Re: NSImage drawing on 10.5 issue
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Graham Cox graham@bigpond.com wrote: I have an NSImage which I generate by specifically creating a NSPDFImageRep and adding that to an empty image. Later this same image rep is used to write the image as a PDF file to disk. An interface displays these images, either loaded from disk or made on the fly as above. The image's native size is quite small and they are often scaled up when drawn, but since they're PDFs that should work OK. On 10.6, these render really nicely and I always get crisp drawing. On 10.5 however, they render quite fuzzily, which I'd prefer they didn't. Obviously the problem is the bitmap caching that NSImage does, and which must have changed for PDF images in 10.6. I set the caching of the image to NSImageCacheBySize, which gives me a useful drawing speed-up compared with NSImageCacheNever, but the cached bitmaps are fuzzy on 10.5, presumably because they're being scaled up and the bitmaps cached the original size, not the drawn size. Is there anything I can do about this? I set the context's image interpolation quality to high when these are drawn. Hi Graham, I'm a lot more familiar with the post-10.6 code than the 10.5 and before code, but I think you probably need to either turn off the cache or essentially manage your own cache by replacing the image when the scaling changes. Given that this problem is fixed in newer OSes, I would be tempted to just turn off the cache in 10.5. -Ken Cocoa Frameworks --Graham ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/kenferry%40gmail.com This email sent to kenfe...@gmail.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: NSImage drawing on 10.5 issue
On 30/06/2010, at 6:36 PM, Ken Ferry wrote: On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Graham Cox graham@bigpond.com wrote: I have an NSImage which I generate by specifically creating a NSPDFImageRep and adding that to an empty image. Later this same image rep is used to write the image as a PDF file to disk. An interface displays these images, either loaded from disk or made on the fly as above. The image's native size is quite small and they are often scaled up when drawn, but since they're PDFs that should work OK. On 10.6, these render really nicely and I always get crisp drawing. On 10.5 however, they render quite fuzzily, which I'd prefer they didn't. Obviously the problem is the bitmap caching that NSImage does, and which must have changed for PDF images in 10.6. I set the caching of the image to NSImageCacheBySize, which gives me a useful drawing speed-up compared with NSImageCacheNever, but the cached bitmaps are fuzzy on 10.5, presumably because they're being scaled up and the bitmaps cached the original size, not the drawn size. Is there anything I can do about this? I set the context's image interpolation quality to high when these are drawn. Hi Graham, I'm a lot more familiar with the post-10.6 code than the 10.5 and before code, but I think you probably need to either turn off the cache or essentially manage your own cache by replacing the image when the scaling changes. Given that this problem is fixed in newer OSes, I would be tempted to just turn off the cache in 10.5. Hi Ken, thanks for the suggestion. I've tried that, but the results are strange - I'm not sure I really understand what's going on. When I render these icons, I do so in a custom cell which can either operate using NSImageScaleProportionallyDown, or NSImageScaleProportionallyUpOrDown. The user is able to switch between these to show icons either at actual size (or smaller), or scaled up to fill the cell. Whichever one is displayed first, it seems to fix the resolution of the icon at that size forever after, even though caching is supposedly off and the cache has been cleared (-recache). So it's still caching the PDF to a bitmap it seems, at least on 10.5 (As I said on 10.6 I have none of these issues). Do I need to manipulate the cache setting for the PDF image rep itself? I thought that whatever you set NSImage to do applied to all its reps, no? The docs say that NSPDFImageRep sets NSImageCacheAlways by default, so does passing 'never' to its containing image actually change this? The cell drawing code is clean, as far as I can see (does nothing but draw the image, it doesn't change the image's state in any way), and loading the icon is little more than doing [NSImage imageWithContentsOfFile:] followed by setting the cache to NSImageCacheNever and calling -recache. Mystified.. --Graham ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: NSImage drawing on 10.5 issue
On 30/06/2010, at 10:22 PM, Graham Cox wrote: Do I need to manipulate the cache setting for the PDF image rep itself? The answer must be 'no', since there's no API to do so... --Graham ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: NSImage drawing on 10.5 issue [SOLVED]
On 30/06/2010, at 10:22 PM, Graham Cox wrote: Given that this problem is fixed in newer OSes, I would be tempted to just turn off the cache in 10.5. Hi Ken, thanks for the suggestion. I've tried that, but the results are strange - I'm not sure I really understand what's going on. OK, I found the answer (turn off caching, as you suggested ;) The problem was the branch that was supposed to do this on 10.5 wasn't being taken due to a faulty test for the appkit version. Fixed that and now all is well (with slightly slower drawing, but I can live with it). thanks again, Graham___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
NSImage drawing on 10.5 issue
I have an NSImage which I generate by specifically creating a NSPDFImageRep and adding that to an empty image. Later this same image rep is used to write the image as a PDF file to disk. An interface displays these images, either loaded from disk or made on the fly as above. The image's native size is quite small and they are often scaled up when drawn, but since they're PDFs that should work OK. On 10.6, these render really nicely and I always get crisp drawing. On 10.5 however, they render quite fuzzily, which I'd prefer they didn't. Obviously the problem is the bitmap caching that NSImage does, and which must have changed for PDF images in 10.6. I set the caching of the image to NSImageCacheBySize, which gives me a useful drawing speed-up compared with NSImageCacheNever, but the cached bitmaps are fuzzy on 10.5, presumably because they're being scaled up and the bitmaps cached the original size, not the drawn size. Is there anything I can do about this? I set the context's image interpolation quality to high when these are drawn. --Graham ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
