Newbie question::Redundant logging...

[Stephen Clarke]

Hello,
I have noticed that Cocoon writes the following four lines in my log file
every ten seconds. This is preventing my hard drive from spinning down and
unnecessarily busying the drive. Is there any way to stop it? My development
server is rarely visited, but I like to leave it running on minimum power
just in case.

DEBUG   (2002-02-10) 06:37.10:682   [root.sto] (Unknown-URI)
Unknown-thread/StoreJanitorImpl: getJVM().totalMemory()=10067968
DEBUG   (2002-02-10) 06:37.10:682   [root.sto] (Unknown-URI)
Unknown-thread/StoreJanitorImpl: getHeapsize()=6000
DEBUG   (2002-02-10) 06:37.10:682   [root.sto] (Unknown-URI)
Unknown-thread/StoreJanitorImpl: getJVM().freeMemory()=935640
DEBUG   (2002-02-10) 06:37.10:682   [root.sto] (Unknown-URI)
Unknown-thread/StoreJanitorImpl: getFreememory()=100

Grateful for any pointers on how to stop this logging behavior, or whatever
it is.
--
Best,
Stephen Clarke


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RE: c2: broken pipe

[giacomo]

On Sat, 9 Feb 2002, Vadim Gritsenko wrote:

> > From: giacomo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >
> > On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
> >
> > > > From: Hans-Guenter Stein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > >
> > > > Any help? In my c2 setup with tomcat 3.3, when several request are
> > > > to be processed simultaniously, I get the following exception:
> > > >
> > > > ERROR   (2002-02-08) 18:49.35:583   [access] (/standard.xml)
> > > > Thread-39/CocoonServlet: Problem with servlet
> > > > org.apache.cocoon.ProcessingException: Failed to execute
> pipeline.:
> > > > java.io.IOException: Broken pipe
> > >
> > > Never seen this.
> >
> > Usually "Broken pipe" happens when the client kills the connection
> > (hit the stop button on your browser)
>
> I'm getting
>
> java.lang.RuntimeException: java.net.SocketException: Connection aborted
> by peer: socket write error

And I'm not getting that. My Cocoon runs on a Linux box.

Giacomo

>
> in such situations :-/
>
> Is it Win/Unix difference?
>
> Vadim
>
> >
> > Giacomo
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RE: a question on xsp and a question on parameterizing xslt

[Vadim Gritsenko]

> From: Donald Ball [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> 
> hi guys, long time no see. if anyone's curious where i've been, see
the
> apologetic post to cocoon-dev i just sent in. now, on to my questions.
:)

Welcome back! I will try answer you questions...


> 1. a long while back, we had some discussion on whether or not one
should
> be able to send a redirect from an xsp page. i'd thought the eventual
> consensus was that we should,

:)

> but i guess i was wrong, since the response
> logicsheet doesn't seem to provide any way to send a redirect,

Nope.

> nor does the Response interface provide a redirect method.

Same here.

> however, one of the c2 docs _does_ reference such a method:

Outdated. Want to fix them? :)

 
> http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/userdocs/concepts/actions.html
> 
> compares and contrasts xsp pages and actions. the xsp page it contains
has
> the following snippet:



> the alleged messiness of the code notwithstanding (;)), it seems to be
a
> common development idiom to want to redirect the user to a different
url
> or pipeline if something goes awry in an xsp page (the user can't
login to
> the database, the user doesn't have permission to do something, etc.)
if
> one cannot send a redirect from an xsp page in c2, can one switch
> pipelines based on a flow control statement in an xsp page?

Nope, it's too late: train already left the station, pipeline is already
assembled. But. I should say that there are *other* ways of tricking:
put include transformer after your XSP and generate  when
something is goes wrong. Yes, it's not same as redirect, but it's
definitely something.


> naturally, i can see that one could refactor and use actions to do the
> pipeline switching 

Pipeline selection is the term in use :)


> and/or redirecting instead, but i still can't see any
> good reason to prohibit early exit from a pipeline, via sendRedirect
or
> sendError from any component, including xsp pages.

In most cases response is already committed! And it is too late to add a
header to response.


> it's not always
> desirable to factor to split the flow control stuff out of xsp pages
into
> actions. or is it?

It is desirable from long perspective view...

 
> 2. in developing my own standalone j2ee webapps using trax, i quickly
> realized that if you don't know at what url your webapp is going to be
> mounted, you can't use absolute links to resources in your webapp,
e.g.
> images, javascript libraries, etc. but strictly using relative paths
in
> your xslt stylesheets when referencing those resources is not only a
real
> pita, it's impossible if that stylesheet if used in the construction
of
> urls that appear at different depths in the urlspace. the easy
solution is
> to parameterize the stylesheet with the context path information:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> i presume c2 does not already parameterize stylesheets with this datum
by
> default.

Nope, but (with sitemap syntax modified recently) you easily can add
this to all pipelines:

  

  



> does anyone know how you would easily add that parameter to all,
> or a certain class, of xslt transformations?

Nothing of this kind


> also, i presume that others
> have encountered this problem. is there an alternate solution anyone
has
> used that's better?

I'm thinking about a transformer that converts context:// into absolute
http://. May be not the best way, but definitely will work (and there is
some URL encoding transformer already in the (IIRC) scratchpad)

> 
> - Donald

Regards,
Vadim


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RE: c2: scales badly compared to c1

[Vadim Gritsenko]

> From: Stefano Mazzocchi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> 
> Alexandre Victoor wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am also migrating from C1 to C2. I have tried to migrate changing
as lessc
> >  ode as possible. I have noticed that if I use a very basic
generator,
> > which doesn't use the avalon framework, the amount of memory used by
cocoonk
> >  eep increasing at each request. Well that's quite normal I guess
since myg
> >  enerator can't be recycled...
> 
> Yes, you have to use the appropriate Avalon marking interfaces
> (Recyclable, etc...) in order to have it recycled. Otherwise, the
memory
> keeps increasing because new instances of that component has to be
> created.
> 
> > The real bad thing that I can reproached to C2 is the amount of
memory usedb
> >  y the sitemap. Even with a simple one, about 30MB of memory are
used... Ist
> >  here a way to reduce this amount ?
> 
> This memory is not taken up by Cocoon but by Javac since the sitemap
> gets compiled. It is likely that 90% of this memory is garbage and
will
> be collected next time the JVM will need memory and before increasing
> the heap size.
> 
> Anyway, we are aware of this problem and next release (2.0.2) will
> include another java compiler (pizza) which will reduce the amount of
> memory used to compile things (both sitemap and XSP) and reduce the
> cocoon startup time (since less classes needs to be loaded, the pizza
> jar is about 500Kb compared to the 4mb of javac)
> 
> Finally: yes, Cocoon 2.x is less polished than Cocoon 1.x but expect
> better performances (both runtime and loadtime) and memory footprint
(at
> startup and under load).

In addition to this: Cocoon *requires* tuning in order to make it work
fast. Search for "performance", "tuning" in the users and developers
email archives, it was discussed couple of times but not documented.

PS: Tuning could be for: memory, high concurrent users load, startup
time, etc.

Vadim


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RE: c2: broken pipe

[Vadim Gritsenko]

> From: giacomo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> 
> On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
> 
> > > From: Hans-Guenter Stein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >
> > > Any help? In my c2 setup with tomcat 3.3, when several request are
> > > to be processed simultaniously, I get the following exception:
> > >
> > > ERROR   (2002-02-08) 18:49.35:583   [access] (/standard.xml)
> > > Thread-39/CocoonServlet: Problem with servlet
> > > org.apache.cocoon.ProcessingException: Failed to execute
pipeline.:
> > > java.io.IOException: Broken pipe
> >
> > Never seen this.
> 
> Usually "Broken pipe" happens when the client kills the connection
> (hit the stop button on your browser)

I'm getting 

java.lang.RuntimeException: java.net.SocketException: Connection aborted
by peer: socket write error

in such situations :-/

Is it Win/Unix difference?

Vadim

> 
> Giacomo


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RE: confusion with C2!

[Vadim Gritsenko]

> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On
> 
> Vadim,
> 
> Let me explain. I have worked with java servlets before, and used
> several servlet engines such as jakarta tomcat and iplanet in the
past.

Great, than you should know that if you deploy Cocoon as
C:/Tomcat/webapps/cocoon, then all files goes under this directory -
Cocoon nowadays is trying to behave as regular servlet as much as
possible. Then, to change /cocoon/ part in the URL or to change
directory - just edit server.xml of the Tomcat.

Note: you still can access files outside of Cocoon's context by
specifying absolute file URLs in the sitemap. Try
file://var/tmp/whatever - it should work as well.


> The problem is not deploying these, but understanding specific
> configurations which aren't well documented IMHO.

I totally agree with you here that Cocoon's documentation is not the
best one (to say at least).


> It's been very recent
> since I got into the XML technology (specifically with cocoon) so what
> im really asking for is better sharing of knowledge amongst us...

Use archives, thing is that most questions are already answered on this
list more than one time.

If you had a question, and found an answer in archive, and want to share
this knowledge - send in a patch to the documentation. It always
requires some improvement...

> 
> Thanks for your help,
> Vishal

Regards,
Vadim


> 
> Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
> >
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >
> > > cocoon users,
> > >
> > > Im confused. I don't understand why my xml files have to be in the
> > cocoon
> > > directory e.g. ...webapps/cocoon/proj/file.xml
> >
> > 
> >
> > > Please help! I am desperate!
> >
> > Dear Vishal,
> >
> > As Sun employee you should teach everybody how to deploy web
> > applications, were to put all the class files, etc. Now I see that
you
> > do not have even slightest understanding of how web applications are
> > working. Before you ask other questions, please read specifications
> > published on Sun's website:
> >
> > http://java.sun.com/products/servlet/download.html
> >
> > Also, consider installing and learning one of the servlet engines
> > available out there. Tomcat is among others available for free
under:
> >
> > http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/
> >
> > Regards,
> > Vadim
> >


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Re: c2: scales badly compared to c1

[Stefano Mazzocchi]

Alexandre Victoor wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am also migrating from C1 to C2. I have tried to migrate changing as lessc
>  ode as possible. I have noticed that if I use a very basic generator,
> which doesn't use the avalon framework, the amount of memory used by cocoonk
>  eep increasing at each request. Well that's quite normal I guess since myg
>  enerator can't be recycled...

Yes, you have to use the appropriate Avalon marking interfaces
(Recyclable, etc...) in order to have it recycled. Otherwise, the memory
keeps increasing because new instances of that component has to be
created.

> The real bad thing that I can reproached to C2 is the amount of memory usedb
>  y the sitemap. Even with a simple one, about 30MB of memory are used... Ist
>  here a way to reduce this amount ?

This memory is not taken up by Cocoon but by Javac since the sitemap
gets compiled. It is likely that 90% of this memory is garbage and will
be collected next time the JVM will need memory and before increasing
the heap size.

Anyway, we are aware of this problem and next release (2.0.2) will
include another java compiler (pizza) which will reduce the amount of
memory used to compile things (both sitemap and XSP) and reduce the
cocoon startup time (since less classes needs to be loaded, the pizza
jar is about 500Kb compared to the 4mb of javac)

Finally: yes, Cocoon 2.x is less polished than Cocoon 1.x but expect
better performances (both runtime and loadtime) and memory footprint (at
startup and under load).

-- 
Stefano Mazzocchi  One must still have chaos in oneself to be
  able to give birth to a dancing star.
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Re: Cocoon2 and non-English characters in jsp

[Cocoon User]

try use disable-output-escape="yes" in your XSL
its an atribute that apply to text elemnts



this work in my case exept the content of meta tags
in metatags content i get the same kind of characters like u

kounis stavros
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On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, Gasper wrote:

> I have the one with the 11-Jan-2002 date from the
> http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/dist/.
>
> I got the new JSPEngine.java and JSPEngineImpl.java and JspGenerator.java
> from Code Repository.
>
> Now my characters get encoded like this: šðèæž
> this is the source from my jsp page as seen in the browser.
>
> The actual encoding to a diffrent encoding does not happen I guess.
>
> I tried a xsp page with my utf-8 chars in, but with the same result
> (šðèæž).
>
> I guess now I have to solve how cocoon or maybe tomcat encodes characters.
>
> If somebody found it out for XSP let my know, please!
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks
>
> Gasper
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Vadim Gritsenko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 1:33 AM
> Subject: RE: Cocoon2 and non-English characters in jsp
>
>
> > What Cocoon version do you have? Only Cocoon post-2.0 release from CVS
> > have correct handling of JSP encoding.
> >
> > (See
> > http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/xml-cocoon2/changes.xml?rev=1.75&conte
> > nt-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup, first mention of JSPEngine)
> >
> > Vadim
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Gasper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 7:16 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: Cocoon2 and non-English characters in jsp
> > >
> > > The encoding for a jsp is done like this:
> > > <%@page contentType="text/html; charset=iso-8859-2"%>
> > > But this does not help.
> > >
> > > 
> > > On top of my jsp doesn't help either.
> > >
> > > I've also tried the following in my sitemap.xmap but with no success.
> > > > > src="org.apache.cocoon.serialization.HTMLSerializer">
> > >  iso-8859-2
> > >
> > >
> > > Any other ideas?
> > >
> > > Thanks very much.
> > >
> > > Gasper
> > >
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Vadim Gritsenko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 9:36 PM
> > > Subject: RE: Cocoon2 and non-English characters in jsp
> > >
> > >
> > > > > From: Gasper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello
> > > > >
> > > > > If I use non-English characters in my jsp's, they appear in the
> > > > browser as
> > > > > question marks.
> > > > >
> > > > > How can I specify the encoding for my page served by cocoon2?
> > > >
> > > > First you have to define encoding in your JSP source file. Look into
> > JSP
> > > > spec for a way to do this (I don't remember)
> > > >
> > > > Vadim
> > > >
> > > >
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RE: Very unique requirement - Please help.....

[Luca Morandini]

Chitharanjan,

how about reading the source code of a cocoon transformer ?

I wrote my first transformer by adapting the source code of a transformer
distributed with cocoon and learning a bit of SAX API in the process... and
it works :)

Best regards,

P.S.
Next time, could you use plain text ?

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-Original Message-
From: Chitharanjan Das [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 2:42 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Very unique requirement - Please help.


Hello All,
I have an interesting requirement. I hope I will be able to
articulate it.


I want to have the XML Document as a string in the Transformer and process
the XML myself.
I need to send the XML document to another class which performs some other
logic .

Let me summarize the requirement\

Generator generates the XML o/p
Transformer transforms the XML o/p into the specified o/p (XML/PDF etc)

I need to create a new transformer, which gets hold of the generated xml o/p
and invokes other java object

In short,
I need to get the xml o/p, either from a generator or from a
pipe-line.

Could any one of U please help me on this ?

Regds,
Chiths


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RE: confusion with C2!

[Luca Morandini]

Vishal,

actually, you don't need to have your XML files under the cocoon directory.

For instance, I have my Cocoon directory under
"c:\apps\tomcat\webapps\cocoon", but I have my XML fles under
"d:\noria\noria".
The solution to this is just mounting a sub-sitemap under the main sitemap.

For instance, there is this fragment in my sitemap
("c:\apps\tomcat\webapps\cocoon\sitemap.xmap"):







This tells Cocoon to process every URI with "noria/" in it, to
the sub-sitemap located under "d:/noria/noria", which will act as the new
root for XML files.

Best regards,

P.S.
On a personal note: while I think Vadim was a bit too harsh on you, I can't
help noticing that there is FAQ entry about this (named: "How could I have
my Cocoon app in a directory other than
$TOMCAT_HOME/webapps/cocoon/?").

Since I wrote that FAQ entry I'd like to know:
1) Did you read it ?
2) If yes, was it helpful to you ?
3) If not, how could it be rewritten in a more meaningful way ?

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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Vishal Khatnani
> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 8:38 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: confusion with C2!
>
>
> Vadim,
>
> Let me explain. I have worked with java servlets before, and used
> several servlet engines such as jakarta tomcat and iplanet in the past.
> The problem is not deploying these, but understanding specific
> configurations which aren't well documented IMHO. It's been very recent
> since I got into the XML technology (specifically with cocoon) so what
> im really asking for is better sharing of knowledge amongst us...
>
> Thanks for your help,
> Vishal
>
>
>
> Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
> >
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >
> > > cocoon users,
> > >
> > > Im confused. I don't understand why my xml files have to be in the
> > cocoon
> > > directory e.g. ...webapps/cocoon/proj/file.xml
> >
> > 
> >
> > > Please help! I am desperate!
> >
> > Dear Vishal,
> >
> > As Sun employee you should teach everybody how to deploy web
> > applications, were to put all the class files, etc. Now I see that you
> > do not have even slightest understanding of how web applications are
> > working. Before you ask other questions, please read specifications
> > published on Sun's website:
> >
> > http://java.sun.com/products/servlet/download.html
> >
> > Also, consider installing and learning one of the servlet engines
> > available out there. Tomcat is among others available for free under:
> >
> > http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/
> >
> > Regards,
> > Vadim
> >
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RE: c2: broken pipe

[giacomo]

On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Vadim Gritsenko wrote:

> > From: Hans-Guenter Stein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >
> > Any help? In my c2 setup with tomcat 3.3, when several request are to
> be
> > processed simultaniously, I get the following exception:
> >
> > ERROR   (2002-02-08) 18:49.35:583   [access] (/standard.xml)
> > Thread-39/CocoonServlet: Problem with servlet
> > org.apache.cocoon.ProcessingException: Failed to execute pipeline.:
> > java.io.IOException: Broken pipe
>
> Never seen this.

Usually "Broken pipe" happens when the client kills the connection
(hit the stop button on your browser)

Giacomo

>
> > at
> >
> org.apache.cocoon.components.pipeline.CachingStreamPipeline.process(Cach
> ingStr
> > eamPipeline.java:370)
>
> What's in this file, in this line and around?
>
> Vadim
>
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