Re: XSL FO

2003-02-08 Thread Mike Haarman

On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, J.Pietschmann wrote:

 Tom Place wrote:

  !-- This error is generated by the tomcat window--
  java.lang.RuntimeException: Errors in XSLT transformation:
  Fatal: org.apache.for.apps.FOPException: 'master-referance' for
  'fo:page-sequence matches no 'simple-page-master' or
  'page-sequence-master'

You have a discrepancy between the @master-name(s) of your page-masters
and the name you are using to reference them in the @master-reference of
your page-sequence.

 It is also recommended to use the FOP CLI for initial development
 of the style sheet and deploy to Cocoon only after some debugging.
 You'll get better error messages.

 J.Pietschmann

I second.

Mike


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Re: custom generator not working on a fresh install

2003-02-08 Thread peter riegersperger
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A note about the best(?) (cocoon-) development environment ...

2003-02-08 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
Hy, all;

During the last months of activities i learned a lot from this mailing 
list. while i followed the discussions i started getting my development
environment a bit up to date.  I plan to setup a Wiki page on this
theme. Although this may be a bit off topic, it still would be great,
if someone could comment on this issue.


the tools collection

Here is what i have put together so far. Of course this is driven
at least partially by what i do for my customers...

free tools:
1.) OS: linux and solaris (maybe a mater of taste)
2.) apache 1.3.26 (mod_jk2, mod_SSL)
3.) tomcat 4.1.18
4.) cocoon-2.0.4
5.) eclipse
6.) sunbow eclipse tools (xml/sitemap)
7.) ant
8.) java-1.3.1 (sun JDK on all platforms)
9.) Secureway LDAP Server (i'll switch to Open LDAP soon)

commercial tools:
10.) clearcase cms (see below)
11.) xml-spy
12.) several DB-Systems

notes about the collection
--

* All tools mentioned above fit tightly together.
  I use apache/tomcat since about three years now.
  The above combination also works fine with SSL.

* After i got eclipse setup in tomcat debugging mode,
  i could at least double my productivity.
  Thanks to the tomcat site it was a matter of seconds to
  get it up see:

	http://jakarta.apache.org/site/idedev-rdtomcat.html

* I also managed to setup eclipse with Cocoon in less than 10
  minutes. OK, i did a lousy trick, but for debugging and
  learning how cocoon internals  work it's absolutley
  satisfying...

* about SCM in general and Clearcase in particular:
  Clearcase is a quite expensive and known to be very slow
  SCM tool. On the other hand it is super easy to integrate.
  Due to exposing the data within a virtual filesystem you
  just don't see it from the users viewpoint (except checkin
  checkout your files).
  Having the clearcase integration kit for eclipse up and
  running comes near to a developers dream. I hope, after
  Rational has been incorporated into IBM, clearcase or a
  derivate of it will eventually find it's way into the
  ongoing eclipse efforts to build just another SCM. See

http://www.eclipse.org/technology/index.html
follow the link to stellation at the bottom of the page.

  Another interesting new SCM could be subversion from

http://subversion.tigris.org/ ...

  All of these SCM's provide directory versioning
  (something once you got it, you'll never want to miss again...)

* I happen to use XML-Spy since a couple of years now.
  Maybe i just got used to it. I like it, although i have
  to pay for the license. At least it helps me getting
  my XSCHEMA's generated in no time.


My personal SAXESS story ...

SAXESS stands for System AXESS, just to get this clear;-)
I write this down, mainly because i got very very satisfied
with this especially when i compare this to what i was used
to in former times when open source was something, nobody
ever heard of...

I'm running my webserver on some linux box and my webapps
on solaris driven by tomcat. All of my code is dropped
into a company wide  multiplatform SCM system. I'm developing
with the eclipse IDE right on my Desktop machine. I'm running
Cocoon for the visualisation part of my projects. This is just
a great XML publishing tool, and i'm still only using the
basics of it for now. By saving my work to the SCM,
my testwebapp gets autodeployed on a solaris box, which
happens to be our testenvironment. I can setup remote debuggig
sessions from my desktop directly into the heart of my
webapplications...
Once i checked in my work into the SCM, my webapp gets
autodeployed on linux, which happens to be our website
server. And i bet, after fiddeling around a bit, i could
setup a debugging session on my customers site, while sitting
somewhere at a  beach, quickfix a bug, and then turn back to
the real life just beeing happy for the rest of the day...

A personal thank to the Open Source comunity

Folks, Thank you very much all you, who have contributed to get
such a powerfull toolset up and running. I just get very excited
seeing this developer's dream becoming reality...
And sad enough i'm not sitting at a beach, but in
good ol'e germany getting to much rain and too
few sun (solaris is not good for everything...).

thanks for your attention, if your patience lasted until here ;-)

regards, Hussayn

--
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SAXESS Software Design GmbH
Neuenhöfer Allee 125
D-50935 Köln
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Re: [SUMMARY] DatabaseAddAction and unique or primary keys

2003-02-08 Thread Sheraz Sharif
Sorry the message was double posted..but good news!

Antoino, thanks for pushing me in that direction.  I did not think the
modular DatabaseAddAction would handle unique keys, but it does (I had
to hunt through the source to find this out)  I updated my descriptor
files to be compatible with modular DB actions.  This meant moving
unique keys out of the key tags and into the value tags.  Duplicate
keys are handled gracefully.  My next goal is to return a notification
to the xsp page telling the user about the duplicate.  But I will save
that for another thread.  Cheers to all for their help!

Sheraz

On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 18:17, Antonio Gallardo wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Today morning I told you about the MODULAR Database Actions, also I
 pointed you to:
 
 http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=ModularDatabaseActions
 
 There you can find ALL the info about how to do what you mean. Also I can
 work with sequence (you told before you use PostgreSQL 7.2).
 
 Sheraz Sharif dijo:
  Hello all,
 
  I have been working on a website for a while.  Here is my problem - I
  can easily verify user input through forms and return any error messages
  through the xsp-formval tags.  After validation, the input is passed to
  the database.  However, I get an SQL exception :
 
  ProcessingException: Could not add record: java.sql.SQLException: ERROR:
  Cannot insert a duplicate key into unique index category_name_key
 
  This is happening because I am attempting to insert a value into a key
  column where that value already exists.  I am looking for a solution
  where cocoon will connect to the database and attempt to retreive the
  key value before the insert.  If it does not exist, it will insert it,
  otherwise it will fail and I can notify the user of the error.
 
 I think you can do a select before and check for the result of the select.
 Sorry, I use XSP, but maybe the example will work:
 
 esql:execute-query
  esql:query
 SELECT the_key
 FROM the_table
 WHERE the_key=esql:parameter type=intxsp-request:get-parameter
 name=mykey_id default=//esql:parameter
   /esql:query
   esql:no-results
 !-- The key does not exist, we are going to insert a new record. --
 esql:execute-query
   esql:query
 INSERT INTO the_table(the_key, the_data1, the_data2) ..
   /esql:query
   esql:results/
 /esql:execute-query
   esql:no-results
   esql:results
 !-- Here the_key value exist! == SHOW YOUR ERROR AS YOU WANT! --
   /esql:results
 /esql:execute-query
 
 Best Regards,
 
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Re: A note about the best(?) (cocoon-) development environment ...

2003-02-08 Thread Robert Simmons
I find eclipse to be a bit too pushy for my tastes. The NetBeans platform
is a bit more open. In addition the eclipse XML editor is a little primitive.
The NetBeans one at least closes tags and offers various other functionality.
Additionally the eclipse release schedule is almost wholly managed by IBM
which makes it a hit or miss thing. The last straw is the relatively limited
plug-in availability for eclipse. It took me hours just to find a site with a
full eclipse module catalog.

The only other comment I have is that I'm still searching for a content
editor for Static XML. I'm currently investigating using adobe FrameMaker.
The idea being that I would have a WYSIWYG way of editing documents that any
one of my clients could use and I could write XSLT processors to convert that
to the web format using cocoon. Right now the current XML editors are too
primitive. Usable for a programmer but for a corporate document jockey, no
chance.

-- Robert

- Original Message -
From: SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 12:46 PM
Subject: A note about the best(?) (cocoon-) development environment ...


 Hy, all;

 During the last months of activities i learned a lot from this mailing
 list. while i followed the discussions i started getting my development
 environment a bit up to date.  I plan to setup a Wiki page on this
 theme. Although this may be a bit off topic, it still would be great,
 if someone could comment on this issue.


 the tools collection
 
 Here is what i have put together so far. Of course this is driven
 at least partially by what i do for my customers...

 free tools:
 1.) OS: linux and solaris (maybe a mater of taste)
 2.) apache 1.3.26 (mod_jk2, mod_SSL)
 3.) tomcat 4.1.18
 4.) cocoon-2.0.4
 5.) eclipse
 6.) sunbow eclipse tools (xml/sitemap)
 7.) ant
 8.) java-1.3.1 (sun JDK on all platforms)
 9.) Secureway LDAP Server (i'll switch to Open LDAP soon)

 commercial tools:
 10.) clearcase cms (see below)
 11.) xml-spy
 12.) several DB-Systems

 notes about the collection
 --

 * All tools mentioned above fit tightly together.
I use apache/tomcat since about three years now.
The above combination also works fine with SSL.

 * After i got eclipse setup in tomcat debugging mode,
i could at least double my productivity.
Thanks to the tomcat site it was a matter of seconds to
get it up see:

 http://jakarta.apache.org/site/idedev-rdtomcat.html

 * I also managed to setup eclipse with Cocoon in less than 10
minutes. OK, i did a lousy trick, but for debugging and
learning how cocoon internals  work it's absolutley
satisfying...

 * about SCM in general and Clearcase in particular:
Clearcase is a quite expensive and known to be very slow
SCM tool. On the other hand it is super easy to integrate.
Due to exposing the data within a virtual filesystem you
just don't see it from the users viewpoint (except checkin
checkout your files).
Having the clearcase integration kit for eclipse up and
running comes near to a developers dream. I hope, after
Rational has been incorporated into IBM, clearcase or a
derivate of it will eventually find it's way into the
ongoing eclipse efforts to build just another SCM. See

  http://www.eclipse.org/technology/index.html
  follow the link to stellation at the bottom of the page.

Another interesting new SCM could be subversion from

  http://subversion.tigris.org/ ...

All of these SCM's provide directory versioning
(something once you got it, you'll never want to miss again...)

 * I happen to use XML-Spy since a couple of years now.
Maybe i just got used to it. I like it, although i have
to pay for the license. At least it helps me getting
my XSCHEMA's generated in no time.


 My personal SAXESS story ...
 
 SAXESS stands for System AXESS, just to get this clear;-)
 I write this down, mainly because i got very very satisfied
 with this especially when i compare this to what i was used
 to in former times when open source was something, nobody
 ever heard of...

 I'm running my webserver on some linux box and my webapps
 on solaris driven by tomcat. All of my code is dropped
 into a company wide  multiplatform SCM system. I'm developing
 with the eclipse IDE right on my Desktop machine. I'm running
 Cocoon for the visualisation part of my projects. This is just
 a great XML publishing tool, and i'm still only using the
 basics of it for now. By saving my work to the SCM,
 my testwebapp gets autodeployed on a solaris box, which
 happens to be our testenvironment. I can setup remote debuggig
 sessions from my desktop directly into the heart of my
 webapplications...
 Once i checked in my work into the SCM, my webapp gets
 autodeployed on linux, which happens to be our website
 server. And i bet, after fiddeling around a bit, i could

Javadoc Doclets Compatible with cocoon ?

2003-02-08 Thread Robert Simmons



Greetings. Does anyone know a Javadoc Doclet that 
puts out documentation with XML markup that would be usable within a cocoon 
distribution? Id like to set up a system where I have a bit more control over 
rendering of the Javadoc and where I can have the Javadoc auto-generated nightly 
and available by intranet on the web via XML-XSLT. 

-- Robert


Re: A note about the best(?) (cocoon-) development environment ...

2003-02-08 Thread Robert Simmons
 Hy, all;

 During the last months of activities i learned a lot from this mailing
 list. while i followed the discussions i started getting my development
 environment a bit up to date.  I plan to setup a Wiki page on this
 theme. Although this may be a bit off topic, it still would be great,
 if someone could comment on this issue.


 the tools collection
 
 Here is what i have put together so far. Of course this is driven
 at least partially by what i do for my customers...

 free tools:
 1.) OS: linux and solaris (maybe a mater of taste)

Go linux. Instead of spending money on licenses, you spend money on support
contracts. Cheaper. In addition, Solaris is primitive compared to Linux.

 2.) apache 1.3.26 (mod_jk2, mod_SSL)

Duh ;)

 3.) tomcat 4.1.18

Yes, but you can go one step further. Get JBoss with integrated tomcat. JBoss
will handle all sorty of nasty things like deploying to clusters for you. As
a bonus, you get the ability to integrate with EJB based programs.

 4.) cocoon-2.0.4

2.1 Hopefully soon!

 5.) eclipse

See my previous message about eclopse vs netbeans.

 6.) sunbow eclipse tools (xml/sitemap)

URL ?

 7.) ant

I have 15 million of them in my damn appartment, want a few? Oh ... you mean
Jakarta ant? Ok, nevermind then. =) Im currently looking at Krysalis'
extensions to ant. http://www.krysalis.org/centipede/quickstart.html


 8.) java-1.3.1 (sun JDK on all platforms)

No no .. 1.4.1!! In 1.4 there are so many COOOL things that I couldnt
live without anymore.

 9.) Secureway LDAP Server (i'll switch to Open LDAP soon)

Im an LDAP idiot so Ill trust you there.

Tools you didnt talk  about:

CVS - Use it over clearcase. its powerful, free, and a pleasure to use.
BugZilla - Great program! Lousy looking interface. We should start a
project to port
it to cocoon. =) However bugzilla is a great and free
bugtracking system.

 commercial tools:
 10.) clearcase cms (see below)

Garbage.

 11.) xml-spy

Good but confusing.

 12.) several DB-Systems

all you need is Mysql baby.

Ones you didnt talk about:

13) Together control center. If you can afford it, it absolutely kills any
other IDE on the planet.
14) eXcelon Stylus Studio. A great XML editor. It has a bonus of being easy
to use and allot less confusing than XML Spy.
15) User editors for creating static content. (FrameMaker? OpenOffice? Im
still working on this one)
16) Kodo JDO. Dont leave home without it. All that nasty persistence stuff
just goes POOOF.


 notes about the collection
 --

 * All tools mentioned above fit tightly together.
I use apache/tomcat since about three years now.
The above combination also works fine with SSL.

 * After i got eclipse setup in tomcat debugging mode,
i could at least double my productivity.
Thanks to the tomcat site it was a matter of seconds to
get it up see:

 http://jakarta.apache.org/site/idedev-rdtomcat.html

 * I also managed to setup eclipse with Cocoon in less than 10
minutes. OK, i did a lousy trick, but for debugging and
learning how cocoon internals  work it's absolutley
satisfying...

Shouldnt be tough, just run tomcat (or JBoss) in debug mode with a socket
attach. Then you can remote attach to the socket and you are on your way!


 * about SCM in general and Clearcase in particular:
Clearcase is a quite expensive and known to be very slow
SCM tool. On the other hand it is super easy to integrate.
Due to exposing the data within a virtual filesystem you
just don't see it from the users viewpoint (except checkin
checkout your files).
Having the clearcase integration kit for eclipse up and
running comes near to a developers dream. I hope, after
Rational has been incorporated into IBM, clearcase or a
derivate of it will eventually find it's way into the
ongoing eclipse efforts to build just another SCM. See

  http://www.eclipse.org/technology/index.html
  follow the link to stellation at the bottom of the page.

Another interesting new SCM could be subversion from

  http://subversion.tigris.org/ ...

All of these SCM's provide directory versioning
(something once you got it, you'll never want to miss again...)

 * I happen to use XML-Spy since a couple of years now.
Maybe i just got used to it. I like it, although i have
to pay for the license. At least it helps me getting
my XSCHEMA's generated in no time.


 My personal SAXESS story ...
 
 SAXESS stands for System AXESS, just to get this clear;-)
 I write this down, mainly because i got very very satisfied
 with this especially when i compare this to what i was used
 to in former times when open source was something, nobody
 ever heard of...

 I'm running my webserver on some linux box and my webapps
 on solaris driven by tomcat. All of my code is dropped
 into a company wide  multiplatform SCM system. I'm developing
 with the eclipse 

Re: Javadoc Doclets Compatible with cocoon ?

2003-02-08 Thread Stephan Michels



On Sat, 8 Feb 2003, Robert Simmons wrote:

 Greetings. Does anyone know a Javadoc Doclet that puts out documentation
 with XML markup that would be usable within a cocoon distribution? Id
 like to set up a system where I have a bit more control over rendering
 of the Javadoc and where I can have the Javadoc auto-generated nightly
 and available by intranet on the web via XML-XSLT.

There exists two possibilities. The first is a generator, which was
commited to bugzilla as a patch.

http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=16523

The second is to use the chaperon parser component, see the chaperon
block in the current CVS HEAD.

Stephan Michels.


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Cocoon with IBMJava2-SDK-14

2003-02-08 Thread conrad

Hi everyone

Does any body try to run Cocoon 2.0.4 with Jboss3.0.4 (Jetty) on IBMJava2-SDK-14 ?
os linux 2.4.19 ?

--
Regards
Konrad

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Re: A note about the best(?) (cocoon-) development environment ...

2003-02-08 Thread Thor Heinrichs-Wolpert
Robert:

Have a look at Jetty, or JBoss/Jetty (aka JBossWeb).  No nasty must 
copy things to endorsed directories, etc.).  You take Cocoon (2.0/2.1) 
and drop it in your deploy directory and POOF it's there.  It's nice 
when the servlet engine actually uses the libs you define and not its 
own first as the default ... isn't that in the spec ... and will be 
available in Tomcat at some point.

If you want any extra libs in cocoon-2.1 you add them in the lib tree, 
add them to jars.xml and the cocoon build adds them to the Manifest ... 
Jetty/Jboss just eats 'em up in the right place.

I'm off to look for Kudo JDO (which hopefully follows the ODMG JDO and 
not Sun's) ... how does this rank against Castor or Jakarta-OJB ?

Cheers,
Thor HW

On Saturday, February 8, 2003, at 11:42  AM, Robert Simmons wrote:

Hy, all;

During the last months of activities i learned a lot from this mailing
list. while i followed the discussions i started getting my 
development
environment a bit up to date.  I plan to setup a Wiki page on this
theme. Although this may be a bit off topic, it still would be great,
if someone could comment on this issue.


the tools collection

Here is what i have put together so far. Of course this is driven
at least partially by what i do for my customers...

free tools:
1.) OS: linux and solaris (maybe a mater of taste)

Go linux. Instead of spending money on licenses, you spend money on 
support
contracts. Cheaper. In addition, Solaris is primitive compared to 
Linux.

2.) apache 1.3.26 (mod_jk2, mod_SSL)


Duh ;)


3.) tomcat 4.1.18


Yes, but you can go one step further. Get JBoss with integrated 
tomcat. JBoss
will handle all sorty of nasty things like deploying to clusters for 
you. As
a bonus, you get the ability to integrate with EJB based programs.

4.) cocoon-2.0.4


2.1 Hopefully soon!


5.) eclipse


See my previous message about eclopse vs netbeans.


6.) sunbow eclipse tools (xml/sitemap)


URL ?


7.) ant


I have 15 million of them in my damn appartment, want a few? Oh ... 
you mean
Jakarta ant? Ok, nevermind then. =) Im currently looking at Krysalis'
extensions to ant. http://www.krysalis.org/centipede/quickstart.html


8.) java-1.3.1 (sun JDK on all platforms)


No no .. 1.4.1!! In 1.4 there are so many COOOL things that I 
couldnt
live without anymore.

9.) Secureway LDAP Server (i'll switch to Open LDAP soon)


Im an LDAP idiot so Ill trust you there.

Tools you didnt talk  about:

CVS - Use it over clearcase. its powerful, free, and a pleasure to use.
BugZilla - Great program! Lousy looking interface. We should start 
a
project to port
it to cocoon. =) However bugzilla is a great and free
bugtracking system.

commercial tools:
10.) clearcase cms (see below)


Garbage.


11.) xml-spy


Good but confusing.


12.) several DB-Systems


all you need is Mysql baby.

Ones you didnt talk about:

13) Together control center. If you can afford it, it absolutely kills 
any
other IDE on the planet.
14) eXcelon Stylus Studio. A great XML editor. It has a bonus of being 
easy
to use and allot less confusing than XML Spy.
15) User editors for creating static content. (FrameMaker? OpenOffice? 
Im
still working on this one)
16) Kodo JDO. Dont leave home without it. All that nasty persistence 
stuff
just goes POOOF.


notes about the collection
--

* All tools mentioned above fit tightly together.
   I use apache/tomcat since about three years now.
   The above combination also works fine with SSL.

* After i got eclipse setup in tomcat debugging mode,
   i could at least double my productivity.
   Thanks to the tomcat site it was a matter of seconds to
   get it up see:

http://jakarta.apache.org/site/idedev-rdtomcat.html

* I also managed to setup eclipse with Cocoon in less than 10
   minutes. OK, i did a lousy trick, but for debugging and
   learning how cocoon internals  work it's absolutley
   satisfying...


Shouldnt be tough, just run tomcat (or JBoss) in debug mode with a 
socket
attach. Then you can remote attach to the socket and you are on your 
way!


* about SCM in general and Clearcase in particular:
   Clearcase is a quite expensive and known to be very slow
   SCM tool. On the other hand it is super easy to integrate.
   Due to exposing the data within a virtual filesystem you
   just don't see it from the users viewpoint (except checkin
   checkout your files).
   Having the clearcase integration kit for eclipse up and
   running comes near to a developers dream. I hope, after
   Rational has been incorporated into IBM, clearcase or a
   derivate of it will eventually find it's way into the
   ongoing eclipse efforts to build just another SCM. See

 http://www.eclipse.org/technology/index.html
 follow the link to stellation at the bottom of the page.

   Another interesting new SCM could be subversion from

 http://subversion.tigris.org/ ...

   All of these SCM's provide directory versioning
   

Re: A note about the best(?) (cocoon-) development environment ...

2003-02-08 Thread Robert Simmons
I use JBoss but not jetty. Are you saying the Jetty-JBoss combo is superior
to the Tomcat-JBoss combo? If so, I will definitely go try it. Perhaps it
will fix my classpath in XSP issue. Bugzilla Reference:
http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=16580.

Kodo JDO is an implementation of the JDO specification and MORE. It basically
rules. Go through the tutorials and you will love it. Create an object model
using your favorite problem domain. Then create the JDO mapping file (raw XML
or with IDE plug-in) and then just say uhh, make a schema for me and it
just does it. Its amazing! No more screwing around with persistence and
schema manipulation.

I have the commercial version of that product and will be talking about using
it in the book that I am writing.

-- Robert



- Original Message -
From: Thor Heinrichs-Wolpert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: A note about the best(?) (cocoon-) development environment ...


Robert:

Have a look at Jetty, or JBoss/Jetty (aka JBossWeb).  No nasty must
copy things to endorsed directories, etc.).  You take Cocoon (2.0/2.1)
and drop it in your deploy directory and POOF it's there.  It's nice
when the servlet engine actually uses the libs you define and not its
own first as the default ... isn't that in the spec ... and will be
available in Tomcat at some point.

If you want any extra libs in cocoon-2.1 you add them in the lib tree,
add them to jars.xml and the cocoon build adds them to the Manifest ...
Jetty/Jboss just eats 'em up in the right place.

I'm off to look for Kudo JDO (which hopefully follows the ODMG JDO and
not Sun's) ... how does this rank against Castor or Jakarta-OJB ?

Cheers,
Thor HW

On Saturday, February 8, 2003, at 11:42  AM, Robert Simmons wrote:

 Hy, all;

 During the last months of activities i learned a lot from this mailing
 list. while i followed the discussions i started getting my
 development
 environment a bit up to date.  I plan to setup a Wiki page on this
 theme. Although this may be a bit off topic, it still would be great,
 if someone could comment on this issue.


 the tools collection
 
 Here is what i have put together so far. Of course this is driven
 at least partially by what i do for my customers...

 free tools:
 1.) OS: linux and solaris (maybe a mater of taste)

 Go linux. Instead of spending money on licenses, you spend money on
 support
 contracts. Cheaper. In addition, Solaris is primitive compared to
 Linux.

 2.) apache 1.3.26 (mod_jk2, mod_SSL)

 Duh ;)

 3.) tomcat 4.1.18

 Yes, but you can go one step further. Get JBoss with integrated
 tomcat. JBoss
 will handle all sorty of nasty things like deploying to clusters for
 you. As
 a bonus, you get the ability to integrate with EJB based programs.

 4.) cocoon-2.0.4

 2.1 Hopefully soon!

 5.) eclipse

 See my previous message about eclopse vs netbeans.

 6.) sunbow eclipse tools (xml/sitemap)

 URL ?

 7.) ant

 I have 15 million of them in my damn appartment, want a few? Oh ...
 you mean
 Jakarta ant? Ok, nevermind then. =) Im currently looking at Krysalis'
 extensions to ant. http://www.krysalis.org/centipede/quickstart.html


 8.) java-1.3.1 (sun JDK on all platforms)

 No no .. 1.4.1!! In 1.4 there are so many COOOL things that I
 couldnt
 live without anymore.

 9.) Secureway LDAP Server (i'll switch to Open LDAP soon)

 Im an LDAP idiot so Ill trust you there.

 Tools you didnt talk  about:

 CVS - Use it over clearcase. its powerful, free, and a pleasure to use.
 BugZilla - Great program! Lousy looking interface. We should start
 a
 project to port
 it to cocoon. =) However bugzilla is a great and free
 bugtracking system.

 commercial tools:
 10.) clearcase cms (see below)

 Garbage.

 11.) xml-spy

 Good but confusing.

 12.) several DB-Systems

 all you need is Mysql baby.

 Ones you didnt talk about:

 13) Together control center. If you can afford it, it absolutely kills
 any
 other IDE on the planet.
 14) eXcelon Stylus Studio. A great XML editor. It has a bonus of being
 easy
 to use and allot less confusing than XML Spy.
 15) User editors for creating static content. (FrameMaker? OpenOffice?
 Im
 still working on this one)
 16) Kodo JDO. Dont leave home without it. All that nasty persistence
 stuff
 just goes POOOF.


 notes about the collection
 --

 * All tools mentioned above fit tightly together.
I use apache/tomcat since about three years now.
The above combination also works fine with SSL.

 * After i got eclipse setup in tomcat debugging mode,
i could at least double my productivity.
Thanks to the tomcat site it was a matter of seconds to
get it up see:

 http://jakarta.apache.org/site/idedev-rdtomcat.html

 * I also managed to setup eclipse with Cocoon in less than 10
minutes. OK, i did a lousy trick, but for debugging and
learning how cocoon internals  work it's 

Re: A note about the best(?) (cocoon-) development environment ...

2003-02-08 Thread Thor Heinrichs-Wolpert
Which JDO?  The ODMG JDO (like what Castor uses) or the after class 
generation muck about that is in the Sun JDO?

Jetty has been using JMX long before Tomcat, it fully supports the spec 
... and I'm thinking it supports it before the reference implementation 
does (like the classpath stuff).  Is it superior, I can't say for sure 
(but it is the default / preferred servlet engine in JBoss.  I like it 
because it takes me less screwing around with jar clashes between 
applications and what the server itself uses (making me less dependent 
on their support cycle and changes in where the JDK wants things).

Cheers,
Thor HW

On Saturday, February 8, 2003, at 01:05  PM, Robert Simmons wrote:

I use JBoss but not jetty. Are you saying the Jetty-JBoss combo is 
superior
to the Tomcat-JBoss combo? If so, I will definitely go try it. Perhaps 
it
will fix my classpath in XSP issue. Bugzilla Reference:
http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=16580.

Kodo JDO is an implementation of the JDO specification and MORE. It 
basically
rules. Go through the tutorials and you will love it. Create an object 
model
using your favorite problem domain. Then create the JDO mapping file 
(raw XML
or with IDE plug-in) and then just say uhh, make a schema for me and 
it
just does it. Its amazing! No more screwing around with persistence and
schema manipulation.

I have the commercial version of that product and will be talking 
about using
it in the book that I am writing.

-- Robert



- Original Message -
From: Thor Heinrichs-Wolpert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: A note about the best(?) (cocoon-) development 
environment ...


Robert:

Have a look at Jetty, or JBoss/Jetty (aka JBossWeb).  No nasty must
copy things to endorsed directories, etc.).  You take Cocoon (2.0/2.1)
and drop it in your deploy directory and POOF it's there.  It's nice
when the servlet engine actually uses the libs you define and not its
own first as the default ... isn't that in the spec ... and will be
available in Tomcat at some point.

If you want any extra libs in cocoon-2.1 you add them in the lib tree,
add them to jars.xml and the cocoon build adds them to the Manifest ...
Jetty/Jboss just eats 'em up in the right place.

I'm off to look for Kudo JDO (which hopefully follows the ODMG JDO and
not Sun's) ... how does this rank against Castor or Jakarta-OJB ?

Cheers,
Thor HW

On Saturday, February 8, 2003, at 11:42  AM, Robert Simmons wrote:

Hy, all;

During the last months of activities i learned a lot from this 
mailing
list. while i followed the discussions i started getting my
development
environment a bit up to date.  I plan to setup a Wiki page on this
theme. Although this may be a bit off topic, it still would be great,
if someone could comment on this issue.


the tools collection

Here is what i have put together so far. Of course this is driven
at least partially by what i do for my customers...

free tools:
1.) OS: linux and solaris (maybe a mater of taste)

Go linux. Instead of spending money on licenses, you spend money on
support
contracts. Cheaper. In addition, Solaris is primitive compared to
Linux.


2.) apache 1.3.26 (mod_jk2, mod_SSL)


Duh ;)


3.) tomcat 4.1.18


Yes, but you can go one step further. Get JBoss with integrated
tomcat. JBoss
will handle all sorty of nasty things like deploying to clusters for
you. As
a bonus, you get the ability to integrate with EJB based programs.


4.) cocoon-2.0.4


2.1 Hopefully soon!


5.) eclipse


See my previous message about eclopse vs netbeans.


6.) sunbow eclipse tools (xml/sitemap)


URL ?


7.) ant


I have 15 million of them in my damn appartment, want a few? Oh ...
you mean
Jakarta ant? Ok, nevermind then. =) Im currently looking at Krysalis'
extensions to ant. http://www.krysalis.org/centipede/quickstart.html



8.) java-1.3.1 (sun JDK on all platforms)


No no .. 1.4.1!! In 1.4 there are so many COOOL things that I
couldnt
live without anymore.


9.) Secureway LDAP Server (i'll switch to Open LDAP soon)


Im an LDAP idiot so Ill trust you there.

Tools you didnt talk  about:

CVS - Use it over clearcase. its powerful, free, and a pleasure to 
use.
BugZilla - Great program! Lousy looking interface. We should start
a
project to port
it to cocoon. =) However bugzilla is a great and free
bugtracking system.

commercial tools:
10.) clearcase cms (see below)


Garbage.


11.) xml-spy


Good but confusing.


12.) several DB-Systems


all you need is Mysql baby.

Ones you didnt talk about:

13) Together control center. If you can afford it, it absolutely kills
any
other IDE on the planet.
14) eXcelon Stylus Studio. A great XML editor. It has a bonus of being
easy
to use and allot less confusing than XML Spy.
15) User editors for creating static content. (FrameMaker? OpenOffice?
Im
still working on this one)
16) Kodo JDO. Dont leave home without it. All that nasty 

Re: A note about the best(?) (cocoon-) development environment ...

2003-02-08 Thread Robert Simmons
Sun JDO JSR-12.


- Original Message -
From: Thor Heinrichs-Wolpert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 10:22 PM
Subject: Re: A note about the best(?) (cocoon-) development environment ...


Which JDO?  The ODMG JDO (like what Castor uses) or the after class
generation muck about that is in the Sun JDO?

Jetty has been using JMX long before Tomcat, it fully supports the spec
... and I'm thinking it supports it before the reference implementation
does (like the classpath stuff).  Is it superior, I can't say for sure
(but it is the default / preferred servlet engine in JBoss.  I like it
because it takes me less screwing around with jar clashes between
applications and what the server itself uses (making me less dependent
on their support cycle and changes in where the JDK wants things).

Cheers,
Thor HW

On Saturday, February 8, 2003, at 01:05  PM, Robert Simmons wrote:

 I use JBoss but not jetty. Are you saying the Jetty-JBoss combo is
 superior
 to the Tomcat-JBoss combo? If so, I will definitely go try it. Perhaps
 it
 will fix my classpath in XSP issue. Bugzilla Reference:
 http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=16580.

 Kodo JDO is an implementation of the JDO specification and MORE. It
 basically
 rules. Go through the tutorials and you will love it. Create an object
 model
 using your favorite problem domain. Then create the JDO mapping file
 (raw XML
 or with IDE plug-in) and then just say uhh, make a schema for me and
 it
 just does it. Its amazing! No more screwing around with persistence and
 schema manipulation.

 I have the commercial version of that product and will be talking
 about using
 it in the book that I am writing.

 -- Robert



 - Original Message -
 From: Thor Heinrichs-Wolpert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 9:47 PM
 Subject: Re: A note about the best(?) (cocoon-) development
 environment ...


 Robert:

 Have a look at Jetty, or JBoss/Jetty (aka JBossWeb).  No nasty must
 copy things to endorsed directories, etc.).  You take Cocoon (2.0/2.1)
 and drop it in your deploy directory and POOF it's there.  It's nice
 when the servlet engine actually uses the libs you define and not its
 own first as the default ... isn't that in the spec ... and will be
 available in Tomcat at some point.

 If you want any extra libs in cocoon-2.1 you add them in the lib tree,
 add them to jars.xml and the cocoon build adds them to the Manifest ...
 Jetty/Jboss just eats 'em up in the right place.

 I'm off to look for Kudo JDO (which hopefully follows the ODMG JDO and
 not Sun's) ... how does this rank against Castor or Jakarta-OJB ?

 Cheers,
 Thor HW

 On Saturday, February 8, 2003, at 11:42  AM, Robert Simmons wrote:

 Hy, all;

 During the last months of activities i learned a lot from this
 mailing
 list. while i followed the discussions i started getting my
 development
 environment a bit up to date.  I plan to setup a Wiki page on this
 theme. Although this may be a bit off topic, it still would be great,
 if someone could comment on this issue.


 the tools collection
 
 Here is what i have put together so far. Of course this is driven
 at least partially by what i do for my customers...

 free tools:
 1.) OS: linux and solaris (maybe a mater of taste)

 Go linux. Instead of spending money on licenses, you spend money on
 support
 contracts. Cheaper. In addition, Solaris is primitive compared to
 Linux.

 2.) apache 1.3.26 (mod_jk2, mod_SSL)

 Duh ;)

 3.) tomcat 4.1.18

 Yes, but you can go one step further. Get JBoss with integrated
 tomcat. JBoss
 will handle all sorty of nasty things like deploying to clusters for
 you. As
 a bonus, you get the ability to integrate with EJB based programs.

 4.) cocoon-2.0.4

 2.1 Hopefully soon!

 5.) eclipse

 See my previous message about eclopse vs netbeans.

 6.) sunbow eclipse tools (xml/sitemap)

 URL ?

 7.) ant

 I have 15 million of them in my damn appartment, want a few? Oh ...
 you mean
 Jakarta ant? Ok, nevermind then. =) Im currently looking at Krysalis'
 extensions to ant. http://www.krysalis.org/centipede/quickstart.html


 8.) java-1.3.1 (sun JDK on all platforms)

 No no .. 1.4.1!! In 1.4 there are so many COOOL things that I
 couldnt
 live without anymore.

 9.) Secureway LDAP Server (i'll switch to Open LDAP soon)

 Im an LDAP idiot so Ill trust you there.

 Tools you didnt talk  about:

 CVS - Use it over clearcase. its powerful, free, and a pleasure to
 use.
 BugZilla - Great program! Lousy looking interface. We should start
 a
 project to port
 it to cocoon. =) However bugzilla is a great and free
 bugtracking system.

 commercial tools:
 10.) clearcase cms (see below)

 Garbage.

 11.) xml-spy

 Good but confusing.

 12.) several DB-Systems

 all you need is Mysql baby.

 Ones you didnt talk about:

 13) Together control center. If you can afford it, it absolutely kills
 any
 other 

RE: converting HTML to PDF

2003-02-08 Thread Afshartous, Nick
Title: RE: converting HTML to PDF







 From: Mike Haarman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]


 Antennae House, home of a famous formatting objects processor, has an
 HTML2FO.xsl on their site which is a good starting point for a stylesheet
 to handle this transformation.

Thanks Mike. I did a search and came accross a few things including
HTML2FO at SourceForge and another one that handles the HTML output
that Word generates 


 http://www-uk.hpl.hp.com/people/fabgia/wh2fo/wh2fo.html



Didn't see Antennae House so if you have a link please forward, thanks.


 Nick




On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Afshartous, Nick wrote:



 Hi,

 I was wondering if anyone has experience in converting HTML to
 PDF ? For instance does anyone have a stylesheet to handle
 the formatting of nested tables and CSS ?

 Thanks for any tips or pointers to resources.

 --
 Nick

Mike Haarman
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Instal Cocoon on Mac OS X

2003-02-08 Thread Ross



I have installed the tomcat server on 
MacOSX and it works fine. I downloaded cocoon and put the cocoon.war 
file in webapps. I stopped and started tomcat and it created the cocoon folder 
in webapps. When I go to http://localhost:8080/cocoon the 
browserdoes not respondfor a long time. Do I have to move some .jar 
files?

Anyassistance is appreciated.

Thanks,

Ross.