Re: [CODE4LIB] COinS

2019-03-20 Thread Albert Bertram 
Thanks for asking Ben,

Yeah, we looked at other microformats.  I don't think RDFa came up on our
radar for this use case, but the group I work with has implemented that for
other projects.  Our specific narrow target was "something zotero can parse
"
from the html of a web page, and we happened to already be generating
openurls for a number of our records. So COinS was the most expedient
option.  Other options that looked like they would work had been unapi, or
extending the Zotero csl-json translator to examine script tags within web
pages.

Best wishes,

Albert


On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 4:48 AM Companjen, B.A. <
b.a.compan...@library.leidenuniv.nl> wrote:

> That's interesting! I haven't got any experience with implementing COinS,
> but I would think that embedded microdata or RDFa is as easy to implement
> and has a wider reach (i.e. search engines pick it up too). Have you
> considered microdata or RDFa?
>
> Ben
>
> On 19-03-19, 17:13, "Code for Libraries on behalf of Albert Bertram" <
> CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG on behalf of bertr...@umich.edu> wrote:
>
> We're going to be adding COinS to our discovery search engine because
> it's
> custom and Zotero doesn't pickup our records automatically.  COinS was
> the
> most cost-effective option in terms of developer time and long-term
> maintenance.
>
> Notably, there didn't appear to be translator for json encoded metadata
> like ld-json csl-json that would discover records embedded in script
> tags.
>
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 11:47 AM Kyle Banerjee <
> kyle.baner...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > If you have to ask, you have your answer :)
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:00 AM Bigwood, David <
> dbigw...@lpi.usra.edu>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Are COinS still of any value? Or should I clean-up my pages by
> getting
> > rid
> > > of them? I haven't heard them mentioned in years.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > David Bigwood
> > > dbigw...@lpi.usra.edu
> > > Regional Planetary Image Facility/Library
> > > Lunar and Planetary Institute
> > > https://www.facebook.com/RPIFN/
> > > https://repository.hou.usra.edu/
> > >
> >
>
>
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] COinS

2019-03-20 Thread Companjen, B.A. 
That's interesting! I haven't got any experience with implementing COinS, but I 
would think that embedded microdata or RDFa is as easy to implement and has a 
wider reach (i.e. search engines pick it up too). Have you considered microdata 
or RDFa?

Ben

On 19-03-19, 17:13, "Code for Libraries on behalf of Albert Bertram" 
 wrote:

We're going to be adding COinS to our discovery search engine because it's
custom and Zotero doesn't pickup our records automatically.  COinS was the
most cost-effective option in terms of developer time and long-term
maintenance.

Notably, there didn't appear to be translator for json encoded metadata
like ld-json csl-json that would discover records embedded in script tags.

On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 11:47 AM Kyle Banerjee 
wrote:

> If you have to ask, you have your answer :)
>
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:00 AM Bigwood, David 
> wrote:
>
> > Are COinS still of any value? Or should I clean-up my pages by getting
> rid
> > of them? I haven't heard them mentioned in years.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > David Bigwood
> > dbigw...@lpi.usra.edu
> > Regional Planetary Image Facility/Library
> > Lunar and Planetary Institute
> > https://www.facebook.com/RPIFN/
> > https://repository.hou.usra.edu/
> >
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] COinS

2019-03-19 Thread Junior Tidal 
Hi all,

code4Lib Journal still uses COinS in the bibliography/references section of 
articles. 

Best,
Junior

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Are COinS still of any value? Or should I clean-up my pages by getting rid of 
them? I haven't heard them mentioned in years.

Thanks,
David Bigwood
dbigw...@lpi.usra.edu<mailto:dbigw...@lpi.usra.edu>
Regional Planetary Image Facility/Library Lunar and Planetary Institute 
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Re: [CODE4LIB] COinS

2019-03-19 Thread Albert Bertram 
We're going to be adding COinS to our discovery search engine because it's
custom and Zotero doesn't pickup our records automatically.  COinS was the
most cost-effective option in terms of developer time and long-term
maintenance.

Notably, there didn't appear to be translator for json encoded metadata
like ld-json csl-json that would discover records embedded in script tags.

On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 11:47 AM Kyle Banerjee 
wrote:

> If you have to ask, you have your answer :)
>
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:00 AM Bigwood, David 
> wrote:
>
> > Are COinS still of any value? Or should I clean-up my pages by getting
> rid
> > of them? I haven't heard them mentioned in years.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > David Bigwood
> > dbigw...@lpi.usra.edu
> > Regional Planetary Image Facility/Library
> > Lunar and Planetary Institute
> > https://www.facebook.com/RPIFN/
> > https://repository.hou.usra.edu/
> >
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] COinS

2019-03-19 Thread Edward Summers 
I think that Zotero still looks for COinS, but understands a lot more? If you 
drop your COinS markup you may want to make sure that you have some other 
metadata in there for Zotero (and tools like it) to use?

> On Mar 19, 2019, at 11:45 AM, Kyle Banerjee  wrote:
> 
> If you have to ask, you have your answer :)
> 
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:00 AM Bigwood, David 
> wrote:
> 
>> Are COinS still of any value? Or should I clean-up my pages by getting rid
>> of them? I haven't heard them mentioned in years.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> David Bigwood
>> dbigw...@lpi.usra.edu
>> Regional Planetary Image Facility/Library
>> Lunar and Planetary Institute
>> https://www.facebook.com/RPIFN/
>> https://repository.hou.usra.edu/
>> 



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Re: [CODE4LIB] COinS

2019-03-19 Thread Kyle Banerjee 
If you have to ask, you have your answer :)

On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:00 AM Bigwood, David 
wrote:

> Are COinS still of any value? Or should I clean-up my pages by getting rid
> of them? I haven't heard them mentioned in years.
>
> Thanks,
> David Bigwood
> dbigw...@lpi.usra.edu
> Regional Planetary Image Facility/Library
> Lunar and Planetary Institute
> https://www.facebook.com/RPIFN/
> https://repository.hou.usra.edu/
>

[CODE4LIB] COinS

2019-03-19 Thread Bigwood, David 
Are COinS still of any value? Or should I clean-up my pages by getting rid of 
them? I haven't heard them mentioned in years.

Thanks,
David Bigwood
dbigw...@lpi.usra.edu
Regional Planetary Image Facility/Library
Lunar and Planetary Institute
https://www.facebook.com/RPIFN/
https://repository.hou.usra.edu/