Re: NSTableView with reversed rows?
Op 2 okt 2014, om 23:13 heeft Luc Van Bogaert het volgende geschreven: > That's not exactly what I meant, but it might be part of a solution. > > I want the table to populate 'from the bottom to the top', so that the free > space in the scrollview (if there is any) is at the top, above the top row, > instead of below the bottom table row. > > I hope I have expressed more clear what I 'm looking for. > -- > Luc Van Bogaert Override -[NSScrollView tile], call super and move the document view to the bottom if there is space left? --Willeke ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: NSTableView with reversed rows?
On 3 Oct 2014, at 07:25, Luc Van Bogaert wrote: > Sure, the table will display 'layer' objects that can be stacked onto each > other. So the first layer should be displaced at the bottom of the stack, the > second layer on top of the first, and so on... So in fact, I would like to > have a table that represents a stack of objects that 'grows' upwards. > Another thought. Use an NSStackView (if on 10.9) and add discrete views to the bottom gravity in inverse order. You can embed an NSStackView in a NSScrollView - https://github.com/mugginsoft/TSStackView/blob/master/TSStackView.m#L452 J ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: NSTableView with reversed rows?
On 3 Oct 2014, at 4:25 pm, Luc Van Bogaert wrote: > Sure, the table will display 'layer' objects that can be stacked onto each > other. So the first layer should be displaced at the bottom of the stack, the > second layer on top of the first, and so on... So in fact, I would like to > have a table that represents a stack of objects that 'grows' upwards. All apps I've seen that show layers still start at the top, even if the lowest one represents the bottom (or rear-most) layer. Adding a new layer on top of the stack inserts a row at the top and all the rest move down. Tables are after all only a 'map' of your layers, as if someone had written down a list of them on paper. I've seen a more literal alternative that shows an actual stack of images layered in 3D with the 'current' layer exposed more fully and the remainder more edge-on (hard to describe but easy as a visual metaphor when you see it). Think a sort of vertical version of 'Cover Flow'. --Graham ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: NSTableView with reversed rows?
Sure, the table will display 'layer' objects that can be stacked onto each other. So the first layer should be displaced at the bottom of the stack, the second layer on top of the first, and so on... So in fact, I would like to have a table that represents a stack of objects that 'grows' upwards. -- Luc Van Bogaert DotSketcher - www.rixhon.be > Op 03 Oct 2014 om 03:15 heeft Graham Cox het > volgende geschreven: > > >> On 3 Oct 2014, at 7:13 am, Luc Van Bogaert wrote: >> >> I want the table to populate 'from the bottom to the top', so that the free >> space in the scrollview (if there is any) is at the top, above the top row, >> instead of below the bottom table row. > > > May I ask why? Users are likely to be confused by an upside-down table, since > it's very rare to find such a thing, even outside of software. > > --Graham > > ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: NSTableView with reversed rows?
On 3 Oct 2014, at 7:13 am, Luc Van Bogaert wrote: > I want the table to populate 'from the bottom to the top', so that the free > space in the scrollview (if there is any) is at the top, above the top row, > instead of below the bottom table row. May I ask why? Users are likely to be confused by an upside-down table, since it's very rare to find such a thing, even outside of software. --Graham ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: NSTableView with reversed rows?
Why not enforce a minimum row count that accounts for the height of the table. Then, have your data source provide dummy rows for the ones at the top, when the actual count is less than the enforced count. You can have a special table cell for the dummy rows, or just hide all the content that would be in a regular cell. On Oct 2, 2014, at 14:13 , Luc Van Bogaert wrote: > I want the table to populate 'from the bottom to the top', so that the free > space in the scrollview (if there is any) is at the top, above the top row, > instead of below the bottom table row. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: NSTableView with reversed rows?
That's not exactly what I meant, but it might be part of a solution. I want the table to populate 'from the bottom to the top', so that the free space in the scrollview (if there is any) is at the top, above the top row, instead of below the bottom table row. I hope I have expressed more clear what I 'm looking for. -- Luc Van Bogaert > Op 02 Oct 2014 om 23:06 heeft Jonathan Hull het volgende > geschreven: > > Have you considered just inverting the data source? > > Thanks, > Jon > > >> On Oct 2, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Luc Van Bogaert wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I would like to implement a table (in a scrollview) where the first row >> displays at the bottom instead of at the top, the second row above the first >> and so on. How would I go about to accomplish this? >> I've tried overriding 'isFlipped' in a subclass of the scrollview and the >> tableview but that didn't seem to make any difference. I didn't think it >> would be that easy anyway, but I have no idea where to start... >> >> Thanks, >> -- >> Luc Van Bogaert >> >> ___ >> >> Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) >> >> Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. >> Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com >> >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/jhull%40gbis.com >> >> This email sent to jh...@gbis.com > ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: NSTableView with reversed rows?
Have you considered just inverting the data source? Thanks, Jon On Oct 2, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Luc Van Bogaert wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to implement a table (in a scrollview) where the first row > displays at the bottom instead of at the top, the second row above the first > and so on. How would I go about to accomplish this? > I've tried overriding 'isFlipped' in a subclass of the scrollview and the > tableview but that didn't seem to make any difference. I didn't think it > would be that easy anyway, but I have no idea where to start... > > Thanks, > -- > Luc Van Bogaert > > ___ > > Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) > > Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. > Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com > > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/jhull%40gbis.com > > This email sent to jh...@gbis.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: NSTableView with reversed rows?
On 2 Oct 2014, at 20:45, Luc Van Bogaert wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to implement a table (in a scrollview) where the first row > displays at the bottom instead of at the top, the second row above the first > and so on. How would I go about to accomplish this? > I've tried overriding 'isFlipped' in a subclass of the scrollview and the > tableview but that didn't seem to make any difference. I didn't think it > would be that easy anyway, but I have no idea where to start... I would try creating a vertical container NSView (Or an NSStackView for that matter) that contains two vertical subviews: 1. The first view is a blank placeholder constrained to be the same width and (height - NSTableView rowheight) as the NSScrollView content view. This forces the table view down. 2. An NSTableView instance bound to array of data items in reverse order via an NSArrayController. When adding items to the NSArrayController call - (void)insertObject:(id)object atArrangedObjectIndex:(NSUInteger)index with a zero index. You will also have to figure out how to configure the vertical container within the NSScrollView. This sort of thing. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4599747/programmatically-creating-an-nstableview-trouble-getting-the-nsheaderview-to-sh It might get you started. J ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
NSTableView with reversed rows?
Hi, I would like to implement a table (in a scrollview) where the first row displays at the bottom instead of at the top, the second row above the first and so on. How would I go about to accomplish this? I've tried overriding 'isFlipped' in a subclass of the scrollview and the tableview but that didn't seem to make any difference. I didn't think it would be that easy anyway, but I have no idea where to start... Thanks, -- Luc Van Bogaert smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
