Re: [CODE4LIB] Forming a Coalition of Libraries running Tor exit nodes: C4L 2016 Breakout Followup

[David J. Fiander]

The simplest thing to do (for a suitable definition of "simple") is, 
rather than setting up a new IP range for the exit node, tell your 
vendors to exclude the IP address of the exit node. Much like vendors 
who don't allow off-campus access (*cough* uptodate) exclude the proxy 
server address already.


- David

On 2016-03-19 09:46 PM, William Denton wrote:

On 19 March 2016, Alison Macrina wrote:


Hi all, Andromeda forwarded me this email and so I decided to join the
list in case anyone wants to chat about Tor relays (exits and non-exits)
in libraries.


Welcome---I'm glad you joined.

I work at a large university where the library has a small IT department
and the university has a large one.  University IT ultimately controls
everything about networking and security.  Library IT is concerned about
security, and library administration is concerned about making sure our
contracts with vendors aren't broken by us accidentally opening up JSTOR
and PsycInfo to Tor users.

How have academic libraries like mine been arranging exit nodes?  Do you
have any advice, regarding the technology and the advocacy, that would
help?  We tell vendors our IP range---how could I convince people to set
up a new one for the exit node?

Bill

Re: [CODE4LIB] List of Database Subjects

[David J. Fiander]

The problem with "programs/departments" is that there are things that
aren't under the umbrella of a single program/department. Where does
"planetary science" go, for example, when it's a strange mix of Earth
Sciences, Geography, and Astronomy?

The other problem is that there are some very LARGE departments (civil
engineering is 1/4 of a faculty, for example), which would benefit from
multiple database subjects.

On 2016/03/17 13:09, Salazar, Christina wrote:
> I'm curious because I wanted to do a better job with our db categorization, 
> other than program/majors/departments, HOW did you(s) come up with your 
> categories? Any usability/card sorting/etc
> 
> 
> Christina Salazar
> Systems Librarian
> John Spoor Broome Library
> California State University, Channel Islands
> 805/437-3198
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of 
> Jeremy C. Shellhase
> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 10:07 AM
> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] List of Database Subjects
> 
> Hi,
> Subjects we're using are  http://library.humboldt.edu/search/articles.html
> Based pretty much on our programs/depts.
> 
> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause 
> and reflect." *-- **Mark Twain*
> 
> Jeremy C. Shellhase
> Systems Librarian
> Library room 206
> Humboldt State University Library
> One Harpst Street
> Arcata, California 95521
> 707-826-3144 (voice)
> 707-826-3441 (fax)
> jeremy.shellh...@humboldt.edu
> 
> On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 7:17 AM, Ian Chan  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> The subjects we use are listed on
>> https://biblio.csusm.edu/research_portal/databases.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Ian Chan
>> Systems Coordinator
>> University Library
>> California State University San Marcos ic...@csusm.edu | 760-750-4385 
>> | biblio.csusm.edu | Skype: ian.t.chan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf 
>> Of Mitchell B. Roe
>> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 5:38 AM
>> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
>> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] List of Database Subjects
>>
>> On 2016/03/15 14:26, Burrell, Matthew wrote:
>>> Hello all,
>>> I am looking for examples of lists of database subjects similar to 
>>> one
>> we are using, https://www.lib.fsu.edu/eresources/subjects , as a 
>> comparative model. We would like to limit the number of subjects and 
>> searching for examples. Thanks in advance! I appreciate it.
>>> Matt
>>>
>>> Matt Burrell
>>> Web Developer
>>> The Florida State University Libraries Tallahassee, Florida
>>> (850) 814-9634
>>> Or Schedule an Appointment
>>>
>>
>> Here's Oakland University Libraries':
>> https://research.library.oakland.edu/sp/subjects/databases.php
>>
>> --
>> Mitchell B. Roe
>> Medical Library Technology Specialist
>>
>> Oakland University William Beaumont School of Medicine
>> 130 Kresge Library
>> 2200 N Squirrel Rd
>> Rochester, MI 48309
>>
>> mb...@oakland.edu
>>

Re: [CODE4LIB] Scanned PDF to text

[David J. Fiander]

Art Rhyno talked about doing this with scans of old community newspapers
a few years ago (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcjCiS9pJ3A)

Yes, it's very compute intensive and slow. He set up Hadoop to farm jobs
out to the PCs in the library's public lab while the library was closed
at night.

- David

On 2014/12/11 03:59, Chris Fitzpatrick wrote:
> Tesseract is going to be slow, and there might not much you can do about
> that.
> 
> You can do a couple of things, like set up a processes that run on AWS EC2
> spot instances, so you can put a standing bid order on AWS instances and
> only run your OCR when the price drops.
> 
> Or you can buy ABBYY , which is much faster.
> 
> b,chris.
> 
> b,chris.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:45 PM, Kyle Banerjee 
> wrote:
> 
>>> I’m not quite sure if I understand the question, but if all you want to
>> do is pull the text out of an OCR’ed PDF file, then I have found both Tika
>> and PDFtotext to be useful tools
>>>
>>> On the other hand, if you need to do the OCR itself, then employing
>> Tesseract is probably the way to go.
>>
>> For clarity, I have to do the OCR itself. I've been using CAM::PDF to
>> extract existing text.
>>
>> Kyle
>>

[CODE4LIB] Proposing talks for Code4Lib North 2014

[David J. Fiander]

Code4Lib North is what we make of it. Please propose a talk or a
discussion topic.

We have both 5 minute "lightning" talks slots and longer 20 minute
presentation timeslots. The lightning talks are a great way to share
quick tips and tricks, or to point out a new use for an old tool. The 20
minute presentations are a way to share preliminary results of a project
that you're in the middle of, or to practice giving a talk that might be
more formally presented later.

We will also be scheduling time in the afternoons for hackfests and
discussion groups, so if there's something that you want to talk about
in a casual environment with your peers, or a problem that you want to
work on with a group, let us know.

If you don't have a code4lib wiki account, just email ryanw...@gmail.com
to let him know that you need one. If you'd rather not create yet
another account, just let me know the title, and what sort of session it
is: 5 minute; 20 minute; hackfest; or discussion.

And if you haven't registered yet, just let us know you're coming:

https://www.eventbrite.ca/e/code4lib-north-2014-tickets-10312080711

- David

[CODE4LIB] Now that Code4Lib is over, come to London Ontario for Code4Lib North!

[David J. Fiander]

This year, Code4Lib North is coming to London, Ontario, and we've
expanding our reach by working with the London Public Library to put it on.

The details are starting to appear on the Code4Lib North wiki page at


http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/North#Fifth_Meeting:_London_Public_Library.2C_May_1st_and_2nd.2C_2014

and registration is now open at EventBrite

http://www.eventbrite.ca/e/code4lib-north-2014-tickets-10312080711

Re: [CODE4LIB] Creating a dataset: Pulling citations/references from articles

[David J. Fiander]

If the journals are indexed by ISI Web of Science, then you might be
able to get the data from them. They probably have annoying terms of
reference that don't allow this sort of thing normally, but they do
regularly support bibliometric research, so there's probably a way to
tell them what you want and have them send you a data file, under
certain conditions.

- David

On 2014/03/21, 14:53, Amy L. Nurnberger wrote:
> Hi, all,
> 
> I'm asking for your help in identifying a solution for a bibliometricly
> (?) inclined project I was recently approached with.
> 
> The project/challenge: Create a dataset of all references cited in all
> articles of all issues of an identified journal within a defined time
> space (2009-2013), for a list of 40+ journals.
> 
> I feel there may already be a coded solution to this, so if you know
> where it is, or have come up with one, please let me know. My other
> feeling is that this is not necessarily a one size fits all journals
> problem, so if you are interested in delving into this more deeply,
> please contact me off list.
> 
> Thank you in advance for your assistance,
> 
> Best,
> Amy
> _
> Amy Nurnberger, Research Data Manager
> Center for Digital Research and Scholarship
> Columbia University / 212.851.2827
> E-mail: anurnber...@columbia.edu 
> ORCID: -0002-5931-072X 
> Twitter: @DataAtCU 
> 

[CODE4LIB] Code4Lib North 2014 Registration is now open!

[David J. Fiander]

This year, Code4Lib North is coming to London, Ontario, and we've
expanding our reach by working with the London Public Library to put it on.

The details are starting to appear on the Code4Lib North wiki page at


http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/North#Fifth_Meeting:_London_Public_Library.2C_May_1st_and_2nd.2C_2014

and registration is now open at EventBrite

http://www.eventbrite.ca/e/code4lib-north-2014-tickets-10312080711

- David

[CODE4LIB] When did OCLC's original xISBN service launch?

[David J. Fiander]

According to the Code4Lib mailing list archives, the service moved from
"experimental" to production, and changed format, in February, 2007, but
the earliest reference to the service in the archives is a question from
Thom Hickey in May, 2005 soliciting feedback about what additional
features might be of interest.

- David

Re: [CODE4LIB] An interesting practical problem that might be a good hackfest project

[David J. Fiander]

On 13-04-08 13:11, Andreas Orphanides wrote:
> I should know this, since my wife works there... but does NoveList have an
> API?

I suspect not. LibraryThing might be a better option for this, for a
variety of reasons, not least is its API. But the real barrier is the
lack of a good API for the library's holdings information. This really
is a matter of gluing together two or three systems, none of which is
easy to use programmatically.

- David

> 
> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 12:56 PM, David J. Fiander wrote:
> 
>> A friend on friendfeed (no, it's not dead, and yes there's an active
>> librarian community there) who works in a public library complains thusly:
>>
>>> I have decided that it's a goal of mine that for all series in the
>>> fiction collection that circulate reasonably well, I want us to have
>>> the full series. Right now, this is a cumbersome and annoying task. I
>>> have to identify the series (because not all of them are cataloged as
>>> such), see what we have, check the circulation, then check NoveList
>>> and compare the lists and look for gaps.
>>
>> This strikes me as an interesting problem, but one that I can't devote
>> any time to now.
>>
>> And there's the related question of why this is as difficult as it seems
>> to be.
>>

[CODE4LIB] An interesting practical problem that might be a good hackfest project

[David J. Fiander]

A friend on friendfeed (no, it's not dead, and yes there's an active
librarian community there) who works in a public library complains thusly:

> I have decided that it's a goal of mine that for all series in the
> fiction collection that circulate reasonably well, I want us to have
> the full series. Right now, this is a cumbersome and annoying task. I
> have to identify the series (because not all of them are cataloged as
> such), see what we have, check the circulation, then check NoveList
> and compare the lists and look for gaps.

This strikes me as an interesting problem, but one that I can't devote
any time to now.

And there's the related question of why this is as difficult as it seems
to be.

Re: [CODE4LIB] A question about voting points

[David J. Fiander]

I hate Lickert scales.

On 13-04-01 12:43, Rosalyn Metz wrote:
> well those three points become useful in the event of a tie.  maybe i see
> that its a tie, and change my mind, remove the 1 point from austin and give
> it to raleigh.  now raleigh has 2 more points than austin and you've
> managed to put raleigh over the top.
> 
> not that i've ever done that before
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Ross Singer  wrote:
> 
>> PATCHES WELCOME.
>>
>> -Ross.
>>
>> On Apr 1, 2013, at 12:01 PM, "David J. Fiander" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So, I just voted for the Code4Lib 2014 location. There are two possible
>>> venues, and I was given three points to apportion however I wish.
>>>
>>> While having multiple votes, to spread around at will, makes a lot of
>>> sense, shouldn't the number of votes each elector is granted be limited
>>> to max(3, count(options)-1)? That is, when voting for a binary, I get
>>> one vote, when voting on a choice of three items, I get two votes, and
>>> for anything more than three choices, I get three votes?
>>>
>>> I mean, realistically, one could give one vote to Austin and two votes
>>> to Raleigh, but why bother?
>>

[CODE4LIB] A question about voting points

[David J. Fiander]

So, I just voted for the Code4Lib 2014 location. There are two possible
venues, and I was given three points to apportion however I wish.

While having multiple votes, to spread around at will, makes a lot of
sense, shouldn't the number of votes each elector is granted be limited
to max(3, count(options)-1)? That is, when voting for a binary, I get
one vote, when voting on a choice of three items, I get two votes, and
for anything more than three choices, I get three votes?

I mean, realistically, one could give one vote to Austin and two votes
to Raleigh, but why bother?

Re: [CODE4LIB] digital storage

[David J. Fiander]

You know, putting Dick Cheney is a pelican case might have solved a  
lot of problems later on.


- David

On 27-Aug-2009, at 13:30 , Rosalyn Metz wrote:

ah good.  then we are agreeing.  strike the whole disagree with ed  
portion

of my email.

also i like the pelican idea too.  it reminds me of dick cheney in an
undisclosed location.

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Edward M. Corrado >wrote:



Hi Roslyn,

I probably wasn't clear I didn't mean to say don't use cloud  
storage if
you think it is a good solution, in many cases it could be. I meant  
that if
you really want to preserve your data you need to do more than put  
it in the
cloud (or for that matter on a local storage device). It is not a  
panacea.
Just like if you were housing it locally you need to make sure you  
have

redundant copies.

Edward


Rosalyn Metz wrote:


I have to agree with Ed.  You should have a good policy in place for
backing
up your data.  Just throwing it on a server isn't a policy.

At the same time I would have to disagree with Ed.  You should  
look at S3

as
if it was your own server.  What is the guarantee that you supply  
to your
users with your own server.  The snap server we use here (instead  
of S3)

is
the back up to a back up system already in place.


On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Edward M. Corrado 
wrote:




Rosalyn's post  made me think of one more thing if you are  
looking

into
outside entities (such as we are), what are the terms of service  
and what
guarantee do they offer they won't lose your data? I believe that  
A3 does
not offer any guarantee, so if you go with them, you probably  
want to

have
some other form of storage as well. Even if they offered a  
guarantee,

what
good is it once they loose your documents you were trying to  
preserve?


Edward Corrado




Rosalyn Metz wrote:




Hi Edward,

Might I suggest you look into cloud computing services if you're  
looking

at
different options. (I know you're all shocked I suggested it).   
If our
budget weren't so abysmal (and going to get worse) we would be  
using it
right now rather than the snap server we purchased with leftover  
funds.

The
benefits of using the cloud is of course the elasticity it  
offers you.

The
negative is that you have to pay to put your files into the  
cloud and

then
pay again to take them out (and since we've already been slashed  
30% and

are
guaranteed another slash...that idea was shot down).

Of course the major player out there is Amazon S3.  The problem  
is that

you
can't use S3 via Amazon's Web Management Console.  But there is a
company
called RightScale (http://www.rightscale.com/index.php) which  
has a web
management console that allows you to upload files quickly and  
easily

without having to write scripts and what not.

Anyway, just my two cents.

Rosalyn



On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:10 AM, Edward Iglesias
wrote:






As I was trying to figure out what to do with half a terabyte of
archival TIFFS it occurred to me that perhaps someone else had  
this

problem.  We are starting to produce massive amounts of digital
objects (videos, archival TIFFS, audio interviews).  Up until  
now we
have been dealing with ways to display them to the public.  Now  
we are

starting to look at "dark archives" like OCLC's digital archive
product.  I would welcome any suggestions from those of you who  
have
dealt with this on an archival level.  It's one thing to stick  
the

stuff up on a server, but then what?  Our CIO suggested storage
appliances like this one


http://www.drobo.com/products/index.php

but I am wary of the proprietary RAID system.

Thanks in advance,



~
Edward Iglesias
Systems Librarian
Central Connecticut State University

Re: [CODE4LIB] anyone going to OLA Superconference this week?

[David J. Fiander]

Sounds like a good idea. If nothing else, it'll make the Top Tech
trends the next morning that much more interesting ;-)

- David

On 28-Jan-2008, at 19:33 , Elizabeth Sadler wrote:


Hey, if any code4lib people are going to be at the Ontario Library
Association superconference [1] in Toronto this weekend, Erik Hatcher
and I will be making up the Charlottesville, Virginia delegation and
we would love to get together for a night on the town Friday night.
Anyone up for a code4lib pub crawl in Toronto Friday night?

If so, email me and I'll coordinate.

Looking forward to being back in the motherland,
Bess


[1] I love that they call it that. It makes me think "Superbad!"



Elizabeth (Bess) Sadler
Research and Development Librarian
Digital Scholarship Services (DSS)
Box 400129
Alderman Library
University of Virginia
Charlottesville, VA 22904

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(434) 243-2305

[CODE4LIB] How to make a disco ball with CDs

[David J. Fiander]

Just in time to start working on it for Access 2008:

   http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Disco-Ball-With-CDs

- David

Re: [CODE4LIB] z39.50 holdings schema

[David J. Fiander]

Andrew,

My sense of NCIP is that it was designed primarly for communication
between agencies that have negotiated a trust relationship offline and
configured their systems to interoperate.

It's not clear to me that NCIP will work well as a protocol for
transmitting ad hoc queries from an untrusted client to a host in order
to discover information about an item. Is your experience/research into
NCIP showing you something different?

- David

Andrew Nagy wrote:

Emily - we are investingating NCIP quite a bit here for use with VuFind.  Maybe 
this might be an appropriate standard to standardize on?

Take care,
Andrew


-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Emily Lynema
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 9:42 AM
To: CODE4LIB@listserv.nd.edu
Subject: [CODE4LIB] z39.50 holdings schema

Anybody in this group have any experience using / implementing the
z39.50 holdings schema?

http://www.loc.gov/z3950/agency/defns/holdings1-4.html

As part of the DLF ILS Discovery Interface Task Force, we are looking
for a good schema to define holdings and item-related information (such
as circulation status). While MARCXML is always an option for MARC
holdings, I have the sense (aka, I know) that not all institutions /
ILSs create MARC holdings for all records. So it would be nice to have
a
schema into which it would be easy to translate either a MARC holdings
record or just local holdings stored in some other way + circulation
information.

The rumor on the street is that z39.50 holdings schema is too complex
and has never really been used. Anyone want to confirm or deny?

I'm also interested in the up and coming ISO Holdings Schema (ISO
20775)
that it sounds like has been motivated along by OCLC-PICA. But I don't
have much information on that, so I'd be interested in hearing from
anyone who knows more about that one, as well.


Thanks,
-emily
--
Emily Lynema
Systems Librarian for Digital Projects
Information Technology, NCSU Libraries
919-513-8031
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib listserv archives

[David J. Fiander]

Jeremy Frumkin wrote:

Yes. +1


You're only allowed to vote once.

I say 'yes', as long as the archives don't expose email addresses in a
format suitable for harvesting.

- David

--
David J. Fiander
Digital Services Librarian

[CODE4LIB] Problems with neat stuff in Facebook

[David J. Fiander]

So, there's a new "books" application in Facebook that lets one document
what one is currently reading and what's "on deck".  The problem is that it
expects to be able to find the book at amazon.whatever.

I suggested searching worldcat.org, so that those of us reading out of
print or other non-commercial stuff can post our readings (I was attempting
to indicate that I was about to start reading Berge's "The EDIFACT
Standards" [don't ask]).

Of course, just to reignite the licensing questions, one has to know, is a
free facebook plugin app "non-commercial", and how many hits against
worldcat.org might it make in a day?

- David
--
David J. Fiander
Digital Services Librarian

Re: [CODE4LIB] Using OpenID in libraries

[David J. Fiander]

Ross!  You're not supposed to actually _say_ it!

- David

On 22-Mar-07, at 23:37 , Ross Singer wrote:


On 3/22/07, Don McMorris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Ryan's message (I guess seeing "academia") made me think of Athens,
which made me further think "Hey, Subscription Databases are just
ITCHING for OpenID!".  I mean, come on... The methods we have for
database authentication aren't working well...



Well, naturally, academia has thought of this and overengineered it to
death:

http://shibboleth.internet2.edu/

which is why it's taken 7years so far and there is still very few
implementations.

-Ross.


--
David J. Fiander
Digital Services Librarian

Re: [CODE4LIB] Using OpenID in libraries

[David J. Fiander]

On 22-Mar-07, at 22:51 , Don McMorris wrote:



Now, if Novelist implemented OpenID, I could simply go straight there
(whether or not I've ever been there), I can just go to the Novelist
web site and enter the OpenID that I've set up with my library.  1
step, 1 set of credentials.  All is good.


Of course, this implies that I need a separate OpenID for ever
institution with which I'm affilliated, which kinda defeats the
purpose of the OpenID, I think.

- David

--
David J. Fiander
Digital Services Librarian

Re: [CODE4LIB] Using OpenID in libraries

[David J. Fiander]

On 22-Mar-07, at 22:09 , William Denton wrote:

Say I live in Lower Mowat but one day I'm in Upper Mowat, in the next
municipality (or county, or whatever) over, visiting my tailor.
The two
library systems are separate but share their resources.  I pop into
the
library to update my Twittering friends on my inseam measurement.
I don't
actually have an account at the Upper Mowat Library, but I log in
to one
of their computers using my Lower Mowat-supplied OpenID identifier,
and
the Upper Mowat system recognizes where I'm from and gives me
access to
everything.


Bill, this sounds intriguing.  The hard part of this process will be
federating the patron databases into the OpenID framework.

Right now some ILSs support querying an external LDAP server to
authenticate patrons (III does this for logging in to the opac to
place holds, for example), and some external systems support querying
the patron database to authenticate (certain wireless access points
and internet terminal management systems do this).

So, when I walk in to my library and set up my library account,
instead of them giving me a PIN with which to log in, I give them my
OpenID (they might still give me a PIN, so people without OpenIDs can
use the system, but I'll ignore it).  Then, when I attempt to access
services, I will select the "log in with my OpenID" option, it will
pass off to the OpenID infrastructure, which will return 'aye' or
'nay', and then I'll be in, and the ILS will look up my authenticated
OpenID in the patron database to find out how much money I owe in fines.

It's not clear to me that NCIP comes in to the process, since that's
a different (very heavy) way of passing authentication information
around that I don't think fits well with the OpenID framework, but
that something that I've have to look deeper into.

- David

--
David J. Fiander
Digital Services Librarian

Re: [CODE4LIB] Video encoding done - Mashup idea request

[David J. Fiander]

I second Roy's appreciation.  Just yesterday, I had a CS grad student
in my office who was wondering if there was some way to find video of
local symposia that other CS departments had hosted.

I had to tell him 'no'.  I didn't say, "but the librarians are
starting to do it!"

- David

On 15-Mar-07, at 21:01 , Roy Tennant wrote:


This is so wonderful to have the video available that I have a hard
time
figuring out how to express my appreciation. Being able to relive the
conference (for those of us who were there), or to experience it
for the
first time (for those of us who were not) is incredibly cool.

--
David J. Fiander
Digital Services Librarian

[CODE4LIB] Posting the conference video?

[David J. Fiander]

How about sending it to the Internet Archive?

- David

--
David J. Fiander
Digital Services Librarian

Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference site wireless update

[David J. Fiander]

On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:24:31 -0500, "Ben Ostrowsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> UGA required the Georgia Center to install a Bluesocket appliance, which
> as we've learned is a bit flaky under the load of a hundred geeks. The
> Georgia Center can open up firewall holes for us as far as that goes, but
> UGA's network also has egress filters and intrusion prevention systems
> that are causing havoc for us.

Did you know that the bluesocket appliance can query your ILS for user
authentication?  Well it can.  Sometime when we're in the same room, ask
me about trying to get it to work with Evergreen. (Notice that I did not
say, "get evergreen to work with it".)

- David

--
David J. Fiander
Digital Services Librarian

Re: [CODE4LIB] 2007 Conference Attendee List--Dumb question

[David J. Fiander]

Edward Summers wrote:
> The grim reality is we have three distinct systems at the moment:
> drupal, pwyky, trac and svn...each with their own authentication
> scheme...well trac and svn happen to share the same one.
This must be some southern definition of "three" with which I am
unfamiliar.  Or is it a case of

3 = 4, for sufficiently large values of 3

?

- David

Re: [CODE4LIB] Polls open for Code4Lib 2007 T-Shirt design

[David J. Fiander]

Given the way that American's in the past have treated British copyright:


In Chicago, I was assured by an enterprising pirate now retired, that
the sales throughout the United States had exceeded a million; and
although, in consequence of its having been published before the
Copyright Convention, this has brought me no material advantage, the
fame and popularity it has won for me among the American public is an
asset not to be despised. [Jerome, Jerome. "Author's Advertisment" in
Three Men in a Boat]


I think it's fair for an enterprising British attendee to return the
favour, since the image is not protected over there (or in Canada for that
matter).

Edward Corrado wrote:

I have no idea of the legal status of the photo, I believe the length of
 time for copyright in the USA is 75 years (unless your Disney, then it
 is for ever), thus it still may be covered on this side of the pond. I
 think we  need to clarify this before printing up a bunch of shirts
with this photo.

Edward - who doubts anyone will be chasing after code4lib but still, we
 should do things "the right way"

Rob Styles said the following on 1/29/2007 4:54 AM:

The photo is an original WWII photo from 1944, it's outside of the 50
 years covered by copyright here in the UK in is in use by several
different organisations. I believe we don't need any clearance.

rob


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I hate to be the one to raise this, but it seems like I must since
the design is leading in the polls, but do we have (or can we
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Re: [CODE4LIB] Information Technology Specialist in Office for Strategic Initiatives at the Library of Congress

[David J. Fiander]

Binkley, Peter wrote:

Those are impressive salaries! What's the cost of living like in
Washington?


Peter, I draw your attention to the phrase


The salary range indicated reflects the locality pay adjustments for the
Washington, D.C., Metropolitan area.



The DC metro region is _very_ expensive in general.

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Re: [CODE4LIB] ISBD punctuation was [CODE4LIB] Getting data from Voyager into XML?

[David J. Fiander]

Walter Lewis wrote:


Perhaps what Erik's put his finger on here is as good an excuse as any
to raise the Death To ISBD Punctuation banner one more time.  Some
60s/70s field termination punctuation rules are at the heart of most of
the crud you're trying to scrape off these records.  If ever there was a
set of encoding rules that were more misguided, I've been fortunate not
to encounter them.


The problem is not ISBD punctuation (which is, after all, just semantic
markup for humans), but ISBD punctuation _embedded in_ MARC markup, which
means we've got two layers of markup intermingled.  There's no reason to
store "semantic" punctuation when the semantic punctuation is clearly
implied by field or subfield delimiters.

But ISBD punctuation is really cool... especially if you've every looked at
an Asian or Cyrillic catalogue card and been able to identify the series
statement just from the punctuation.

- David

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Re: [CODE4LIB] NCIP API?

[David J. Fiander]

John,

Thanks for the pointers.  I've got a fistful of links for NCIP, but I don't
think I had that one for the Implementation Group.

One problem with the existing application profiles, which I mentioned to
Ted Koppel in Nashville, is that they require support for Implementation
Profile 1, the current XML-based protocol, with no clear text indicating
how they will cope with any implementation profiles that may be created in
the future.

I'm glad to hear that I only need to create code for the services required
by the particular application profile(s) that I plan on supporting.  I do
find it a bit odd that the fairly restrictive "Self Service Unmediated
Online Circulation" profile requires more services (14) than the general
inter-agency "Circ/ILL" profile that you tell me requires 8 services.

Once all the non-technical issues surrounding this project are all lined
up, I will definitely be asking lots of questions.

- David

John Bodfish wrote:

David:

When you begin planning your NCIP work you should review the NCIP
Implementation Group's web site (http://ncip.envisionware.com),
especially the Road Map to NCIP (in the "Documents" section). It
explains that you don't implement NCIP as such, in the sense of
implementing all 45+ services, let alone all the optional elements
within them.

The expectation was, and still is, that implementations conform to
"Application Profiles" such as the Circ/ILL Application Profile (see
http://vdxipedia.fdusa.com/index.php/Main_Page#NCIP_Interop_Information
for that profile and supporting documentation). That profile uses only 8
of the 45 services, and does not use many of the optional elements
within those services' messages. There are other Application Profiles
that cover other areas of NCIP usage listed on the NCIP IG's site.

If you have any questions I'm happy to answer them.

John Bodfish
Senior Technical Designer/Developer
OCLC PICA Inc.

-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
David J. Fiander
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 7:45 AM
To: CODE4LIB@listserv.nd.edu
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] NCIP API?

David Kane wrote:


I did get a reply on the list from Joshua Ferraro of LibLime, who said
that they began development on an open source SIP2 API, which was to

be

extended to NCIP functionality.  This extension to NCIP did not

happen.

This SIP2 api is now in use in the EvergreenILS and soon to be used in
the Koha ILS.


David,

I'm the person that wrote the Evergreen SIP2 code, and will probably be
the
person writing NCIP code in the future.  NCIP is a very large, very
complicated standard, so even once work starts on NCIP, it's going to
take
a while to complete.

- David

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Re: [CODE4LIB] NCIP API?

[David J. Fiander]

Edward Summers wrote:

On Jan 8, 2007, at 8:45 AM, David J. Fiander wrote:

I'm the person that wrote the Evergreen SIP2 code, and will
probably be the
person writing NCIP code in the future.  NCIP is a very large, very
complicated standard, so even once work starts on NCIP, it's going
to take
a while to complete.


Spoken like a true consultant :-)

//Ed


Hey, if it was easy, somebody would have already done it :P

- David

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Re: [CODE4LIB] NCIP API?

[David J. Fiander]

David Kane wrote:


I did get a reply on the list from Joshua Ferraro of LibLime, who said
that they began development on an open source SIP2 API, which was to be
extended to NCIP functionality.  This extension to NCIP did not happen.
This SIP2 api is now in use in the EvergreenILS and soon to be used in
the Koha ILS.


David,

I'm the person that wrote the Evergreen SIP2 code, and will probably be the
person writing NCIP code in the future.  NCIP is a very large, very
complicated standard, so even once work starts on NCIP, it's going to take
a while to complete.

- David

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Re: [CODE4LIB] Server names at libraries

[David J. Fiander]

So I guess you don't have a machine name Shawinigan then.

- David

On 27-Oct-06, at 09:08 , Walter Lewis wrote:


David J. Fiander wrote:

Naming computers is always fun.  My main computer at home is always
"Golem", and if I ever had had the power to name a series of
computers, I was going to name them after famous Canadian maritime
disasters ("Erebus" and "Terror" were going to be the first two).

My development machines have always been named after ships that have
been named after something else, just to supply both a theme and an
inside joke. A sad pathetic life perhaps, but there it is.  So I'm
writing this on Bohemian, while testing some code on Corinthian, and
pulling email from Assiniboia.

That said, I've always *avoided* ship names associated with major
collisions and fires.  So I'll leave Noronic, Hammonic, and
Bavarian for
David.  :)

RFC 1178 (http://www.apps.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1178.html) has some good
dos and don'ts for naming a computer, and is a pretty fun read too.

That *has* to be the most interesting RFC it has ever been my pleasure
to read

Walter


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Re: [CODE4LIB] Server names at libraries

[David J. Fiander]

Naming computers is always fun.  My main computer at home is always
"Golem", and if I ever had had the power to name a series of
computers, I was going to name them after famous Canadian maritime
disasters ("Erebus" and "Terror" were going to be the first two).

RFC 1178 (http://www.apps.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1178.html) has some good
dos and don'ts for naming a computer, and is a pretty fun read too.

- David

On 27-Oct-06, at 07:58 , K.G. Schneider wrote:


You mean like Huey, Dewey and Louie? (I'll never tell where...'twas
a long
time ago...and the servers were named pre-Internet and suddenly
became er,
more visible.)

I've always enjoyed the library server names that sounded
sophisticated and
evil... "darkstar" etc reminds me of our tabby cat thinking
she's a
cruel-hearted tiger as she pounces on a cloth mouse.

Karen G. Schneider
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: [CODE4LIB] Musings on using xISBN in our Horizon catalog

[David J. Fiander]

I've been watching all this discussion about creating a "group id" for a
set of ISBNs, and I'm wondering if I'm missing something.

Since the collection of ISBNs can be treated as an equivalence class,
can't any arbitrary member of the class be designated as the group
identifier?  This eliminates the need to create a synthetic id, and it
means that, for singular items, there's no need to create a separate
group id.

In fact, assuming that a library has a single item, that ISBN is
designated as the "group id" for the group of one thing.  Then, when the
library acquires a second item that should be part of the group, it
should be easy to update the equivalence class.

- David

Hickey,Thom wrote:

Right now there isn't a stable identifier for the clusters in xISBN.
OCLC-PICA is looking into how OCLC could supply that to help local
catalogs group there items, though.

--Th


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From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Ben Ostrowsky
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 8:54 AM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Musings on using xISBN in our Horizon catalog

I appreciate all the comments thus far and I hope my chiming in again
won't shut anybody up.

I'll see if there's a cheap way to query the live database, as Mike
Rylander suggests.

If not, I'm thinking about how to be sure I don't have duplicate work
IDs.  Here's the scenario:

1. We query xISBN for a particular book and get a set of related ISBNs.

2. We check the catalog and derive a set of related ISBNs in our
catalog.

3. We cache this derived set by assigning an auto-incrementing sequence
number to that set and linking it to each member of the derived set.

4. A new edition of the same work becomes available.  We add it to our
catalog.  When we query the local xISBN server, it finds no matching
records.  So we query xISBN and get the set consisting of all the old
ISBNs plus the ISBN of the new edition.

5. We check this new result set against the catalog and cache the result
by assigning an auto-incrementing sequence number.

6. Someone looks up one of the old editions.

7. We query the local cache and find... What?  Duplicate ISBNs that we
have to de-dupe on the fly each time?  Inelegant, to be sure.

That's why I'd love to know whether the xISBN database uses a common
identifier for each set of ISBNs, and whether (and I know 'pretty
please' is a poor justification for changing an API) it might be exposed
for this reason.

Am I making an invalid assumption here?  Or might there be a way to
tweak the algorithm so that we don't run into this problem?

Ben



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Re: [CODE4LIB] code4lib journal

[David J. Fiander]

K.G. Schneider wrote:


"High-speed Internet" AND (((wifi OR Ethernet) AND room) or (Ethernet AND
lobby))


I think that the last part of that search should be

   (((wifi OR Ethernet) AND room) OR (wifi AND lobby))

One hardly wants a lobby full of ethernet jacks into which people are
plugged.  The fire marshal would probably have a conniption.

- David
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Re: [CODE4LIB] code4lib journal

[David J. Fiander]

Eric Hellman wrote:


Also, here's a serious question: What will AACR force as the
capitalization for the cataloguing title?


Recent revisions of the green monster have made allowance for odd
capitalizations, and this would stand as

   /dev/lib/: a journal for library programmers

since /Dev/lib is a different thing.

- David

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Re: [CODE4LIB] The joy of serials

[David J. Fiander]

Jonathan Gorman wrote:


So every fourth (and A) issue would be a "code4lib journal", "/lib/dev/"
and "Indexed" series issue, while those with articles containing the word
"Regex" would be also be in the "Possibly Perl Series" which will be
incremented according to the m . (n . i) where n is the previous number of
i in the last of the series and m is the phase of the moon.


Don't forget the German journal that was, coincidentally, founding in 1901,
so the volume number was exactly the same as the two-digit year number.
After publication was resumed after break during the mid-40s, they skipped
the journal numbers that hadn't been published to maintain the
correspondence between the year and the volume.

Those wacky Germans!


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Re: [CODE4LIB] code4lib journal

[David J. Fiander]

Eric Hellman wrote:

I suppose that I shall have to write an article for the journal
entitled "Code 4 dealing gracefully with idiotic journal names".

Our software has exception code for "THE Journal",  but it still is a
problem.


Don't get my library's music librarian started on "The The", and then
there's the Canadian political commentary journal, "This Magazine", which
while it doesn't cause a problem for the software, is terribly confusing
just in general.

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Re: [CODE4LIB] code4lib journal

[David J. Fiander]

K.G. Schneider wrote:


Particularly since one librarian's solidus is another librarian's virgule...


"Solidus" is the name given to the glyph by ISO in it's character set
documents, as I recall, although I don't have a reference close at hand.
Interestingly, Wikipedia claims that the solidus and the virgule are
typographically distinct, with the solidus being "significantly more
oblique than the virgule."  But then, it goes on to say that we use the
virgule in our URLs, since that's what we get on the keyboard.[1]

[1] See the last paragraph of the section "English" in the entry "Slash
(punctuation)" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slash_(punctuation)#English

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Re: [CODE4LIB] code4lib journal

[David J. Fiander]

Thomas Dowling wrote:

The editors of THE Journal suggest we establish a 246 field for "Slash
Lib Slash Dev".


Of course, the media's penchant for referring to the solidus as a
"backslash" is going to be a serious problem for any such move to provide
parallel title information.

- David

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