Re: Wasted Space and Kernighan
"Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it." -- Brian W. Kernighan Personally I find debugging to be half as hard as writing the code in the first place. Also, debugging my own clever code is rarely a problem. Debugging someone else's clever code is another story. Where do bindings fall in all this? It's often like debugging someone else's clever code. -- Brian Stern [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wasted Space and Kernighan
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 7:30 AM, Bill Mutch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Even a general conclusion is not valid unless by 'clever' he means > intentionally obtuse. I'm willing to give bwk the benefit of the doubt. I assumed he was giving a warning against cleverness for cleverness's sake, which is quite a bit different than just coming up with an intelligent solution. -Colin ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wasted Space and Kernighan
First let me say that the views expressed by Michael Ash are almost identical to mine. However, I have to take issue with the often quoted statement of Kernighan on debugging. "Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it." -- Brian W. Kernighan Kernighan takes a general assertion on debugging and concludes that it can be applied to any specific example. That is simply not valid whatever his meaning of 'hard' or 'cleverly as possible'. Even a general conclusion is not valid unless by 'clever' he means intentionally obtuse. I would consider clever coding to be using one's imagination to write code that accomplishes its purpose in perhaps non obvious ways. It could even be easier to debug! Code which I consider 'clever' that I wrote on an IBM mainframe in assembler was designed to make and did make debugging production programs considerably easier. Bill ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
