Re: XSLT transformations with Cocoon

2001-12-10 Thread David Rosenstrauch

I'm not sure I understand your question, so I'll try to answer as best I can:

* Is it possible to use cocoon to do an XSLT transformation with the output being XML?

Yes.map:serialize type=xml/


* Is it possible to use cocoon to do an XSLT transformation with the output being HTML?

Yes.map:serialize type=html/


* Is it possible to use cocoon to do an XSLT transformation with the output being HTML 
tags, but in an XML format (i.e., in an XHTML format)?

Yes.map:serialize type=xml/


HTH.  If I didn't answer your question, then please write back and clarify.


DR



At 03:57 PM 12/10/01 +0100, you wrote:
Hallo,

I find myself in front of the task to process xml data through an xsl(t)
stylesheet to a different xml.
It is possible to do that using Cocoon [2] as if it where supposed to
produce an html output.

Before I embark in using Cocoon (instead of, for instance, SAXON) I'D like
to ask professional Cocoon users whether you practice this way of
transformation, whether you practice it with success and whether there are
limitations to this kind of (ab-) use of Cocoon.

Regards,

Matthias


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RE: XSLT transformations with Cocoon

2001-12-10 Thread Matthias Fischer

That was real quick, David. Thanks.

I'll clarify:

1. In Tomcat [4] we have set the destination type to map:serialize
type=xml/, as you have suggested.
The following problems have arisen:
- Internet Explorer gets into Cocoon's way and wants to open the xml file
when I click onto it to start the transformation. We haven't found a way to
stop IE doing that.
- Alternatively, we have set Tomcat to map:serialize type=html/,
producing an html output with the option of (a) viewing the source code, (b)
copy it to the clipboard, (c) paste it into an empty xml file using some XML
editor, (d) saving the xml file in the xml editor. This (a)..(d) does not
seem satisfactory at all.

We need the xml output as an xml file, to further process it.

Therefore, we'd prefer to
- set the destination type to map:serialize type=xml/
- click on the xml file or any other destination file from inside the
browser
- have our xml editor open the xml file produced by the transformation or,
alternatively, view the xml sourcecode directly in the browser or,
alternatively, have an xml file dropped unviewed somewhere in a specified
destination folder.

Is this possible, and if it is, how?

2. The other question I tried to get over before was this: When we embarked
in FOP transformation we didn't expect so many problems linked to the
processor. However, we got lots of problems with non-existing or even wrong
documentation, non-working functions or functions working under some very
specific conditions. Is the state of realization of XML2XML with Cocoon [2]
satisfactory under this aspect? Or would anybody advise me to use rather a
different processor?

Thanks for your answer(s) in advance,

Matthias


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From: David Rosenstrauch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 4:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: XSLT transformations with Cocoon


I'm not sure I understand your question, so I'll try to answer as best I
can:

* Is it possible to use cocoon to do an XSLT transformation with the output
being XML?
Yes.map:serialize type=xml/

[...]

DR


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RE: XSLT transformations with Cocoon (added clearer formulation)

2001-12-10 Thread Matthias Fischer

That was real quick, David. Thanks.

I'll clarify:

1. In Tomcat [4] we have set the destination type to map:serialize
type=xml/, as you have suggested.
The following problems have arisen:
- Internet Explorer gets into Cocoon's way and wants to open the xml file
when I click onto it to start the transformation. We haven't found a way to
stop IE doing that.
- Alternatively, we have set Tomcat to map:serialize type=html/,
producing an html output with the option of (a) viewing the source code, (b)
copy it to the clipboard, (c) paste it into an empty xml file using some XML
editor, (d) saving the xml file in the xml editor. This (a)..(d) does not
seem satisfactory at all.

We need the xml output as an xml file, to further process it.

Therefore, we'd prefer to
- set the destination type to map:serialize type=xml/
- click on the xml file or any other destination file from inside the
browser TO START THE TRANSFORMATION
- have our xml editor open the xml file produced by the transformation or,
alternatively, view the xml sourcecode directly in the browser or,
alternatively, have an xml file dropped unviewed somewhere in a specified
destination folder.

Is this possible, and if it is, how?

2. The other question I tried to get over before was this: When we embarked
in FOP transformation we didn't expect so many problems linked to the
processor. However, we got lots of problems with non-existing or even wrong
documentation, non-working functions or functions working under some very
specific conditions. Is the state of realization of XML2XML with Cocoon [2]
satisfactory under this aspect? Or would anybody advise me to use rather a
different processor?

Thanks for your answer(s) in advance,

Matthias


-Original Message-
From: David Rosenstrauch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 4:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: XSLT transformations with Cocoon


I'm not sure I understand your question, so I'll try to answer as best I
can:

* Is it possible to use cocoon to do an XSLT transformation with the output
being XML?
Yes.map:serialize type=xml/

[...]

DR


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RE: XSLT transformations with Cocoon

2001-12-10 Thread Matthias Fischer

Jörn,

what do mean by sitemap? (Please tell me the German term, maybe I'll
understand it better...)

Matthias


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The browser shows the xml file becuase of its content type text/xml.
If you change that (you can do so in the sitemap) to application/x-whatever
your browser should ask you to save or view it. But that's not Cocoon
specific.

[...]

JOERN


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Re: XSLT transformations with Cocoon

2001-12-10 Thread Mauricio Souza Lima

sitemap is the configuration file located in:
$TOMCAT_HOME/webapps/cocoon/sitemap.xmap

It defines the pipelines and the components of it.

Have you try to rigth-click the xml that IE shows and click in
view-source to see the xml file the cocoon returns?


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Matthias Fischer wrote:
 
 Jörn,
 
 what do mean by sitemap? (Please tell me the German term, maybe I'll
 understand it better...)
 
 Matthias
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jörn Heid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 5:08 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: AW: XSLT transformations with Cocoon (added clearer
 formulation)
 
 The browser shows the xml file becuase of its content type text/xml.
 If you change that (you can do so in the sitemap) to application/x-whatever
 your browser should ask you to save or view it. But that's not Cocoon
 specific.
 
 [...]
 
 JOERN
 
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