Re: How to get bold and plain fonts?
On 31 May 2015, at 4:43 pm, Roland King r...@rols.org wrote: So, TL;DR: how do I find the Font Family name(s) corresponding to an arbitrary list of NSFontDescriptors from a font collection? —Graham just looking at the docs for NSFontDescriptor I would guess [ fontDescriptor objectForKey:NSFontFamilyAttribute ] D’oh!!! As simple as that. Thanks… —Graham ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: How to get bold and plain fonts?
So, TL;DR: how do I find the Font Family name(s) corresponding to an arbitrary list of NSFontDescriptors from a font collection? —Graham just looking at the docs for NSFontDescriptor I would guess [ fontDescriptor objectForKey:NSFontFamilyAttribute ] ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: How to get bold and plain fonts?
A quick test (in Swift no less) suggests to me that this function just doesn’t work (TM). I get non-zero results for these 13 flag combinations (count of fonts + mask) and zero results for every other one of the 4096 combinations. 141 NSItalicFontMask 259 NSBoldFontMask 61 NSItalicFontMask + NSBoldFontMask 6 NSExpandedFontMask 3 NSExpandedFontMask + NSBoldFontMask 43 NSCondensedFontMask 12 NSCondensedFontMask + NSItalicFontMask 22 NSCondensedFontMask + NSBoldFontMask 6 NSCondensedFontMask + NSItalicFontMask + NSBoldFontMask 30 NSFixedPitchFontMask 11 NSFixedPitchFontMask + NSItalicFontMask 11 NSFixedPitchFontMask + NSBoldFontMask 5 NSFixedPitchFontMask + NSItalicFontMask + NSBoldFontMask I think you’re probably better off calling availableFontFamilies then iterating those with availableMembersOfFontFamily: and picking out the ones you want from there. That’s probably better anyway as it will give you all the font families which have both a plain and a bold option which sounds like what you might want. I’d try it out but I’ve exhausted my Swift-fu for the day. On 31 May 2015, at 10:42, Graham Cox graham@bigpond.com wrote: I’m using -[NSFontManager availableFontNamesWithTraits:] and I want to get the names of all of the fonts that have both a regular (plain) and bold option. I’ve tried various things, but this seems like it should work: NSArray* fonts = [[NSFontManager sharedFontManager] availableFontNamesWithTraits:NSBoldFontMask | NSUnboldFontMask]; Except it returns no results. According to the docs if I pass 0 for traits, it should return all the plain fonts, and it’s equivalent to NSUnboldFontMask | NSUnitalicFontMask. That returns no results. If I set it to a single value, such as NSBoldFontMask, I get all the bold fonts, but no plain ones. I also tried NSBoldFontMask | NSUnboldFontMask | NSUnitalicFontMask, but that returns no results. What’s the magic traits mask I need? Seems like it should be a simple thing to get plain + bold, except that a bit mask doesn’t really work to express this, because there’s no value for “plain” - plain is the absence of any other trait. So how do I ask for it? —Graham ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/rols%40rols.org This email sent to r...@rols.org ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: How to get bold and plain fonts?
On 31 May 2015, at 1:44 pm, Kyle Sluder k...@ksluder.com wrote: Here, you're asking for all fonts that consider themselves to be both bold and unbold. This set is going to be empty (unless you have a particularly broken font installed). Yeah, I just realised that though of course you’re adding trait masks together with OR, the value is interpreted as AND, so A ~A = 0. Seems as if there’s no way to express what I want with this. It’s a terrible API anyway. If you want to query for fonts with certain traits, you're much better off using NSFontDescriptor. I’ll look at that as a better alternative. On 31 May 2015, at 1:27 pm, Roland King r...@rols.org wrote: A quick test (in Swift no less) suggests to me that this function just doesn’t work (TM). Looks that way :( Thanks both. —Graham ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: How to get bold and plain fonts?
On Sat, May 30, 2015, at 09:42 PM, Graham Cox wrote: I’m using -[NSFontManager availableFontNamesWithTraits:] and I want to get the names of all of the fonts that have both a regular (plain) and bold option. I’ve tried various things, but this seems like it should work: NSArray* fonts = [[NSFontManager sharedFontManager] availableFontNamesWithTraits:NSBoldFontMask | NSUnboldFontMask]; Here, you're asking for all fonts that consider themselves to be both bold and unbold. This set is going to be empty (unless you have a particularly broken font installed). Except it returns no results. According to the docs if I pass 0 for traits, it should return all the plain fonts, and it’s equivalent to NSUnboldFontMask | NSUnitalicFontMask. That returns no results. This is a known bug. If you want to query for fonts with certain traits, you're much better off using NSFontDescriptor. --Kyle Sluder ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: How to get bold and plain fonts?
On 31 May 2015, at 1:44 pm, Kyle Sluder k...@ksluder.com wrote: you're much better off using NSFontDescriptor. So here’s what I’m trying to do. I have a “simple” UI that, among many other things, allows the user to choose a font for various things in a display. I want to keep the set of choosable fonts down to something ”reasonable” rather than stacking it with every possible font. I’m using a pop-up button to present the fonts, so I want to avoid hierarchical menus which don’t really work very well in a pop-up button. Looking at what NSFontManager provides, I can read in entire font collections that match what the user has set up in the Fonts panel, and that gave me the idea to actually look for a custom collection that has a particular name - I can document that creating a collection with such-and-such a name and populating it will show only those fonts the user added to the custom collection. That’s a nice way to limit the choice, because the user can set it up themselves how they want. But I also need a fallback for when this hasn’t been done, so I thought I’d use the “User” collection and the Favourites” collection (the “User” collection’s name is localized I guess - in mine it’s “English”, but the actual collection name is “com.apple.UserFonts”). When I ask NSFontManager for the descriptors in a collection, I get a very large number, one for each variant of a given font. I’d like to be able to collapse this down to match what the Font Panel displays - it only displays a single entry for each font family, then breaks that down using separate columns. I’d like my menu to match the first column, showing only the family names. Then I might offer only the plain and bold variants within that family. What I’m not clear about is how to go from a list of NSFontDescriptors to a common family that groups those descriptors. There seem to be many methods that expand a descriptor or family, but none that collapse a set of descriptors to a family. I’m happy to perform this collapsing myself, I’m just not sure how I should do it. A NSFontDescriptor doesn’t have a ‘family’ property, and the postscript name property is the full description of course. I could attempt to parse that to find the common root but I’m not sure if that’s reliable. It seems as if it could be, based on the fonts I have installed, but that doesn’t mean it is. So, TL;DR: how do I find the Font Family name(s) corresponding to an arbitrary list of NSFontDescriptors from a font collection? —Graham ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
