Re: Stale xib files
On Sun, Nov 17, 2013, at 05:03 PM, Fritz Anderson wrote: > On Nov 17, 2013, at 8:50 AM, Roland King wrote: > > > No I'm not sure that it is. Appstore updates really do blow things away and > > start over. I'm not sure that anything less than that does that. > > Has that changed? At WWDC 2012 (as I remember), one of the big features > of iOS 6 was that so long as you kept your file names consistent (there > were a few slides on how to do that), App Store downloads would be > incremental. Incrementally downloading new and revised files doesn't stop > the installer from removing the deleted ones. Specifically, the session that talks about this is WWDC 2012 Session 414: Building, Archiving, and Submitting your App. --Kyle Sluder ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Stale xib files
On Nov 17, 2013, at 8:50 AM, Roland King wrote: > No I'm not sure that it is. Appstore updates really do blow things away and > start over. I'm not sure that anything less than that does that. Has that changed? At WWDC 2012 (as I remember), one of the big features of iOS 6 was that so long as you kept your file names consistent (there were a few slides on how to do that), App Store downloads would be incremental. Incrementally downloading new and revised files doesn't stop the installer from removing the deleted ones. This is a separate issue from merging the download and the (surviving) existing files into a fresh application bundle, transferring the user's files and preferences, and swapping the new bundle in. As far as I know, that's still what happens, but it's orthogonal to whether the download is incremental or from-scratch. — F ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Stale xib files
That would be a huge relief. Thanks Roland! On Nov 17, 2013, at 9:50 AM, Roland King wrote: > No I'm not sure that it is. Appstore updates really do blow things away and > start over. I'm not sure that anything less than that does that. > > On 17 Nov, 2013, at 10:33 pm, Kevin Muldoon wrote: > >> However, isn't the process of updating apps in appstore identical to an >> Ad-Hoc distro? For instance, I've seen this same issue when distributing >> apps via TestFlight or even my own server. >> >> On Nov 17, 2013, at 9:06 AM, Koen van der Drift >> wrote: >> >>> >>> On Nov 16, 2013, at 7:33 PM, Roland King wrote: >>> The process of updating apps from the appstore is different from installing in the sim or copying to the device, it creates an entirely new directory with the app bundle, installs the new app and then copies the user data over. So you shouldn't need to do anything special for your users (as long as you are talking about an appstore update) >>> >>> >>> Thanks, that's good to know. My previous comment about using loadView is >>> after reading some more not a good solution, since Apple recommends not to >>> call [super loadView]. >>> >>> - Koen. >> > ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Stale xib files
No I'm not sure that it is. Appstore updates really do blow things away and start over. I'm not sure that anything less than that does that. On 17 Nov, 2013, at 10:33 pm, Kevin Muldoon wrote: > However, isn't the process of updating apps in appstore identical to an > Ad-Hoc distro? For instance, I've seen this same issue when distributing apps > via TestFlight or even my own server. > > On Nov 17, 2013, at 9:06 AM, Koen van der Drift > wrote: > >> >> On Nov 16, 2013, at 7:33 PM, Roland King wrote: >> >>> The process of updating apps from the appstore is different from installing >>> in the sim or copying to the device, it creates an entirely new directory >>> with the app bundle, installs the new app and then copies the user data >>> over. >>> >>> So you shouldn't need to do anything special for your users (as long as you >>> are talking about an appstore update) >> >> >> Thanks, that's good to know. My previous comment about using loadView is >> after reading some more not a good solution, since Apple recommends not to >> call [super loadView]. >> >> - Koen. > ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Stale xib files
However, isn't the process of updating apps in appstore identical to an Ad-Hoc distro? For instance, I've seen this same issue when distributing apps via TestFlight or even my own server. On Nov 17, 2013, at 9:06 AM, Koen van der Drift wrote: > > On Nov 16, 2013, at 7:33 PM, Roland King wrote: > >> The process of updating apps from the appstore is different from installing >> in the sim or copying to the device, it creates an entirely new directory >> with the app bundle, installs the new app and then copies the user data >> over. >> >> So you shouldn't need to do anything special for your users (as long as you >> are talking about an appstore update) > > > Thanks, that's good to know. My previous comment about using loadView is > after reading some more not a good solution, since Apple recommends not to > call [super loadView]. > > - Koen. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Stale xib files
On Nov 16, 2013, at 7:33 PM, Roland King wrote: > The process of updating apps from the appstore is different from installing > in the sim or copying to the device, it creates an entirely new directory > with the app bundle, installs the new app and then copies the user data over. > > So you shouldn't need to do anything special for your users (as long as you > are talking about an appstore update) Thanks, that's good to know. My previous comment about using loadView is after reading some more not a good solution, since Apple recommends not to call [super loadView]. - Koen. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Stale xib files
The process of updating apps from the appstore is different from installing in the sim or copying to the device, it creates an entirely new directory with the app bundle, installs the new app and then copies the user data over. So you shouldn't need to do anything special for your users (as long as you are talking about an appstore update) On 17 Nov, 2013, at 1:26 am, Koen van der Drift wrote: > I'm in the process of removing some xibs, and construct my views in the > ViewController. As it turns out, the app in the simulator or my device don't > recognize that the xib was removed, and I need to completely reset the > simulator, clean my build and build-folder, and then it works. > > My question is, how can I prevent this for my users? I don't want them to > have to remove their app including all the data once an update becomes > avialble. > > - Koen. > ___ > > Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) > > Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. > Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com > > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/rols%40rols.org > > This email sent to r...@rols.org ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Stale xib files
Nice!!! Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 16, 2013, at 4:34 PM, Koen van der Drift > wrote: > > I found a solution (thanks to SO). I moved the view creating code from > viewDidLoad to loadView. And call [super loadView] first. > > - Koen. > > >> On Nov 16, 2013, at 12:54 PM, Kevin Muldoon wrote: >> >> I've experienced this as well, switching from xib to code. As far as I know, >> a clean install is only answer. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Nov 16, 2013, at 12:26 PM, Koen van der Drift >>> wrote: >>> >>> I'm in the process of removing some xibs, and construct my views in the >>> ViewController. As it turns out, the app in the simulator or my device >>> don't recognize that the xib was removed, and I need to completely reset >>> the simulator, clean my build and build-folder, and then it works. >>> >>> My question is, how can I prevent this for my users? I don't want them to >>> have to remove their app including all the data once an update becomes >>> avialble. >>> >>> - Koen. >>> ___ >>> >>> Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) >>> >>> Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. >>> Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com >>> >>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/caoimghgin%40gmail.com >>> >>> This email sent to caoimgh...@gmail.com > ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Stale xib files
I found a solution (thanks to SO). I moved the view creating code from viewDidLoad to loadView. And call [super loadView] first. - Koen. On Nov 16, 2013, at 12:54 PM, Kevin Muldoon wrote: > I've experienced this as well, switching from xib to code. As far as I know, > a clean install is only answer. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 16, 2013, at 12:26 PM, Koen van der Drift >> wrote: >> >> I'm in the process of removing some xibs, and construct my views in the >> ViewController. As it turns out, the app in the simulator or my device don't >> recognize that the xib was removed, and I need to completely reset the >> simulator, clean my build and build-folder, and then it works. >> >> My question is, how can I prevent this for my users? I don't want them to >> have to remove their app including all the data once an update becomes >> avialble. >> >> - Koen. >> ___ >> >> Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) >> >> Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. >> Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com >> >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/caoimghgin%40gmail.com >> >> This email sent to caoimgh...@gmail.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Stale xib files
I've experienced this as well, switching from xib to code. As far as I know, a clean install is only answer. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 16, 2013, at 12:26 PM, Koen van der Drift > wrote: > > I'm in the process of removing some xibs, and construct my views in the > ViewController. As it turns out, the app in the simulator or my device don't > recognize that the xib was removed, and I need to completely reset the > simulator, clean my build and build-folder, and then it works. > > My question is, how can I prevent this for my users? I don't want them to > have to remove their app including all the data once an update becomes > avialble. > > - Koen. > ___ > > Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) > > Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. > Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com > > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/caoimghgin%40gmail.com > > This email sent to caoimgh...@gmail.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
