informative. Thanks! Ken On Mar 23, 2009, at 3:10 AM, Kyle Sluder wrote: Hi all, I've noticed recently a few people have posted to the list in a state of uncertainty regarding NSCell, particularly in the context of NSTableView. I was in much the same boat when I started out with Cocoa; it takes a few runs through it before the scheme starts to make sense. I put together a short video to try to explain the rationale and mechanisms of NSCell: http://www.cs.loyola.edu/~ksluder/NSCell.mov . If you're confused about why NSCell exists and how it's used inside NSTableView, I hope that my video is able to shine a bit of light. If not, I hope I don't confuse you even more. If you like or dislike the video, please do let me know. Thanks, --Kyle Sluder -- Ken Worley Software Engineer, Tiberius, Inc. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: De-Mystifying NSCell
That is really excellent. (must have taken a long time to make) I wish there were more videos like that. I'd learn a lot faster. David On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 7:10 PM, Kyle Sluder wrote: > Hi all, > > I've noticed recently a few people have posted to the list in a state > of uncertainty regarding NSCell, particularly in the context of > NSTableView. I was in much the same boat when I started out with > Cocoa; it takes a few runs through it before the scheme starts to make > sense. > > I put together a short video to try to explain the rationale and > mechanisms of NSCell: http://www.cs.loyola.edu/~ksluder/NSCell.mov . > If you're confused about why NSCell exists and how it's used inside > NSTableView, I hope that my video is able to shine a bit of light. > > If not, I hope I don't confuse you even more. If you like or dislike > the video, please do let me know. > > Thanks, > --Kyle Sluder > ___ > > Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) > > Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. > Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com > > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/david%40yamartino.com > > This email sent to da...@yamartino.com > ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: De-Mystifying NSCell
Thanks for this, I've been doing a lot of NSCell work recently. I'll definitely be watching it when I get home! ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: De-Mystifying NSCell
As many of you have pointed out, the video became unavailable sometime last night. Our server admin has fixed the problem and the video is once again accessible. Sorry for the inconvenience. --Kyle Sluder ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: De-Mystifying NSCell
Thank you for creating this great video. If you are looking for another subject, I would suggest a video on subclassing NSCell. The list constantly has questions regarding subclassing NSCell for NSTableViews. Todd Freese On Mar 24, 2009, at 1:56 PM, Kyle Sluder wrote: As many of you have pointed out, the video became unavailable sometime last night. Our server admin has fixed the problem and the video is once again accessible. Sorry for the inconvenience. --Kyle Sluder ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/applecocoalist%40filmworkers.com This email sent to applecocoal...@filmworkers.com __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: De-Mystifying NSCell
I should mention that it is very beneficial to log bug requests at bugreporter.apple.com requesting clarification on any point with NSTableView/NSCell that is difficult to figure out from the existing documentation. Thank you for creating this great video. If you are looking for another subject, I would suggest a video on subclassing NSCell. The list constantly has questions regarding subclassing NSCell for NSTableViews. Do you have something in particular that you need help about subclassing? There must be something specific that you have had trouble with which we can clarify. corbin ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: De-Mystifying NSCell
Corbin: On Mar 24, 2009, at 6:40 PM, Corbin Dunn wrote: I should mention that it is very beneficial to log bug requests at bugreporter.apple.com requesting clarification on any point with NSTableView/NSCell that is difficult to figure out from the existing documentation. Is this the preferred documentation feedback method or is it better to use the feedback forms at the bottom of the documentation pages? Or do they both go to the same place? Just curious. -- I.S. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: De-Mystifying NSCell
Good question! On Mar 24, 2009, at 3:46 PM, I. Savant wrote: Corbin: On Mar 24, 2009, at 6:40 PM, Corbin Dunn wrote: I should mention that it is very beneficial to log bug requests at bugreporter.apple.com requesting clarification on any point with NSTableView/NSCell that is difficult to figure out from the existing documentation. Is this the preferred documentation feedback method or is it better to use the feedback forms at the bottom of the documentation pages? Or do they both go to the same place? I think you are correct that the best way is to use the feedback forms. I'm verifying that is correct, and if I hear otherwise I'll post back. Bugreports are definitely okay too, but the documentation feedback may get routed to the right place faster. corbin ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: De-Mystifying NSCell
Kyle, Thank you for an awesome video. Paul Franz Ken Worley wrote: VERY well done and informative. Thanks! Ken On Mar 23, 2009, at 3:10 AM, Kyle Sluder wrote: Hi all, I've noticed recently a few people have posted to the list in a state of uncertainty regarding NSCell, particularly in the context of NSTableView. I was in much the same boat when I started out with Cocoa; it takes a few runs through it before the scheme starts to make sense. I put together a short video to try to explain the rationale and mechanisms of NSCell: http://www.cs.loyola.edu/~ksluder/NSCell.mov . If you're confused about why NSCell exists and how it's used inside NSTableView, I hope that my video is able to shine a bit of light. If not, I hope I don't confuse you even more. If you like or dislike the video, please do let me know. Thanks, --Kyle Sluder ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
filing documentation bugs -- Re: De-Mystifying NSCell
So, as Corbin and I.S. mention, there are two ways to submit bugs on documentation. - bugreporter.apple.com - the feedback button on documentation pages. Both will get the bugs to the proper people. There are situations when one option is better than another. Small bugs that qualify as typos (spelling errors, duplicated words, its vs it's, etc.) can easily be reported using the feedback method. In fact, I'd urge you to use that mechanism for those types of reports. Typos will get fixed faster this way. But if you're asking for a significant clarification of something, it can be __very__ useful to actually submit a bug using bugreporter.aple.com. That allows the Developer Publications engineers (myself and my cohorts) to contact you if necessary for clarification. You'll also get a notification when the documentation gets fixed, so you can verify that it now covers what you thought it didn't. So, both are valid. Feedback button is definitely one way. bugreporter has the ability to be two way (despite the naysayers) Just one further note. All the reference and conceptual documentation for the frameworks and technologies are written in house by Developer Publications engineers. We have access to the source for investigation and, even better, engineers like Corbin who know it inside and out to back us up. On 24-Mar-09, at 6:54 PM, Corbin Dunn wrote: Good question! On Mar 24, 2009, at 3:46 PM, I. Savant wrote: Corbin: On Mar 24, 2009, at 6:40 PM, Corbin Dunn wrote: I should mention that it is very beneficial to log bug requests at bugreporter.apple.com requesting clarification on any point with NSTableView/NSCell that is difficult to figure out from the existing documentation. Is this the preferred documentation feedback method or is it better to use the feedback forms at the bottom of the documentation pages? Or do they both go to the same place? I think you are correct that the best way is to use the feedback forms. I'm verifying that is correct, and if I hear otherwise I'll post back. Bugreports are definitely okay too, but the documentation feedback may get routed to the right place faster. corbin ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
