Re: Cocoon vs AxKit

2002-01-17 Thread Peter Royal

On Thursday 17 January 2002 10:05 am, Matt Sergeant wrote:
 It's the other way around: AxKit is much more akin to Cocoon2. We had a
 sitemap concept before they did, and while we still allow xml-stylesheet
 PI's, it's not using the Cocoon1 reactor pattern that is so difficult to

oops, my bad. AxKit had more power under the hood than I realized :) I only 
ever used PI's to direct the flow.
-pete

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Re: Cocoon vs AxKit

2002-01-17 Thread Matt Sergeant

Today, I saw this...

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On Wednesday 16 January 2002 02:12 pm, Michael A Nachbaur wrote:
 rant type=biased
 Essentially, AxKit is Cocoon for mod_perl, but it goes quite a bit farther
 than that.  Just as Java takes a strict approach to programming (in terms
 of typing, OO, etc), Perl is more flexible in how you can use it.  So,
 built around that idea, AxKit is a flexible alternative to Cocoon.

Also, AxKit is more akin to Cocoon v1 last time I looked (6-8mo ago).
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It's the other way around: AxKit is much more akin to Cocoon2. We had a
sitemap concept before they did, and while we still allow xml-stylesheet
PI's, it's not using the Cocoon1 reactor pattern that is so difficult to
develop for - the pipeline is determined only from the originating
file/request (however it is modifiable mid pipeline if you absolutely have
to).

I think from general feelings and comments from others that AxKit is also a
fair bit more lightweight than Cocoon, and faster (yes, even than Cocoon2,
which didn't do *that* much for performance unfortunately according to my
readings of cocoon-dev). Though admittedly I would welcome the opportunity
to do what the Cocoon people did for Cocoon2 and do a complete re-write (we
all make design mistakes that we regret 2 years on :-)

Hope that helps,

Sincerely, Matt.
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Re: Cocoon vs AxKit

2002-01-17 Thread Robert Koberg

I do think this is one of the flaws of axkit - lack of documentation, though
the developpers are extremely helpful.  When I initially looked at axkit I
only saw that it worked with PIs. The only way I found out was bad-mouthing
it and being corrected - not a good way to do documentation... :)

Perhaps this has changed (with it on apache) and it is worth another look?

best,
-Rob




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 On Thursday 17 January 2002 10:05 am, Matt Sergeant wrote:
  It's the other way around: AxKit is much more akin to Cocoon2. We had a
  sitemap concept before they did, and while we still allow xml-stylesheet
  PI's, it's not using the Cocoon1 reactor pattern that is so difficult to

 oops, my bad. AxKit had more power under the hood than I realized :) I
only
 ever used PI's to direct the flow.
 -pete

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