Re: [CODE4LIB] The Berman Catalog

2008-06-25 Thread Tim Spalding
 Security measures can be set in place to prevent
 the scenario you describe.

Is the state of Minnesota or the city of Minneapolis able to copyright
its work? Certainly this is impossible on the Federal level. But state
laws vary. What would a FOIA request produce?

 Tagging systems (or pop culture cataloging) such as those
 used by Amazon.com were consciously or unconsciously
 inspired by Berman's work,

I don't think that's so. As the inventor of the first such system for
books, I can say that I was not inspired by Berman's work, impressive
as I now know it to be. Nor I suspect was Joshua Schachter, who
designed tagging for Del.icio.us.

It is an unfortunate fact that information technology has largely
bypassed librarianship. One reason for this is that librarians have
convinced themelves that their work should not be public—that the
taxpayer-funded work of a public library should be kept under
restrictive terms.

 but although they are dynamic
 and current, they are simplisitic and undisciplined...we've
 got a sort of highly personalized marginally literate chaos
 where 5 people can all tag the same item differently
 and the sixth person who may search for that item may not search for it
 using any of the tags the previous 5 assigned.

Do you speak from any experience in this topic? For example, have you
compared systems in reality, or is this just a theoretical opinion
about reality?

I don't think marginally literate applies to LibraryThing's tagging,
generally. Nor do I think LibraryThing's 37 million tags are more
likely to yield no hits than one man's subject system. Anyway, if
regular human beings are simplistic and undisciplined when they tag
things, they are also so when they search for them.

I think there is a place for both formal subject systems—and the more
the better—and informal tagging systems. Having spent a few years
carefully comparing the results, however, and seeing many success, I
am weary of those who, to paraphrase Clay Shirky, refuse to see it
working in practice, because they already know it doesn't work in
theory.

 Berman's system is dynamic and current but also
 finely, structured and highly disciplined, he's
 created a great cognitive map of interconnected
 associations that bring order to chaos and clarifies
 and defines issues evolving in the culture...

 you could say a good search engine does that
 but his brain worked and still works in a more
 exquisitely sophisticated and powerful way than
 any search engine I've used.

I appreciate that you admire the man, but this is an almost mystical idea.

 As to someone using his work for profit...get real
 no one besides ourselves has a clue
 to the value and usefulness of Berman's work,
 and they don't care to find out...and they
 certainly would not make the effort to
 deconstruct it and turn it into a Twitter
 version of a catalog, especially since
 they can't profit from it.

I consider that a challenge!

 There's no monetary gold to be harvested from
 Berman's work...there's treasure of another
 kind!

It seems to me that any system useful for finding things has value of
every sort imaginable, including financial.

Tim


[CODE4LIB] ssh tunneling through a mysql dsn

2008-06-25 Thread Eric Lease Morgan

Is there anyway to support SSH tunneling through a MySQL DSN?

I would like to open a database connection to remote host through  
Perl's DBI. The remote database is MySQL, but the server hosting the  
database does not allow outside connections. Instead the systems  
administrators suggest first setting up a local SSH tunnel, and then  
making connections to the host. Something this:


  $ ssh -T -L 3306:mysql.example.org:3306 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  $ mysql -h mysql.example.org

Alas, this option does not work for two reasons. First, I get prompted  
for my username after the first command and my shell crashes. Second,  
and more importantly, port 3306 is already in use on my local machine.  
The whole thing seems weird anyway.


Maybe I can configure tunneling in the DBD::mysql DSN? I see that  
DBD::mysql supports SSH, but I see no tunneling option:


  use DBI;
  $database = 'foo';
  $user = 'bar';
  $password = 'baz';
  $host = 'mysql.example.org';
  $dsn  = DBI:mysql:database=$database;host=$host;mysql_ssl=1;
  $dbh  = DBI-connect( $dsn, $user, $password );

Am I missing something, or is there some trickery I can use with the  
definition of $host and/or $database?


--
Eric Lease Morgan
Head, Digital Access and Information Architecture Department
Hesburgh Libraries, University of Notre Dame

(574) 631-8604


Re: [CODE4LIB] WorldCat API account

2008-06-25 Thread Roy Tennant
The WorldCat API is not yet in general release. It is presently being beta
tested by invited developers, many of whom (if not all) are on this list.
Thus the confusion. Sorry, but stay tuned. A good way to do that is to sign
up on the WorldCat Developer's Network listserv. A link to the signup page
can be found on this page:

http://worldcat.org/devnet/

Thanks,
Roy 


On 6/25/08 6/25/08 € 8:40 AM, Yitzchak Schaffer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Greetings CODE4LIBers:
 
 Does anyone know how to get a test account for the WorldCat API?  The
 wiki, last I checked, instructed to contact OCLC, but my e-mail to
 their generic address yielded no response.
 
 Thanks,

-- 


Re: [CODE4LIB] ssh tunneling through a mysql dsn

2008-06-25 Thread Cloutman, David
There was a quick recipe for doing key based SSH tunneling in the
January 2008 issue of Linux Journal.


---
David Cloutman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Electronic Services Librarian
Marin County Free Library 

-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Nate Vack
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 8:21 AM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] ssh tunneling through a mysql dsn


On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 7:59 AM, Eric Lease Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Is there anyway to support SSH tunneling through a MySQL DSN?

 I would like to open a database connection to remote host through
Perl's
 DBI. The remote database is MySQL, but the server hosting the database
does
 not allow outside connections. Instead the systems administrators
suggest
 first setting up a local SSH tunnel, and then making connections to
the
 host. Something this:

  $ ssh -T -L 3306:mysql.example.org:3306 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  $ mysql -h mysql.example.org

 Alas, this option does not work for two reasons. First, I get prompted
for
 my username after the first command and my shell crashes. Second, and
more
 importantly, port 3306 is already in use on my local machine. The
whole
 thing seems weird anyway.

Yeah -- this is (probably) the way you want to do it, though. You'll
need to:

* Set up SSH keys such that building the tunnel doesn't prompt for a
password
* Run the local end of the tunnel on a free port
* Configure your local client to talk to the local end of the tunnel

Cheers,
-Nate

Email Disclaimer: http://www.co.marin.ca.us/nav/misc/EmailDisclaimer.cfm


Re: [CODE4LIB] ssh tunneling through a mysql dsn

2008-06-25 Thread Birkin James Diana

On Jun 25, 2008, at 8:59 AM, Eric Lease Morgan wrote:


Is there anyway to support SSH tunneling through a MySQL DSN?


Not sure if this is exactly relevant, but I used to need to access a  
remote mysql database not open to internet access, and came to love  
ssh tunneling. Some notes:


http://bspace.us/notes/entries/ssh-tunneling-notes/

Also, for a different reason, I needed to handle passwordless logins.  
This might be of some use:


http://bspace.us/notes/entries/passwordless-logins/

---
Birkin James Diana
Programmer, Integrated Technology Services
Brown University Library
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: [CODE4LIB] ssh tunneling through a mysql dsn

2008-06-25 Thread Steve Oberg
Not sure if I'm understanding Eric's original scenario correctly but...This
setup of needing to support SSH tunneling through to an Oracle database is
exactly what we have setup in my library using SecureCRT (
http://www.vandyke.com/products/securecrt/).  I think this software is quite
useful and supports keys and all the rest ( Set up SSH keys such that
building the tunnel doesn't prompt for a password, * Run the local end of
the tunnel on a free port, * Configure your local client to talk to the
local end of the tunnel).  This is an essential piece of our infrastructure
and we have SecureCRT set up on servers as well as individual PCs to ensure
secure transmission of information to sources outside our firewall.

Steve

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Birkin James Diana [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Jun 25, 2008, at 8:59 AM, Eric Lease Morgan wrote:

  Is there anyway to support SSH tunneling through a MySQL DSN?


 Not sure if this is exactly relevant, but I used to need to access a remote
 mysql database not open to internet access, and came to love ssh tunneling.
 Some notes:

 http://bspace.us/notes/entries/ssh-tunneling-notes/

 Also, for a different reason, I needed to handle passwordless logins. This
 might be of some use:

 http://bspace.us/notes/entries/passwordless-logins/

 ---
 Birkin James Diana
 Programmer, Integrated Technology Services
 Brown University Library
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [CODE4LIB] ssh tunneling through a mysql dsn

2008-06-25 Thread Cloutman, David
In a Windows environment, SSH tunneling can also be accomplished by
installing OpenSSH via Cygwin. 

http://www.cygwin.com/



---
David Cloutman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Electronic Services Librarian
Marin County Free Library 

-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Steve Oberg
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 10:05 AM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] ssh tunneling through a mysql dsn


Not sure if I'm understanding Eric's original scenario correctly
but...This
setup of needing to support SSH tunneling through to an Oracle database
is
exactly what we have setup in my library using SecureCRT (
http://www.vandyke.com/products/securecrt/).  I think this software is
quite
useful and supports keys and all the rest ( Set up SSH keys such that
building the tunnel doesn't prompt for a password, * Run the local end
of
the tunnel on a free port, * Configure your local client to talk to the
local end of the tunnel).  This is an essential piece of our
infrastructure
and we have SecureCRT set up on servers as well as individual PCs to
ensure
secure transmission of information to sources outside our firewall.

Steve

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Birkin James Diana
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Jun 25, 2008, at 8:59 AM, Eric Lease Morgan wrote:

  Is there anyway to support SSH tunneling through a MySQL DSN?


 Not sure if this is exactly relevant, but I used to need to access a
remote
 mysql database not open to internet access, and came to love ssh
tunneling.
 Some notes:

 http://bspace.us/notes/entries/ssh-tunneling-notes/

 Also, for a different reason, I needed to handle passwordless logins.
This
 might be of some use:

 http://bspace.us/notes/entries/passwordless-logins/

 ---
 Birkin James Diana
 Programmer, Integrated Technology Services
 Brown University Library
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Email Disclaimer: http://www.co.marin.ca.us/nav/misc/EmailDisclaimer.cfm


[CODE4LIB] alpha characters used for field names

2008-06-25 Thread Eric Lease Morgan

Are alpha characters used for field names valid in MARC records?

When we do dumps of MARC records our ILS often dumps them with FMT and  
CAT field names. So not only do I have glorious 246 fields and 100  
fields but I also have CAT fields and FMT fields. Are these features  
of my ILS -- extensions of the standard -- or really a part of MARC?  
Moreover, does something like Marc4J or MARC::Batch and friends deal  
with these alpha field names correctly?


--
Eric Lease Morgan


Re: [CODE4LIB] alpha characters used for field names

2008-06-25 Thread Steve Oberg
Eric,

This is definitely not a feature of MARC but rather a feature of your local
ILS (Aleph 500).  Those are local fields for which you'd need to make a
translation to a standard MARC field if you wanted to move that information
to another system that is based on MARC.

Steve

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Eric Lease Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Are alpha characters used for field names valid in MARC records?

 When we do dumps of MARC records our ILS often dumps them with FMT and CAT
 field names. So not only do I have glorious 246 fields and 100 fields but I
 also have CAT fields and FMT fields. Are these features of my ILS --
 extensions of the standard -- or really a part of MARC? Moreover, does
 something like Marc4J or MARC::Batch and friends deal with these alpha field
 names correctly?

 --
 Eric Lease Morgan



Re: [CODE4LIB] ssh tunneling through a mysql dsn

2008-06-25 Thread Genny Engel
Have you tried changing the source port to e.g. 3307 so you avoid the
conflict with your localhost MySQL port?
 
 
 
 
Genny Engel
Internet Librarian
Sonoma County Library
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
707 545-0831 x581
www.sonomalibrary.org
 


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/25/08 05:59AM 
Is there anyway to support SSH tunneling through a MySQL DSN?

I would like to open a database connection to remote host through  
Perl's DBI. The remote database is MySQL, but the server hosting the  
database does not allow outside connections. Instead the systems  
administrators suggest first setting up a local SSH tunnel, and then  
making connections to the host. Something this:

   $ ssh -T -L 3306:mysql.example.org:3306 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   $ mysql -h mysql.example.org

Alas, this option does not work for two reasons. First, I get prompted 

for my username after the first command and my shell crashes. Second, 

and more importantly, port 3306 is already in use on my local machine. 

The whole thing seems weird anyway.

Maybe I can configure tunneling in the DBD::mysql DSN? I see that  
DBD::mysql supports SSH, but I see no tunneling option:

   use DBI;
   $database = 'foo';
   $user = 'bar';
   $password = 'baz';
   $host = 'mysql.example.org';
   $dsn  = DBI:mysql:database=$database;host=$host;mysql_ssl=1;
   $dbh  = DBI-connect( $dsn, $user, $password );

Am I missing something, or is there some trickery I can use with the  
definition of $host and/or $database?

-- 
Eric Lease Morgan
Head, Digital Access and Information Architecture Department
Hesburgh Libraries, University of Notre Dame

(574) 631-8604


Re: [CODE4LIB] alpha characters used for field names

2008-06-25 Thread Bryan Baldus
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Eric Lease Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Moreover, does something like Marc4J or MARC::Batch and friends deal
 with these alpha field names correctly?

I believe the Perl modules MARC::Batch/MARC::Record accept records with 
alphabetic characters as tags. Searching alpha tags (without quotes) at The 
Mail Archive for Perl4Lib [1] retrieves 6 messages in what appear to be two 
threads.

[1] http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]q=alpha+tags

I hope this helps,

Bryan Baldus
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://home.inwave.com/eija


Re: [CODE4LIB] alpha characters used for field names

2008-06-25 Thread Casey Durfee
Why don't systems use the 900 fields for local stuff like this?  That's what
they're there for, right?

--Casey

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:23 PM, Steve Oberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Eric,

 This is definitely not a feature of MARC but rather a feature of your local
 ILS (Aleph 500).  Those are local fields for which you'd need to make a
 translation to a standard MARC field if you wanted to move that information
 to another system that is based on MARC.

 Steve

 On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Eric Lease Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Are alpha characters used for field names valid in MARC records?
 
  When we do dumps of MARC records our ILS often dumps them with FMT and
 CAT
  field names. So not only do I have glorious 246 fields and 100 fields but
 I
  also have CAT fields and FMT fields. Are these features of my ILS --
  extensions of the standard -- or really a part of MARC? Moreover, does
  something like Marc4J or MARC::Batch and friends deal with these alpha
 field
  names correctly?
 
  --
  Eric Lease Morgan
 



Re: [CODE4LIB] code4lib 2009

2008-06-25 Thread Ross Singer
Going back to the original question about keynotes, I think Sebastian
Hammer from IndexData would be an interesting choice.

-Ross.

On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 4:33 PM, jean rainwater
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mark the dates!
 Brown University is hosting code4lib 2009 which will take place at the
 Renaissance Providence Hotel from Monday, Feb 23 (preconference day)
 to Thursday, Feb 26.

 It's time to start a discussion of potential keynote speakers.  Ideas?

 Jean

 Jean Rainwater
 Co-Leader, Integrated Technology Services
 Brown University Library
 Providence, Rhode Island 02912
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [CODE4LIB] code4lib 2009

2008-06-25 Thread Phillips, Mark
I think Sebastian is a great suggestion.  He presented several times at UNT 
over the years and each presentation was well received by a broad range of 
listeners.  Also at code4lib he can get all geeky and such.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ross Singer
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 2:43 PM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] code4lib 2009

Going back to the original question about keynotes, I think Sebastian
Hammer from IndexData would be an interesting choice.

-Ross.

On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 4:33 PM, jean rainwater
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mark the dates!
 Brown University is hosting code4lib 2009 which will take place at the
 Renaissance Providence Hotel from Monday, Feb 23 (preconference day)
 to Thursday, Feb 26.

 It's time to start a discussion of potential keynote speakers.  Ideas?

 Jean

 Jean Rainwater
 Co-Leader, Integrated Technology Services
 Brown University Library
 Providence, Rhode Island 02912
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [CODE4LIB] code4lib 2009

2008-06-25 Thread James Jacobs
Patrick Ball, open source geek, statistician, doing great work for the 
world:


http://www.hrdag.org/about/patrick_ball.shtml

james

Phillips, Mark wrote:

I think Sebastian is a great suggestion.  He presented several times at UNT 
over the years and each presentation was well received by a broad range of 
listeners.  Also at code4lib he can get all geeky and such.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ross Singer
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 2:43 PM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] code4lib 2009

Going back to the original question about keynotes, I think Sebastian
Hammer from IndexData would be an interesting choice.

-Ross.

On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 4:33 PM, jean rainwater
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Mark the dates!
Brown University is hosting code4lib 2009 which will take place at the
Renaissance Providence Hotel from Monday, Feb 23 (preconference day)
to Thursday, Feb 26.

It's time to start a discussion of potential keynote speakers.  Ideas?

Jean

Jean Rainwater
Co-Leader, Integrated Technology Services
Brown University Library
Providence, Rhode Island 02912
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



--
James R. Jacobs
International Documents Librarian
Green Library
Stanford University
(650) 725-1030
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://jonssonlibrary.stanford.edu
AIM: LibrarianJames Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: [CODE4LIB] code4lib 2009

2008-06-25 Thread Frumkin, Jeremy
Last year we had a somewhat mixed process - I'll have to go back and look at 
the email archives, but I believe we had a somewhat informal vote after folks 
volunteered to host pre-conference topics. After the vote, there was at least 
one group that decided to run an 'unofficial' pre-conference as well, which was 
also well attended.

-- jaf

===
Jeremy Frumkin
Head, Emerging Technologies and Services
121 The Valley Library, Oregon State University
Corvallis OR 97331-4501
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
541.602.4905
541.737.3453 (Fax)
===
 Without ambition one starts nothing. Without work one finishes nothing.  - 
Emerson


-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jean rainwater
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 12:18 PM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] code4lib 2009

Alexis - I'm posting your question to the list because I don't have
the answer.
We have a pre-conference room which will hold 80 people reserved for
Monday, 2/23.  We could book a second (and third?) room if necessary.
I'm not sure if the pre-conference topics go to popular vote or if
anyone willing to organize one gets a green light.  Jeremy or others
- how did work last year?

Jean

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Alexis Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Jean,

 I sent you an email a couple of months ago regarding having an
 OpenLibrary.org pre-conference next year.  I'm sure I was jumping the gun a
 bit timing-wise, but would now be a better time to start discussing whether
 this will be possible?
 Three people from our project spoke at the 2008 conference - Aaron Swartz,
 our tech lead; Brewster Kahle, founder of Internet Archive; and Karen Coyle,
 our metadata czarina.  We also held a small meeting prior to the conference,
 which I'm told was well attended.  We'd like to do a whole day
 pre-conference in 2009 if that will work out schedule-wise.

 What do you think, is this a possibility?

 Thanks,

 Alexis Rossi
 Internet Archive




 jean rainwater wrote:

 Mark the dates!
 Brown University is hosting code4lib 2009 which will take place at the
 Renaissance Providence Hotel from Monday, Feb 23 (preconference day)
 to Thursday, Feb 26.

 It's time to start a discussion of potential keynote speakers.  Ideas?

 Jean

 Jean Rainwater
 Co-Leader, Integrated Technology Services
 Brown University Library
 Providence, Rhode Island 02912
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: [CODE4LIB] alpha characters used for field names

2008-06-25 Thread Steve Oberg
Ok. What's allowable/possible vs. what is actually defined as part of
variable MARC data fields in say MARC21.  I'm amused by the
hairsplitting. The bottom line is these particular fields are ALEPH
specific and are not part of MARC21.  I agree with others that
accounting for these in whatever parsing program you use should not be
a big deal.

Steve



On 6/25/08, Jonathan Rochkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I believe that alpha characters for field names ARE legal according to
 (most of the various) MARC standard(s). But they are not generally used
 in library MARC data.

 Jonathan

 Eric Lease Morgan wrote:
 Are alpha characters used for field names valid in MARC records?

 When we do dumps of MARC records our ILS often dumps them with FMT and
 CAT field names. So not only do I have glorious 246 fields and 100
 fields but I also have CAT fields and FMT fields. Are these features
 of my ILS -- extensions of the standard -- or really a part of MARC?
 Moreover, does something like Marc4J or MARC::Batch and friends deal
 with these alpha field names correctly?

 --Eric Lease Morgan


 --
 Jonathan Rochkind
 Digital Services Software Engineer
 The Sheridan Libraries
 Johns Hopkins University
 410.516.8886
 rochkind (at) jhu.edu



Re: [CODE4LIB] alpha characters used for field names

2008-06-25 Thread Eric Lease Morgan

On Jun 25, 2008, at 4:37 PM, Steve Oberg wrote:


Ok. What's allowable/possible vs. what is actually defined as part of
variable MARC data fields in say MARC21.  I'm amused by the
hairsplitting. The bottom line is these particular fields are ALEPH
specific and are not part of MARC21.  I agree with others that
accounting for these in whatever parsing program you use should not be
a big deal.



Yep, I'm getting ALEPH output, and the issue is not so much whether or  
not alpha-named fields exist but whether or not my parsing tools  
(MARC::Batch and friends or Marc4J) handle them correctly. For  
example, MARC::Batch warns of invalid indicators with values such as  
  BE. Who ever heard of an indicator being longer than two  
characters long?


--
Eric


Re: [CODE4LIB] code4lib 2009

2008-06-25 Thread jean rainwater
There is a google group - code4libcon - for conference planning details.
http://groups.google.com/group/code4libcon
-- Jean

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 4:48 PM, Jonathan Rochkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I believe last year there was also a separate conference organizing list,
 where those who wanted to participate in decision making about the
 conference could sign on and discuss it?

 Me,I'm perfectly happy to leave things like preconferences to those who are
 interested in thinking about it.

 But I recall that opinion of mine was controversial too, and someone (jaf?
 :) ) thought that everyoen attending the conf shoudl be participating on the
 conf organizing list. Either way, not everyone on the code4lib list will
 even be attending the conf, of course.

 Jonathan

 Frumkin, Jeremy wrote:

 Last year we had a somewhat mixed process - I'll have to go back and look
 at the email archives, but I believe we had a somewhat informal vote after
 folks volunteered to host pre-conference topics. After the vote, there was
 at least one group that decided to run an 'unofficial' pre-conference as
 well, which was also well attended.

 -- jaf

 ===
 Jeremy Frumkin
 Head, Emerging Technologies and Services
 121 The Valley Library, Oregon State University
 Corvallis OR 97331-4501
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  541.602.4905
 541.737.3453 (Fax)
 ===
  Without ambition one starts nothing. Without work one finishes nothing.
  - Emerson


 -Original Message-
 From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 jean rainwater
 Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 12:18 PM
 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
 Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] code4lib 2009

 Alexis - I'm posting your question to the list because I don't have
 the answer.
 We have a pre-conference room which will hold 80 people reserved for
 Monday, 2/23.  We could book a second (and third?) room if necessary.
 I'm not sure if the pre-conference topics go to popular vote or if
 anyone willing to organize one gets a green light.  Jeremy or others
 - how did work last year?

 Jean

 On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Alexis Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Hi Jean,

 I sent you an email a couple of months ago regarding having an
 OpenLibrary.org pre-conference next year.  I'm sure I was jumping the gun
 a
 bit timing-wise, but would now be a better time to start discussing
 whether
 this will be possible?
 Three people from our project spoke at the 2008 conference - Aaron
 Swartz,
 our tech lead; Brewster Kahle, founder of Internet Archive; and Karen
 Coyle,
 our metadata czarina.  We also held a small meeting prior to the
 conference,
 which I'm told was well attended.  We'd like to do a whole day
 pre-conference in 2009 if that will work out schedule-wise.

 What do you think, is this a possibility?

 Thanks,

 Alexis Rossi
 Internet Archive







 jean rainwater wrote:


 Mark the dates!
 Brown University is hosting code4lib 2009 which will take place at the
 Renaissance Providence Hotel from Monday, Feb 23 (preconference day)
 to Thursday, Feb 26.

 It's time to start a discussion of potential keynote speakers.
  Ideas?

 Jean

 Jean Rainwater
 Co-Leader, Integrated Technology Services
 Brown University Library
 Providence, Rhode Island 02912
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]





 --
 Jonathan Rochkind
 Digital Services Software Engineer
 The Sheridan Libraries
 Johns Hopkins University
 410.516.8886 rochkind (at) jhu.edu



Re: [CODE4LIB] ssh tunneling through a mysql dsn

2008-06-25 Thread Joe Hourcle

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008, Eric Lease Morgan wrote:


On Jun 25, 2008, at 11:21 AM, Nate Vack wrote:


$ ssh -T -L 3306:mysql.example.org:3306 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
$ mysql -h mysql.example.org


Yeah -- this is (probably) the way you want to do it, though. You'll need 
to:


* Set up SSH keys such that building the tunnel doesn't prompt for a 
password

* Run the local end of the tunnel on a free port
* Configure your local client to talk to the local end of the tunnel


I went to Plan B, namely, installing my Perl module on the remote host where 
the MySQL database resides. Doing the tunneling thing was too much like using 
my right hand to reach around my head to scratch my left ear. Cumbersome.


SSH tunneling is an odd concept at first, but it's very useful if you 
don't have VPN ...


For instance, when I'm on the road, I use tunneling to make my e-mail look 
like it's coming from a machine that our SMTP server will route mail for.


I've also used it for checking development websites that are behind 
firewalls, by connecting the tunnel to my local port 80.  (you also need 
to adjust your /etc/hosts or equivalent if the site isn't good about using 
relative or root-relative links to their local content).


Now I have YAUAPTR (Yet Another Username And Password To Remember). /me 
sighs too



Get a password management program... I have 93 in one, and 165 in another 
... and my work wants us to have seperate login  wheel accounts, which is 
going to add another 31.  There's no way in hell that I could remember 
them all.


-Joe


Re: [CODE4LIB] code4lib 2009

2008-06-25 Thread Ed Summers
Here are a few ideas., since you asked (I think?)


Stefano Mazzocchi: http://www.betaversion.org/~stefano/

Creator or Cocoon, one of the people behind the Simile project, now at
MetaWeb ... I think Stefano's experience with public speaking, open
source software, data processing and the web would make him a
compelling keynote.


Andy Powell: http://www.eduserv.org.uk/foundation/people/andypowell/

Long time metadata wrangler, and moving force behind organizations
like UKOLN, JISC, Open Archive Initiative, Eduserv. Andy's been a
strong advocate for the use of web technologies, and web architecture
in the digital library space.


Ian Davis: http://iandavis.com/blog/about

CTO of Talis, architect of their RESTful semweb platform, co-author of
RSS 1.0, creator of FRBR RDF vocabulary, articulate and experienced
speaker on the use of the web and semantic web technologies,
particularly (but limited to) the library space.


Tim Spalding: http://www.librarything.com/profile.php?view=timspalding

The guy behind LibraryThing. His insights into the communities around
books and libraries, and how to enable them on the web are fun,
invigorating and inspiring.


Carl Malamud: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Malamud

Long time advocate for Internet technologies for the public good. Most
recently involved with making public domain data sets available to the
public w/ public.resource.org.


Jon Orwant: http://www.orwant.com/bio/

Perl hacker, author, former CTO of O'Reilly, now at Google Book
Search. Would be fun to hear where he thinks libraries and books, and
hopefully he'd throw a mug or two.

//Ed


Re: [CODE4LIB] alpha characters used for field names

2008-06-25 Thread Hahn, Harvey
Eric Lease Morgan wrote:
|Who ever heard of an indicator being longer than two characters long?

Byte 10 (zero origin) of the MARC leader specifies the number of
indicator characters.  MARC21 and its predecessors have always specified
2, but the possible range is 0 to 9.  The 24-character leader is the
wizard of MARC records, specifying what a particular version of MARC
looks like.  Libraries have always been very conservative in this
regard, using only a single set of specifications from 1968 to the
present.  However, the standard actually permits a very wide range of
possible implementations.

Unfortunately, the most limiting aspect of the 24-character leader is
that fact that only 5 digits (the first 5 characters of the leader) were
specified as the maximum length of a MARC record.  Manipulating the
various possible values of specific positions in the leader could lead
to record/field/subfield sizes far larger than this, but the 5-digit
(99,999 maximum) limitation is really *quite* limiting these days.  The
5-digit base address in positions 12-16 might pose a similar problem.
But people were thinking in catalog card terms back at the beginning of
MARC.  It's sort of like, are we putting unconscious limitations on
anything today in our specifications that future generations might wish
*we* had done differently?

Harvey
 
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Re: [CODE4LIB] code4lib 2009

2008-06-25 Thread Scot Colford
Oh, I'm all over that suggestion about Sebastian. For Pete's sake, who
doesn't use Yaz? Forgive the ditto -- I have nothing to add -- but just
felt compelled to post.

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On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Phillips, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 I think Sebastian is a great suggestion.  He presented several times at UNT
 over the years and each presentation was well received by a broad range of
 listeners.  Also at code4lib he can get all geeky and such.

 Mark

 -Original Message-
 From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Ross Singer
 Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 2:43 PM
 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
 Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] code4lib 2009

 Going back to the original question about keynotes, I think Sebastian
 Hammer from IndexData would be an interesting choice.

 -Ross.

 On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 4:33 PM, jean rainwater
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Mark the dates!
  Brown University is hosting code4lib 2009 which will take place at the
  Renaissance Providence Hotel from Monday, Feb 23 (preconference day)
  to Thursday, Feb 26.
 
  It's time to start a discussion of potential keynote speakers.
  Ideas?
 
  Jean
 
  Jean Rainwater
  Co-Leader, Integrated Technology Services
  Brown University Library
  Providence, Rhode Island 02912
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