Re: Fastest Platform (softwarewise)?
Phil Blake wrote: Hi, We run apache/tomcat/cocoon on 3 server platforms, Linux, AIX and MacOS X. Linux on a dual PIII 550, OSX on a PPC-G4 450 and AIX on a 4x250MHz PPC-G3. Bang for buck, a G4 running OSX wins hands down. However, believe it or not, the dual PIII comes in second (AIX don't come close... too expensive for real consideration and Windows is not a server operating system in practice, only in marketing). That's interesting, I didn't think OSX would come out on top--maybe second though. As to AIX, and this goes for Solaris as well, they are very expensive--so bang for the buck goes down. How about raw performance though? Which comes out on top? The Dual PIII was about 10% more than the G4 (after adding SCSI) and about 70-80% the performance. So for 10% more cost you gain 70-80% more speed. That is a reasonable tradeoff. What kinds of tests did you run? How does each one scale (as you add more clients). How many simultaneous connections can each platform handle before you reach saturation? Although theory has it that a G4 500MHz has about the same performance as a PIII 1.5GHz (ie triple the performance), I've found that it's really more like double the performance, not triple. Careful there. Clockrate != performance. When all things are equal (i.e. chip architecture, design, etc.), then clockrate is effective to determine relative performance increases. However, the G4 and the PIII have very different architectures. This is true of the PIII and the P4, and the P4 and the K7. In that case 1.5GHz in all three processors would have very different performance results. As far as I know, the G4 is not capable of the high clockrates, so it makes up for it with an efficient pipeline. The pentium series was designed for high clockrates. - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fastest Platform (softwarewise)?
On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 07:25:07AM +1000, Phil Blake wrote: Hi, We run apache/tomcat/cocoon on 3 server platforms, Linux, AIX and MacOS X. Linux on a dual PIII 550, OSX on a PPC-G4 450 and AIX on a 4x250MHz PPC-G3. Bang for buck, a G4 running OSX wins hands down. However, believe it or not, the dual PIII comes in second (AIX don't come close... too expensive for real consideration and Windows is not a server operating system in practice, only in marketing). The Dual PIII was about 10% more than the G4 (after adding SCSI) and about 70-80% the performance. Although theory has it that a G4 500MHz has about the same performance as a PIII 1.5GHz (ie triple the performance), I've found that it's really more like double the performance, not triple. Like I said I was thinking more in Terms of which JDK (IBM, Blackdown,...) and which Java-Version. I can not move away from Linux. Cheers, Konstantin -- Konstantin Agouros - NetAge Solutions, Dingolfinger Str. 6, 81673 Muenchen Tel.: 089 666584-0, Fax: 089 666584-11, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Black holes are, where god divided by zero. - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Fastest Platform (softwarewise)?
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From: Berin Loritsch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 23 October 2001 2:17 pm
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Subject: Re: Fastest Platform (softwarewise)?
Phil Blake wrote:
Hi,
We run apache/tomcat/cocoon on 3 server platforms, Linux,
AIX and MacOS
X.
Linux on a dual PIII 550, OSX on a PPC-G4 450 and AIX on a 4x250MHz
PPC-G3.
Bang for buck, a G4 running OSX wins hands down. However,
believe it or
not, the dual PIII comes in second (AIX don't come close... too
expensive for real consideration and Windows is not a
server operating
system in practice, only in marketing).
That's interesting, I didn't think OSX would come out on
top--maybe second
though. As to AIX, and this goes for Solaris as well, they are very
expensive--so bang for the buck goes down. How about raw performance
though? Which comes out on top?
The Dual PIII was about 10% more than the G4 (after adding SCSI) and
about 70-80% the performance.
So for 10% more cost you gain 70-80% more speed. That is a reasonable
tradeoff. What kinds of tests did you run? How does each one scale
(as you add more clients). How many simultaneous connections can each
platform handle before you reach saturation?
I don't think they ment that it was 70-80% *better*. I think that it was
70-80% of the original performance :{
Although theory has it that a G4 500MHz has about the same
performance
as a PIII 1.5GHz (ie triple the performance), I've found that it's
really more like double the performance, not triple.
Careful there. Clockrate != performance. When all things are equal
(i.e. chip architecture, design, etc.), then clockrate is effective
to determine relative performance increases. However, the G4 and the
PIII have very different architectures. This is true of the PIII and
the P4, and the P4 and the K7. In that case 1.5GHz in all three
processors would have very different performance results. As far as
I know, the G4 is not capable of the high clockrates, so it makes up
for it with an efficient pipeline. The pentium series was designed
for high clockrates.
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RE: Fastest Platform (softwarewise)?
Hi Guys check out http://www.volano.com/report/ Regards Mark -Original Message- From: Konstantin Agouros [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 3:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Fastest Platform (softwarewise)? On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 07:25:07AM +1000, Phil Blake wrote: Hi, We run apache/tomcat/cocoon on 3 server platforms, Linux, AIX and MacOS X. Linux on a dual PIII 550, OSX on a PPC-G4 450 and AIX on a 4x250MHz PPC-G3. Bang for buck, a G4 running OSX wins hands down. However, believe it or not, the dual PIII comes in second (AIX don't come close... too expensive for real consideration and Windows is not a server operating system in practice, only in marketing). The Dual PIII was about 10% more than the G4 (after adding SCSI) and about 70-80% the performance. Although theory has it that a G4 500MHz has about the same performance as a PIII 1.5GHz (ie triple the performance), I've found that it's really more like double the performance, not triple. Like I said I was thinking more in Terms of which JDK (IBM, Blackdown,...) and which Java-Version. I can not move away from Linux. Cheers, Konstantin -- Konstantin Agouros - NetAge Solutions, Dingolfinger Str. 6, 81673 Muenchen Tel.: 089 666584-0, Fax: 089 666584-11, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Black holes are, where god divided by zero. - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fastest Platform (softwarewise)?
Konstantin Agouros wrote: Like I said I was thinking more in Terms of which JDK (IBM, Blackdown,...) and which Java-Version. I can not move away from Linux. You may have to make your choice on which is the most stable for your platform. To that end, I recommend the Blackdown JDK. - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fastest Platform (softwarewise)?
Hi, We run apache/tomcat/cocoon on 3 server platforms, Linux, AIX and MacOS X. Linux on a dual PIII 550, OSX on a PPC-G4 450 and AIX on a 4x250MHz PPC-G3. Bang for buck, a G4 running OSX wins hands down. However, believe it or not, the dual PIII comes in second (AIX don't come close... too expensive for real consideration and Windows is not a server operating system in practice, only in marketing). The Dual PIII was about 10% more than the G4 (after adding SCSI) and about 70-80% the performance. Although theory has it that a G4 500MHz has about the same performance as a PIII 1.5GHz (ie triple the performance), I've found that it's really more like double the performance, not triple. Phil - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
