Re: Finder's sidebar background color

[Benjamin Dobson]

Well, it is kind of a source list (a list of command descriptions).  
It is hard to explain in words, please take a look at the link to  
OnMyCommand I've posted earlier.


However, I do think it really fits its purpose :D


I agree, but I don't understand why a real source list doesn't do what  
you want.

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Re: Finder's sidebar background color

[Knut Lorenzen]

Am 15.11.2008 um 23:30 schrieb Kyle Sluder:

On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Knut Lorenzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:
I am afraid I was unclear, mimicing Finder (and it's ilk) only  
color-wise.


I'm still a bit confused... where will you be using this color?  This
is the color for source lists.  You should have a *very* good reason
for using it anywhere else (and thus cause your app to function
counter to user expectations).



Well, it is kind of a source list (a list of command descriptions). It  
is hard to explain in words, please take a look at the link to  
OnMyCommand I've posted earlier.


However, I do think it really fits its purpose :D

Cheers,

Knut



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Re: Finder's sidebar background color

[Kyle Sluder]

On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Knut Lorenzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am afraid I was unclear, mimicing Finder (and it's ilk) only color-wise.

I'm still a bit confused... where will you be using this color?  This
is the color for source lists.  You should have a *very* good reason
for using it anywhere else (and thus cause your app to function
counter to user expectations).

--Kyle Sluder
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Re: Finder's sidebar background color

[Knut Lorenzen]

Am 15.11.2008 um 22:45 schrieb Andrew Merenbach:


Just out of curiosity: if you're trying to mimic the Finder, iTunes,
etc., what would you be using besides an outline view?  A normal table
view wouldn't allow you to have groupings of subitems that are
viewable with disclosure triangles.



Hello again, Andrew!

I am afraid I was unclear, mimicing Finder (and it's ilk) only color- 
wise.


If you are really curious, check out OnMyCommand (). It is free and a very nifty piece of software for the Mac.


Cheers,

Knut






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Re: Finder's sidebar background color

[Andrew Merenbach]

On Nov 15, 2008, at 1:41 PM, Knut Lorenzen wrote:



Am 15.11.2008 um 22:10 schrieb Markus Spoettl:


On Nov 15, 2008, at 12:58 PM, Knut Lorenzen wrote:

is there a way to obtain the background color of Finder's sidebar
programmatically?


Yes, if you have an NSOutlineView instance in SourceList display mode
you can just use its -backgroundColor is to get the correct color.
Refreshing whatever you draw whenever your window receives a
NSWindowDidBecomeMainNotification or  
NSWindowDidResignMainNotification

notification will keep it in sync with the outline view background
when the window becomes active and inactive.


Markus,

thanks, that looks promising.

There is no NSOutlineView in my App right now, but it sounds as it  
might be possible to use an invisible NSOutlineView-dummy just in  
order to get the colors from it.


Cheers,

Knut


Hi, Knut,

Just out of curiosity: if you're trying to mimic the Finder, iTunes,  
etc., what would you be using besides an outline view?  A normal table  
view wouldn't allow you to have groupings of subitems that are  
viewable with disclosure triangles.


Best,
Andrew


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Re: Finder's sidebar background color

[Knut Lorenzen]

Am 15.11.2008 um 22:10 schrieb Markus Spoettl:


On Nov 15, 2008, at 12:58 PM, Knut Lorenzen wrote:

is there a way to obtain the background color of Finder's sidebar
programmatically?


Yes, if you have an NSOutlineView instance in SourceList display mode
you can just use its -backgroundColor is to get the correct color.
Refreshing whatever you draw whenever your window receives a
NSWindowDidBecomeMainNotification or NSWindowDidResignMainNotification
notification will keep it in sync with the outline view background
when the window becomes active and inactive.


Markus,

thanks, that looks promising.

There is no NSOutlineView in my App right now, but it sounds as it  
might be possible to use an invisible NSOutlineView-dummy just in  
order to get the colors from it.


Cheers,

Knut





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Re: Finder's sidebar background color

[Knut Lorenzen]

Am 15.11.2008 um 22:04 schrieb Kyle Sluder:

On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 3:58 PM, Knut Lorenzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

is there a way to obtain the background color of Finder's sidebar
programmatically?


If you're trying to create a sidebar, set its selection highlight
style to NSTableViewSelectionHighlightStyleSourceList.


Kyle,

thanks for the quick reply, but I am not trying to do so.


If you're not trying to create a sidebar, why do you need this color?


My App (OMCEdit, see ) mimics the look of Finder (and Mail, iTunes,...), hence I need  
these colors in order to display an active/inactive state.


Cheers,

Knut



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Re: Finder's sidebar background color

[Markus Spoettl]

On Nov 15, 2008, at 12:58 PM, Knut Lorenzen wrote:
is there a way to obtain the background color of Finder's sidebar  
programmatically?


Yes, if you have an NSOutlineView instance in SourceList display mode  
you can just use its -backgroundColor is to get the correct color.  
Refreshing whatever you draw whenever your window receives a  
NSWindowDidBecomeMainNotification or NSWindowDidResignMainNotification  
notification will keep it in sync with the outline view background  
when the window becomes active and inactive.


Regards
Markus
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Re: Finder's sidebar background color

[Kyle Sluder]

On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 3:58 PM, Knut Lorenzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> is there a way to obtain the background color of Finder's sidebar
> programmatically?

If you're trying to create a sidebar, set its selection highlight
style to NSTableViewSelectionHighlightStyleSourceList.  If you're not
trying to create a sidebar, why do you need this color?  If you try to
extract it from an appropriately-configured NSTableView (or
NSOutlineView) is some sort of weird, funky NSColor subclass that
changes when the application gains/loses active status.

--Kyle Sluder
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Finder's sidebar background color

[Knut Lorenzen]

Hi list,

is there a way to obtain the background color of Finder's sidebar  
programmatically? In active (i.e. frontmost) and inactive state? I've  
searched the documentation and looked up NSColorList to no avail.


Of course it it rather easy to "steal" the colors from Finder and set  
them to
[NSColor colorWithDeviceRed: 214/256.0 green: 221/256.0 blue:  
229/256.0 alpha: 1.0 ] and
[NSColor colorWithDeviceRed: 232/256.0 green: 232/256.0 blue:  
232/256.0 alpha: 1.0 ] respectively,

but I'd rather not hard-wire this.

Cheers,

Knut

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