[CODE4LIB] JOB POSTING: Information Designer/E-Content Manager (Greater DC Metro)
Library Associates Companies (LAC) seeks for *immediate consideration* candidates for the position of Information Designer/E-Content Manager for a position in the greater DC metro area. The Information Designer/E-Content Manager will assist with implementing usability and access to digital resources and with developing marketing-communication tools. The position is full time for six months. Must be a US Citizen in order to be considered. Primary Responsibilities * Perform content analysis and mapping to determine navigation and layout; * Define workflows, content authoring and review policies; * Create new graphics and visual designs within existing guidelines; * Implement RSS feeds and similar notification features; * Assist with usability testing and translating results into design and organization updates; * Identify, recommend, and implement new modes and techniques of communication to promote awareness of new services; * Create marketing and communication awareness products. Minimum Experience Required * Adobe Illustrator * Photoshop, InDesign, or Visio * Experience with web content–creation tools such as Adobe Flash, Dreamweaver CS3, XHTML/CSS, JavaScript, ActionScript 3.0, CGI * Experience with information architecture, user task analysis, interface design; * Experience with digital information repositories and with metadata; * Some knowledge of PHP, MySQL or Perl * Knowledge of image capture and delivery techniques. To Apply * Send resume and compensation expectations (ideal to minimum-acceptable) to Recruiter at j...@libraryassociates.com with “Information Designer / E-Content Manager #1292” in Subject field. LAC is an Equal Opportunity / Affirmative Action Employer that values diversity in the workplace. Patty De Anda Communications & Projects Associate Library Associates Companies / LAC 6500 Wilshire Blvd., Suite 2240 Los Angeles, CA 90048 800.987.6794 toll free 323.302.9439 local 323.852.1093 fax www.libraryassociates.com pdea...@libraryassociates.com
Re: [CODE4LIB] Who is working on METS Viewer applications
Hi Bess, dear list credit where credit 's due ! The DFG Viewer is not my or IISH's achievement but a separate German project: project partners and development history can be found here: http://dfg-viewer.de/en/regarding-the-project/project-partners/ I will pass on the compliments and what you are working on your self. Thanks for that information ! Repke Op 17-sep-2009, om 15:50 heeft Bess Sadler het volgende geschreven: Hi, Repke, ... One of the views we're particularly interested in, which we haven't yet tackled, is a viewer for our digitized manuscripts. We have digitized manuscripts represented as METS files, in the system I've described above, but we're still working on displaying these to end users. I love what you've created with the DFG Viewer! I hope you don't mind if I borrow some of your UI ideas. Nicely done. Bess .. Here is an example of what we mean by that - the DFGViewer: http://dfg-viewer.de/en/regarding-the-project/ Anyone else ? ..
Re: [CODE4LIB] Library Website Redesign Info and Project Plans
Hey, I'd like to recommend this assessment tool (here's a 3 pager about it): http://eprints.ecs.soton.ac.uk/17585/1/jcdl09_lightweighteval_mwilson.pdf It allows you to analyse re-designs from a series of different user perspectives. The paper is from a lightweight eval workshop at the digital libraries conference this year. I'd be more than happy to talk to you more about it if you have any questions. I should say it's a little in progress still, so I'm here to help. Further, I'm keen to work on some case studies of people using it to see how they find it. So perhaps there can be a 2 way flow of benefit :) all the best Max Wilson -- n - max wilson e - cs...@swan.ac.uk w - www.cs.swan.ac.uk/~csmax/ t - +44 (0) 1792 602611 -- On 17 Sep 2009, at 14:37, Susan Teague Rector wrote: Oh, I forgot to mention (Eric's post just reminded me of this) that I've found user testing to be the best way to balance that staff v. user perspective issue. You probably already know this, but I thought I'd at least throw it out there. Even if you do "guerilla" user testing, at least you have some data to use when you meet with staff, who often have a different perspective on what should be on the homepage :D - susan Rosalyn Metz wrote: Susan and Beth, I'd love to see a project plan and/or write up if you have one. I'm really curious how people handle the gathering information piece and balance staff v. user perspectives. And I'm sure as I begin actually writing a plan I'll be curious about many of the other things people did. Rosalyn On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 7:32 AM, susan teague rector > wrote: I second David's book choice - I've done 3 redesigns at my library (we're on the 3rd right now) and i have referred to the process in this book countless times. I typically follow an iterative approach to writing and executing my project plans; however, it's difficult to get away from traditional waterfall methodology and our plans sometimes fall back into that mold - I can send you a copy of a proj. plan if you're interested Cheers, Susan VCU Libraries http://www.library.vcu.edu | http://www.library.vcu.edu/redesign Walker, David wrote: My wife really likes "Web Redesign: Workflow that Works", by Kelly Goto & Emily Cotler. The second edition is called Web Redesign 2.0. http://www.web-redesign.com/ http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/57641137 --Dave == David Walker Library Web Services Manager California State University http://xerxes.calstate.edu From: Code for Libraries [code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Jason Stirnaman [jstirna...@kumc.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:36 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Library Website Redesign Info and Project Plans I just came across this yesterday: http://johncrenshaw.net/blog/web-development-project-process-workflow/ Very high-level and usual systems design approach, but with some good web-specific tips thrown in. Sean Hannan 09/16/09 10:20 AM >>> We're currently in the middle of a library website redesign as well. For the most part, we have framed our project using Jesse James Garrett's The Elements of User Experience (https://wiki.library.jhu.edu/download/attachments/30737/elements.pdf ). It has been immensely helpful in plotting out our work from the User Experience touchy-feely end to the Information Architecture to the visual design and implementation. -Sean --- Sean Hannan Web Developer Sheridan Libraries Johns Hopkins University On Sep 16, 2009, at 10:52 AM, Rosalyn Metz wrote: Hi All, I'm about to embark on a library website redesign. I've started thinking about creating a project plan, but I honestly don't know where to start. I saw this website redesign presentation Lorcan Dempsey tweeted about: http://www.ucd.ie/library/guides/powerpoint/rpan_ppt2/index.swf And started thinking, I wonder if anyone else has similar slides or project plans or advice. I of course asked the Google but I didn't really find any project plans. (If you're curious what I did find, take a look here: http://delicious.com/rosy1280/library+website-redesign) I do of course realize that every library is different, but I'm hoping that any information you all might be able to provide could help get the juices flowing. Thanks for your help in advance. Rosalyn Rosalyn
Re: [CODE4LIB] Who is working on METS Viewer applications
Hi, Repke, Many of the digital objects [1] visible through VirgoBeta [2], which is an installation of Blacklight [3], are stored as METS. For each METS file we index the relevant parts in solr, and we have a middleware application that can easily grab relevant bits of it for re- purposing, so that we can use our METS data in many places without having many places where METS must be understood and interpreted. This middleware app is just a set of XSL transformations, held together by cocoon, of the form: http://{URL FOR APP}/{ID OF METS FILE}/{descMeta | adminMeta | technicalMeta | rightsMeta | MIX | getParts } (This is from memory, so I know I'm leaving out some of our metadata streams and mis-naming others.) We also create a Fedora object for each METS file with externally managed datastreams that reference each of the metadata datastreams. This is sort of a belt-and-suspenders approach, I realize, and I plan to re-examine it as this project progresses. Then Blacklight has object-class specific views that know how to display these various parts (data is drawn from solr for the search results, and from the metadata streams for the full record display). One of the views we're particularly interested in, which we haven't yet tackled, is a viewer for our digitized manuscripts. We have digitized manuscripts represented as METS files, in the system I've described above, but we're still working on displaying these to end users. I love what you've created with the DFG Viewer! I hope you don't mind if I borrow some of your UI ideas. Nicely done. Bess [1] e.g., http://virgobeta.lib.virginia.edu/catalog/uva-lib:414860 [2] http://virgobeta.lib.virginia.edu [3] http://projectblacklight.org On 17-Sep-09, at 4:05 AM, Repke de Vries wrote: Dear Code4Lib Community read the METS based OpenMIC - OpenWMS announcement (July 9th) with great interest. It points at a need beyond METS creation and that is METS Viewers for end users: who in the CODE4LIB community is working on METS Viewer applications ? Here is an example of what we mean by that - the DFGViewer: http://dfg-viewer.de/en/regarding-the-project/ Anyone else ? Background: the International Institute for Social History [ http:// www.iisg.nl ] has such collections that we are involved with both the archiving and library communities. Metadata issues therefore are a mixed bag. Added to that are Permanent Access issues. We are looking at METS to tie it all together and at METS Viewers for our users to easily navigate and negotiate what 's pulled together in these METS containers. Thanks, Repke de Vries Elizabeth (Bess) Sadler Chief Architect for the Online Library Environment Box 400129 Alderman Library University of Virginia Charlottesville, VA 22904 b...@virginia.edu (434) 243-2305 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: [CODE4LIB] Library Website Redesign Info and Project Plans
Oh, I forgot to mention (Eric's post just reminded me of this) that I've found user testing to be the best way to balance that staff v. user perspective issue. You probably already know this, but I thought I'd at least throw it out there. Even if you do "guerilla" user testing, at least you have some data to use when you meet with staff, who often have a different perspective on what should be on the homepage :D - susan Rosalyn Metz wrote: Susan and Beth, I'd love to see a project plan and/or write up if you have one. I'm really curious how people handle the gathering information piece and balance staff v. user perspectives. And I'm sure as I begin actually writing a plan I'll be curious about many of the other things people did. Rosalyn On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 7:32 AM, susan teague rector wrote: I second David's book choice - I've done 3 redesigns at my library (we're on the 3rd right now) and i have referred to the process in this book countless times. I typically follow an iterative approach to writing and executing my project plans; however, it's difficult to get away from traditional waterfall methodology and our plans sometimes fall back into that mold - I can send you a copy of a proj. plan if you're interested Cheers, Susan VCU Libraries http://www.library.vcu.edu | http://www.library.vcu.edu/redesign Walker, David wrote: My wife really likes "Web Redesign: Workflow that Works", by Kelly Goto & Emily Cotler. The second edition is called Web Redesign 2.0. http://www.web-redesign.com/ http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/57641137 --Dave == David Walker Library Web Services Manager California State University http://xerxes.calstate.edu From: Code for Libraries [code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Jason Stirnaman [jstirna...@kumc.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:36 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Library Website Redesign Info and Project Plans I just came across this yesterday: http://johncrenshaw.net/blog/web-development-project-process-workflow/ Very high-level and usual systems design approach, but with some good web-specific tips thrown in. Sean Hannan 09/16/09 10:20 AM >>> We're currently in the middle of a library website redesign as well. For the most part, we have framed our project using Jesse James Garrett's The Elements of User Experience (https://wiki.library.jhu.edu/download/attachments/30737/elements.pdf ). It has been immensely helpful in plotting out our work from the User Experience touchy-feely end to the Information Architecture to the visual design and implementation. -Sean --- Sean Hannan Web Developer Sheridan Libraries Johns Hopkins University On Sep 16, 2009, at 10:52 AM, Rosalyn Metz wrote: Hi All, I'm about to embark on a library website redesign. I've started thinking about creating a project plan, but I honestly don't know where to start. I saw this website redesign presentation Lorcan Dempsey tweeted about: http://www.ucd.ie/library/guides/powerpoint/rpan_ppt2/index.swf And started thinking, I wonder if anyone else has similar slides or project plans or advice. I of course asked the Google but I didn't really find any project plans. (If you're curious what I did find, take a look here: http://delicious.com/rosy1280/library+website-redesign) I do of course realize that every library is different, but I'm hoping that any information you all might be able to provide could help get the juices flowing. Thanks for your help in advance. Rosalyn Rosalyn
Re: [CODE4LIB] Library Website Redesign Info and Project Plans
Great - will email you separately as I'm not sure I can send attachments to the listserv(?) cheers, susan Rosalyn Metz wrote: Susan and Beth, I'd love to see a project plan and/or write up if you have one. I'm really curious how people handle the gathering information piece and balance staff v. user perspectives. And I'm sure as I begin actually writing a plan I'll be curious about many of the other things people did. Rosalyn On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 7:32 AM, susan teague rector wrote: I second David's book choice - I've done 3 redesigns at my library (we're on the 3rd right now) and i have referred to the process in this book countless times. I typically follow an iterative approach to writing and executing my project plans; however, it's difficult to get away from traditional waterfall methodology and our plans sometimes fall back into that mold - I can send you a copy of a proj. plan if you're interested Cheers, Susan VCU Libraries http://www.library.vcu.edu | http://www.library.vcu.edu/redesign Walker, David wrote: My wife really likes "Web Redesign: Workflow that Works", by Kelly Goto & Emily Cotler. The second edition is called Web Redesign 2.0. http://www.web-redesign.com/ http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/57641137 --Dave == David Walker Library Web Services Manager California State University http://xerxes.calstate.edu From: Code for Libraries [code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Jason Stirnaman [jstirna...@kumc.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:36 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Library Website Redesign Info and Project Plans I just came across this yesterday: http://johncrenshaw.net/blog/web-development-project-process-workflow/ Very high-level and usual systems design approach, but with some good web-specific tips thrown in. Sean Hannan 09/16/09 10:20 AM >>> We're currently in the middle of a library website redesign as well. For the most part, we have framed our project using Jesse James Garrett's The Elements of User Experience (https://wiki.library.jhu.edu/download/attachments/30737/elements.pdf ). It has been immensely helpful in plotting out our work from the User Experience touchy-feely end to the Information Architecture to the visual design and implementation. -Sean --- Sean Hannan Web Developer Sheridan Libraries Johns Hopkins University On Sep 16, 2009, at 10:52 AM, Rosalyn Metz wrote: Hi All, I'm about to embark on a library website redesign. I've started thinking about creating a project plan, but I honestly don't know where to start. I saw this website redesign presentation Lorcan Dempsey tweeted about: http://www.ucd.ie/library/guides/powerpoint/rpan_ppt2/index.swf And started thinking, I wonder if anyone else has similar slides or project plans or advice. I of course asked the Google but I didn't really find any project plans. (If you're curious what I did find, take a look here: http://delicious.com/rosy1280/library+website-redesign) I do of course realize that every library is different, but I'm hoping that any information you all might be able to provide could help get the juices flowing. Thanks for your help in advance. Rosalyn Rosalyn
Re: [CODE4LIB] Library Website Redesign Info and Project Plans
On Sep 17, 2009, at 9:27 AM, Rosalyn Metz wrote: ...staff v. user perspectives... Boy, if staff versus user perspectives is not an issue, then I don't know what is! -- Eric Morgan University of Notre Dame
Re: [CODE4LIB] Library Website Redesign Info and Project Plans
Susan and Beth, I'd love to see a project plan and/or write up if you have one. I'm really curious how people handle the gathering information piece and balance staff v. user perspectives. And I'm sure as I begin actually writing a plan I'll be curious about many of the other things people did. Rosalyn On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 7:32 AM, susan teague rector wrote: > I second David's book choice - I've done 3 redesigns at my library (we're on > the 3rd right now) and i have referred to the process in this book countless > times. > I typically follow an iterative approach to writing and executing my project > plans; however, it's difficult to get away from traditional waterfall > methodology and our plans sometimes fall back into that mold - I can send > you a copy of a proj. plan if you're interested > > Cheers, > Susan > VCU Libraries > http://www.library.vcu.edu | http://www.library.vcu.edu/redesign > > Walker, David wrote: >> >> My wife really likes "Web Redesign: Workflow that Works", by Kelly Goto & >> Emily Cotler. >> The second edition is called Web Redesign 2.0. >> >> http://www.web-redesign.com/ >> http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/57641137 >> >> --Dave >> >> == >> David Walker >> Library Web Services Manager >> California State University >> http://xerxes.calstate.edu >> >> From: Code for Libraries [code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Jason >> Stirnaman [jstirna...@kumc.edu] >> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:36 AM >> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU >> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Library Website Redesign Info and Project Plans >> >> I just came across this yesterday: >> http://johncrenshaw.net/blog/web-development-project-process-workflow/ >> Very high-level and usual systems design approach, but with some good >> web-specific tips thrown in. >> >> >> > > Sean Hannan 09/16/09 10:20 AM >>> > >> >> We're currently in the middle of a library website redesign as well. >> For the most part, we have framed our project using Jesse James >> Garrett's The Elements of User Experience >> (https://wiki.library.jhu.edu/download/attachments/30737/elements.pdf >> ). It has been immensely helpful in plotting out our work from the >> User Experience touchy-feely end to the Information Architecture to >> the visual design and implementation. >> >> -Sean >> >> --- >> Sean Hannan >> Web Developer >> Sheridan Libraries >> Johns Hopkins University >> >> On Sep 16, 2009, at 10:52 AM, Rosalyn Metz wrote: >> >> >>> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> I'm about to embark on a library website redesign. I've started >>> thinking about creating a project plan, but I honestly don't know >>> where to start. >>> >>> I saw this website redesign presentation Lorcan Dempsey tweeted about: >>> http://www.ucd.ie/library/guides/powerpoint/rpan_ppt2/index.swf And >>> started thinking, I wonder if anyone else has similar slides or >>> project plans or advice. I of course asked the Google but I didn't >>> really find any project plans. (If you're curious what I did find, >>> take a look here: >>> http://delicious.com/rosy1280/library+website-redesign) >>> >>> I do of course realize that every library is different, but I'm hoping >>> that any information you all might be able to provide could help get >>> the juices flowing. >>> >>> Thanks for your help in advance. >>> Rosalyn >>> >>> Rosalyn >>> >
Re: [CODE4LIB] Implementing OpenURL for simple web resources
> > You might find the WebCite service [1] to be of some use. Thanks - I'll have a look (although obviously Mike's experience is worrying) > Of course it cannot work retroactively, so it is best if > researchers use it in the first place. It seems the number of our authors/researchers using bibliographic management s/w at all is pretty small. This is anecdotal, but it reflects my experience across the sector - a few academics are interested in this, but the majority are not. Owen Owen Stephens TELSTAR Project Manager Library and Learning Resources Centre The Open University Walton Hall Milton Keynes, MK7 6AA T: +44 (0) 1908 858701 F: +44 (0) 1908 653571 E: o.steph...@open.ac.uk The Open University is incorporated by Royal Charter (RC 000391), an exempt charity in England & Wales and a charity registered in Scotland (SC 038302).
Re: [CODE4LIB] Library Website Redesign Info and Project Plans
Hello! I agree with others who have recommended Jesse James Garrett's work. We are in the roll-out phase of our CMS implementation/redesign and I relied heavily on Garrett's book in the early phases. We took an iterative user-focused approach within a broad phased project plan, making sure we had user voices in each step in some form. (We relied on work by Jakob Nielsen, Steve Krug, usability.gov, and others.) Our public face for communicating progress was a blog: http://library.osu.edu/blogs/lipp. Internally, we kept our project plans in dotProject, which doesn't have the best method for outputting the whole plan to share. I plan to write it all up at some point and will be happy to share with you and the list if there is interest. I'll be presenting about the CMS Selection and Implementation part of this project at the LITA National Forum in a few weeks, so that's where I'm starting on the writing up part. Once the presentation is finished I'll be able to share that if you are interested. I hope this helps! Beth Beth Black Systems Librarian and Assistant Professor Head, Web Implementation Team Ohio State University Libraries 610 Ackerman Rd, Room 5855 Columbus, Ohio 43202-4500 (614) 688-5428 black@osu.edu -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Rosalyn Metz Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 10:53 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] Library Website Redesign Info and Project Plans Hi All, I'm about to embark on a library website redesign. I've started thinking about creating a project plan, but I honestly don't know where to start. I saw this website redesign presentation Lorcan Dempsey tweeted about: http://www.ucd.ie/library/guides/powerpoint/rpan_ppt2/index.swf And started thinking, I wonder if anyone else has similar slides or project plans or advice. I of course asked the Google but I didn't really find any project plans. (If you're curious what I did find, take a look here: http://delicious.com/rosy1280/library+website-redesign) I do of course realize that every library is different, but I'm hoping that any information you all might be able to provide could help get the juices flowing. Thanks for your help in advance. Rosalyn Rosalyn -- BEGIN-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS -- Teach CanIt if this mail (ID 934795769) is spam: Spam:https://antispam.osu.edu/b.php?i=934795769&m=51c73c14b43c&c=s Not spam:https://antispam.osu.edu/b.php?i=934795769&m=51c73c14b43c&c=n Forget vote: https://antispam.osu.edu/b.php?i=934795769&m=51c73c14b43c&c=f -- END-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS
Re: [CODE4LIB] Library Website Redesign Info and Project Plans
I second David's book choice - I've done 3 redesigns at my library (we're on the 3rd right now) and i have referred to the process in this book countless times. I typically follow an iterative approach to writing and executing my project plans; however, it's difficult to get away from traditional waterfall methodology and our plans sometimes fall back into that mold - I can send you a copy of a proj. plan if you're interested Cheers, Susan VCU Libraries http://www.library.vcu.edu | http://www.library.vcu.edu/redesign Walker, David wrote: My wife really likes "Web Redesign: Workflow that Works", by Kelly Goto & Emily Cotler. The second edition is called Web Redesign 2.0. http://www.web-redesign.com/ http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/57641137 --Dave == David Walker Library Web Services Manager California State University http://xerxes.calstate.edu From: Code for Libraries [code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Jason Stirnaman [jstirna...@kumc.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:36 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Library Website Redesign Info and Project Plans I just came across this yesterday: http://johncrenshaw.net/blog/web-development-project-process-workflow/ Very high-level and usual systems design approach, but with some good web-specific tips thrown in. Sean Hannan 09/16/09 10:20 AM >>> We're currently in the middle of a library website redesign as well. For the most part, we have framed our project using Jesse James Garrett's The Elements of User Experience (https://wiki.library.jhu.edu/download/attachments/30737/elements.pdf ). It has been immensely helpful in plotting out our work from the User Experience touchy-feely end to the Information Architecture to the visual design and implementation. -Sean --- Sean Hannan Web Developer Sheridan Libraries Johns Hopkins University On Sep 16, 2009, at 10:52 AM, Rosalyn Metz wrote: Hi All, I'm about to embark on a library website redesign. I've started thinking about creating a project plan, but I honestly don't know where to start. I saw this website redesign presentation Lorcan Dempsey tweeted about: http://www.ucd.ie/library/guides/powerpoint/rpan_ppt2/index.swf And started thinking, I wonder if anyone else has similar slides or project plans or advice. I of course asked the Google but I didn't really find any project plans. (If you're curious what I did find, take a look here: http://delicious.com/rosy1280/library+website-redesign) I do of course realize that every library is different, but I'm hoping that any information you all might be able to provide could help get the juices flowing. Thanks for your help in advance. Rosalyn Rosalyn
[CODE4LIB] Who is working on METS Viewer applications
Dear Code4Lib Community read the METS based OpenMIC - OpenWMS announcement (July 9th) with great interest. It points at a need beyond METS creation and that is METS Viewers for end users: who in the CODE4LIB community is working on METS Viewer applications ? Here is an example of what we mean by that - the DFGViewer: http://dfg-viewer.de/en/regarding-the-project/ Anyone else ? Background: the International Institute for Social History [ http:// www.iisg.nl ] has such collections that we are involved with both the archiving and library communities. Metadata issues therefore are a mixed bag. Added to that are Permanent Access issues. We are looking at METS to tie it all together and at METS Viewers for our users to easily navigate and negotiate what 's pulled together in these METS containers. Thanks, Repke de Vries