Re: [CODE4LIB] Calendar Data Exchange
Miriam Goldberg wrote: I'd go with icalendar. It plays nicely with most major calendar applications. also, at the risk of sounding like a shill, I'm helping develop a web app (www.fusecal.com) that'll make it easier for web publishers to get their calendar information into users personal calendars and keep the information up to date as the calendar changes. I'd also take a look at Bedework (http://www.bedework.org) The problem that I have with Calendar systems is not technical but a social issue. We've got several calendar systems at our campus, but other than the Oracle Calendar system that is used to schedule meetings I don't use them. The problem is that, in the case of events, while the person responsible to announcing the event might put it into a calendar, they also try to advertise the event as far and wide as possible so they post a notice to all of the relevant mailing lists that they can think of. Since I'm on a lot of mailing lists, I might get 5-6 copies of an announcement of an event I have no desire in attending, then get reminders on those same list a few days prior to the event. Then there may be someone reading a mailing list, see the announcement and think that it should be forwarded to another mailing list they read (which I'm also on) so I get more copies of the event announcement in my email inbox. Unless it's mandated by an institution that events and other calendar related announcements should *only* go on the institutional calendaring system and not be distributed on mailing lists there really is no point in consuming calendar events from the calendaring system if I'm just going to get them pushed into my email inbox anyway.
Re: [CODE4LIB] Calendar Data Exchange
Thanks. Again, we're not looking so much for an application, but a _format_ that we can publish from our existing CMS in such a way that we could reasonably expect other organizations to import into their systems. Because it is likely that some of our community partners will need to create the importing capability, I need the format to be well documented and easy to build software for. I would prefer something XML based because one can almost always write some XSLT to turn the data into something that can work with their system, regardless of target software or programming language. What about xCal (iCalendar based XML format)? Does anyone use this technology? It is possible to do it with Atom Feeds? Other ideas? --- David Cloutman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Electronic Services Librarian Marin County Free Library -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Fereira Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 4:04 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Calendar Data Exchange Miriam Goldberg wrote: I'd go with icalendar. It plays nicely with most major calendar applications. also, at the risk of sounding like a shill, I'm helping develop a web app (www.fusecal.com) that'll make it easier for web publishers to get their calendar information into users personal calendars and keep the information up to date as the calendar changes. I'd also take a look at Bedework (http://www.bedework.org) The problem that I have with Calendar systems is not technical but a social issue. We've got several calendar systems at our campus, but other than the Oracle Calendar system that is used to schedule meetings I don't use them. The problem is that, in the case of events, while the person responsible to announcing the event might put it into a calendar, they also try to advertise the event as far and wide as possible so they post a notice to all of the relevant mailing lists that they can think of. Since I'm on a lot of mailing lists, I might get 5-6 copies of an announcement of an event I have no desire in attending, then get reminders on those same list a few days prior to the event. Then there may be someone reading a mailing list, see the announcement and think that it should be forwarded to another mailing list they read (which I'm also on) so I get more copies of the event announcement in my email inbox. Unless it's mandated by an institution that events and other calendar related announcements should *only* go on the institutional calendaring system and not be distributed on mailing lists there really is no point in consuming calendar events from the calendaring system if I'm just going to get them pushed into my email inbox anyway. Email Disclaimer: http://www.co.marin.ca.us/nav/misc/EmailDisclaimer.cfm
Re: [CODE4LIB] Calendar Data Exchange
I doubt xCal is nearly as widely supported as iCal. Although not a 'standard', per se, Google Calendar's Atom extensions are also a possible option, given that anything that Google does has pretty broad support. http://code.google.com/apis/calendar/ -Ross. On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Cloutman, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks. Again, we're not looking so much for an application, but a _format_ that we can publish from our existing CMS in such a way that we could reasonably expect other organizations to import into their systems. Because it is likely that some of our community partners will need to create the importing capability, I need the format to be well documented and easy to build software for. I would prefer something XML based because one can almost always write some XSLT to turn the data into something that can work with their system, regardless of target software or programming language. What about xCal (iCalendar based XML format)? Does anyone use this technology? It is possible to do it with Atom Feeds? Other ideas? --- David Cloutman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Electronic Services Librarian Marin County Free Library -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Fereira Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 4:04 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Calendar Data Exchange Miriam Goldberg wrote: I'd go with icalendar. It plays nicely with most major calendar applications. also, at the risk of sounding like a shill, I'm helping develop a web app (www.fusecal.com) that'll make it easier for web publishers to get their calendar information into users personal calendars and keep the information up to date as the calendar changes. I'd also take a look at Bedework (http://www.bedework.org) The problem that I have with Calendar systems is not technical but a social issue. We've got several calendar systems at our campus, but other than the Oracle Calendar system that is used to schedule meetings I don't use them. The problem is that, in the case of events, while the person responsible to announcing the event might put it into a calendar, they also try to advertise the event as far and wide as possible so they post a notice to all of the relevant mailing lists that they can think of. Since I'm on a lot of mailing lists, I might get 5-6 copies of an announcement of an event I have no desire in attending, then get reminders on those same list a few days prior to the event. Then there may be someone reading a mailing list, see the announcement and think that it should be forwarded to another mailing list they read (which I'm also on) so I get more copies of the event announcement in my email inbox. Unless it's mandated by an institution that events and other calendar related announcements should *only* go on the institutional calendaring system and not be distributed on mailing lists there really is no point in consuming calendar events from the calendaring system if I'm just going to get them pushed into my email inbox anyway. Email Disclaimer: http://www.co.marin.ca.us/nav/misc/EmailDisclaimer.cfm
Re: [CODE4LIB] Simulating off-campus for testing
Just getting a DSL line is pretty cheap. Using a DSL like to test lets you remove a lot more of your network from the equation than vpn'ing out or tunneling stuff over tor. Plus if your main connection out ever went down (not that _yours_ would, but that might factor into the decision making process for smaller institutions) you could get out via DSL. A previous employer had a couple EVDO cards/dongles for laptops to fulfill the same goals -- external testing and emergency access. Samuel Liston Library Technology Analyst, Oceanside PL email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] desk: 760-435-5628 cell: 760-521-4065
