Re: OS X Game Programming
Wow. What a fantastic collection of resources for me to digest. Thank you all so much. I'm very grateful. On 7 Apr 2010, at 21:52, Raffael Cavallaro wrote: On Apr 7, 2010, at 3:58 PM, Jens Alfke wrote: On Apr 7, 2010, at 11:08 AM, Raffael Cavallaro wrote: At the top of the page it says: Clone this repository (size: 959.4 KB): HTTPS / SSH $ hg clone http://bitbucket.org/snej/geekgameboard/; This means you need mercurial: No you don't — you can just click the get source button at the top right and download as zip or tar. Sorry about the misinformation - I only saw the hg clone line up top, so that's how I got the source. warmest regards, Ralph Raffael Cavallaro raffaelcavall...@me.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/45rpmlists%40googlemail.com This email sent to 45rpmli...@googlemail.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
OS X Game Programming
I've never programmed games before, although I've got a fair bit of useful OS X utility software under my belt. I've now had a few ideas that I'd like to implement - and I'm stuck at almost the first hurdle. I've managed to create an OpenGL view (by way of experimentation) and chuck a few graphics into it (triangles, circles (well, the closest OpenGL can get to a circle anyway!) and so forth). But I can't work out how to get that OpenGL view to accept keystrokes from my event loop. When it comes to tile based games I'm at a complete loss. Obviously, there are various resources out there (SDL, Blitz etc), but I'd rather not use those because I want to understand the ins and outs of my engine. I've googled and come up with plenty of resources for Windows game programming - but not so many for the Mac. In fact, the only book that approaches what I'm after (with friendly examples) is Pangea Software’s Ultimate Game Programming Guide for Mac OS X - but that's rather out of date. What I really want is something like the excellent guides written by luminaries like Kochan or Hillegass, but focussed on game programming for OS X. Does anyone know if such a guide exists? Failing that, is anyone able to suggest a noddy guide to programming games that I might be able to find on the 'net (because so far my efforts have been rather below par). Sorry to post such a non-technical question - I didn't know who else to ask.___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: OS X Game Programming
Most basics OpenGL sample codes on ADC handle keyboard events. For instance, first Google result for Cocoa OpenGL http://developer.apple.com/mac/library/samplecode/CocoaGL/Introduction/Intro.html Le 7 avr. 2010 à 09:34, Pascal Harris a écrit : I've never programmed games before, although I've got a fair bit of useful OS X utility software under my belt. I've now had a few ideas that I'd like to implement - and I'm stuck at almost the first hurdle. I've managed to create an OpenGL view (by way of experimentation) and chuck a few graphics into it (triangles, circles (well, the closest OpenGL can get to a circle anyway!) and so forth). But I can't work out how to get that OpenGL view to accept keystrokes from my event loop. When it comes to tile based games I'm at a complete loss. Obviously, there are various resources out there (SDL, Blitz etc), but I'd rather not use those because I want to understand the ins and outs of my engine. I've googled and come up with plenty of resources for Windows game programming - but not so many for the Mac. In fact, the only book that approaches what I'm after (with friendly examples) is Pangea Software’s Ultimate Game Programming Guide for Mac OS X - but that's rather out of date. What I really want is something like the excellent guides written by luminaries like Kochan or Hillegass, but focussed on game programming for OS X. Does anyone know if such a guide exists? Failing that, is anyone able to suggest a noddy guide to programming games that I might be able to find on the 'net (because so far my efforts have been rather below par). Sorry to post such a non-technical question - I didn't know who else to ask.___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/devlists%40shadowlab.org This email sent to devli...@shadowlab.org -- Jean-Daniel ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: OS X Game Programming
On Apr 7, 2010, at 12:34 AM, Pascal Harris wrote: I've never programmed games before, although I've got a fair bit of useful OS X utility software under my belt. I've now had a few ideas that I'd like to implement - and I'm stuck at almost the first hurdle. I've managed to create an OpenGL view For a 2D sprite- or tile-based game, it's easier to work with CoreAnimation. The API is in Objective-C, is much higher-level, and does the in-betweening steps of animations for you. Under the hood, CA uses OpenGL. I wrote a simple CA-based framework for writing board and card games, if that's anything like what you're trying to do: http://bitbucket.org/snej/geekgameboard/ I also started writing an arcade-style game with CA, using the awesome Box2D physics library. It was quite easy to get shapes acting like real objects onscreen — towers of boxes falling over, etc. Lots and lots of iPhone games use Box2D or the similar Chipmunk library for their physics models. (Of course you could use these with OpenGL too. They don't care how you draw things, they just tell you where to move the objects.) But I can't work out how to get that OpenGL view to accept keystrokes from my event loop. NSViews don't accept keyboard focus by default. You need to override - canBecomeKeyView to return YES, and then wire the view up as the window's initial key view. —Jens ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: OS X Game Programming
On Apr 7, 2010, at 09:28, Jens Alfke wrote: On Apr 7, 2010, at 12:34 AM, Pascal Harris wrote: I've never programmed games before, although I've got a fair bit of useful OS X utility software under my belt. I've now had a few ideas that I'd like to implement - and I'm stuck at almost the first hurdle. I've managed to create an OpenGL view For a 2D sprite- or tile-based game, it's easier to work with CoreAnimation. The API is in Objective-C, is much higher-level, and does the in-betweening steps of animations for you. Under the hood, CA uses OpenGL. I wrote a simple CA-based framework for writing board and card games, if that's anything like what you're trying to do: http://bitbucket.org/snej/geekgameboard/ Jens, Is there an easy way to download the whole package? I looked around and besides downloading each item individually, I didn't see anything like a dmg or zip or svn link. Thanks! -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat/Skype:LaurentDaudelin http://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software laurent.daude...@gmail.com Photo Gallery Store: http://laurentdaudelin.shutterbugstorefront.com/g/galleries___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: OS X Game Programming
On Apr 7, 2010, at 12:34 AM, Pascal Harris wrote: Sorry to post such a non-technical question - I didn't know who else to ask. Hi Pascal, http://www.idevgames.com/forum/ -- Tons of active members willing to help. -- Seth Willits ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: OS X Game Programming
On Apr 7, 2010, at 1:31 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: Jens, Is there an easy way to download the whole package? I looked around and besides downloading each item individually, I didn't see anything like a dmg or zip or svn link. At the top of the page it says: Clone this repository (size: 959.4 KB): HTTPS / SSH $ hg clone http://bitbucket.org/snej/geekgameboard/; This means you need mercurial: http://mercurial.selenic.com/ warmest regards, Ralph this means you need the hg Raffael Cavallaro raffaelcavall...@me.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: OS X Game Programming
On Apr 7, 2010, at 10:31 AM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: Is there an easy way to download the whole package? I looked around and besides downloading each item individually, I didn't see anything like a dmg or zip or svn link. At the far top-right, there is a button labeled Get Source which lets you download the source in several formats including ZIP. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: OS X Game Programming
On Apr 7, 2010, at 11:08 AM, Raffael Cavallaro wrote: At the top of the page it says: Clone this repository (size: 959.4 KB): HTTPS / SSH $ hg clone http://bitbucket.org/snej/geekgameboard/; This means you need mercurial: No you don't — you can just click the get source button at the top right and download as zip or tar. —Jens___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: OS X Game Programming
On Apr 7, 2010, at 3:58 PM, Jens Alfke wrote: On Apr 7, 2010, at 11:08 AM, Raffael Cavallaro wrote: At the top of the page it says: Clone this repository (size: 959.4 KB): HTTPS / SSH $ hg clone http://bitbucket.org/snej/geekgameboard/; This means you need mercurial: No you don't — you can just click the get source button at the top right and download as zip or tar. Sorry about the misinformation - I only saw the hg clone line up top, so that's how I got the source. warmest regards, Ralph Raffael Cavallaro raffaelcavall...@me.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
