Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Logo?

[Wally Grotophorst]

I'll vote no on a logo.   Not interested in adopting corporate mentality.

-- Wally



Jonathan Rochkind wrote:
To me, a committee of volunteers that anyone interested can be on _is_ 
a community decision.


This is sort of a philosophical discussion/debate we've had before.  
Some people think "community democracy" contradicts having a certain 
specific committee, community democracy requires that everyone 
involved in the community can step in and step out at any time, can 
participate in every decision even if they hadn't participated in 
previous decisions, etc.  Me, I don't think that's a requirement, and 
I think there are often problems with that approach. To me, 
establishing a committee which is open to any volunteers---but which 
carries with it the expectation that serving on the committee is 
accepting responsibility for getting stuff done---is community 
democracy too, and often preferable.


In this case, I think either could work, whatever people who want to 
spend time organizing it want to organize. (Ah, but again, the 
recognition that there will be some certain people who spend time 
organizing it.  If it's going to happen, that's just a fact, some 
people will really take on and do the work, that's how it works. 
That's why I'd say, okay, call them a committee. Certainly, the 
opinions of anyone in the committee should be taken into account by 
those doing the work, but I don't have a lot of patience for people 
who demand unlimited decision making power without accepting 
responsibility for work.).


Jonathan

Edward M. Corrado wrote:
I am all for a logo, but I also agree with Kevin it needs to be a 
community
based decision. I'm also not sold that we need a professional 
designed logo,

but I'm not against it either. I can understand why a business would not
want to leave it to amateurs (although I have seen some great logos 
created
by design school students) but I'm not sure what a professional logo 
would
give us that a community derived one wouldn't. Roy, what do you think 
that

would be that would gain by using a professional logo company?

Edward - actually wearing a code4lib conference t-shirt right now




On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 11:48 PM, Carol Bean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:


 

Well, looking at Software Freedom Day, which has somehow managed to get
itself a logo with virtually no organizational infrastructure, I 
don't see

why Code4Lib shouldn't.  I suspect their logo design wasn't done by
amateurs, however, even if they were volunteers.  Of course they 
have a much

larger, global base of  volunteers...

I think it's a cool idea.

Carol




On Sep 19, 2008, at 11:39 PM, Kevin S. Clarke wrote:

 I like the idea.  A real logo would be nice.  My one caveat is I'd
   

still like everyone who'd like to have a voice to have one (I like
voting).  I'd be less in favor of a committee of volunteers to make
the decision.  I don't know how that would work with a professional
graphic designer though.  Could they give us several options and open
it up to a vote?

Kevin



On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 11:29 PM, Roy Tennant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:


 
I was in the middle of writing a blog post about Code4Lib going 
regional
when it hit me -- here we have this incredibly successful brand 
and yet

we
lack a t-shirt. But I guess we lack a t-shirt because we lack a 
logo to

put
on it. The closest we get are the items that decorate our web 
site. Are

we
at the point where we're ready to establish an official graphic 
identity,

that can grace our web site, journal, conference, etc.? I think so.

So here's my proposal: we take some of the money that has been passed
down
from conference to conference and we hire a graphic designer to do a
professional job of it. Branding is best not left to amateurs. We put
together a committee of volunteers to handle it.

I know of at least one design firm that I think would do a good job,
since
they just designed a t-shirt for OCLC that we really liked, and 
they were

delighted to work with library coders. See
. There are no doubt 
others as

well.

One of the nice things about a logo is that although it establishes a
solid
graphic identity, it doesn't really take any organizational
infrastructure
to do it, which seems to fit right in with the c4l vibe. So am I 
crazy?

Stupid? Or right? You decide.
Roy




--
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who believe there
are two kinds of people and those who know better.

  

Carol Bean
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




  

[CODE4LIB] Zotero under attack

[wally grotophorst]

http://www.courthousenews.com/2008/09/17/Reuters_Says_George_Mason_University_Is_Handing_Out_Its_Proprietary_Software.htm

I guess stuff like this is what gives me that anti-corporate bias...

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Logo

[wally grotophorst]

I'll risk ostracism and admit that I think this concern with a logo is  
a little too corporate for my sensibilities.


-- Wally



On Sep 23, 2008, at 9:38 AM, Edward M. Corrado wrote:

I am still not convinced we need a professional designed logo, but  
it seems most people who responded to this thread do, so I'm happy  
to go along with it. Personally, I'd just type "code4lib" in  
Helvitica, save it as a .png and be done with it :-).


Compared to the other links we have seen, I like what I have seen on  
Stephanie Brinley's site better than the other sites that were  
posted. The logos are simple, yet memorable and in some way elegant.  
At any point, it seems we should have some sort of vote and come to  
a decision on how we are going to proceed.


If I recall, our choices are:

1) Go with http://www.sanchezcircuit.com/catalog/
2) Go with Susan Brinley's Adelie Design http://www.AdelieDesign.com/
3) Use a design contest method on http://99designs.com/
4) Have people submit a logo for the community to vote on like we  
did for conference t-shirts


Has there been any other options discussed (or that should be  
discussed)?


Edward


Carol Bean wrote:
I don't know who Roy or the others have in mind, but I like what I  
see at

adeliedesign.com.

Given her requirements, which don't seem too unreasonable, I wonder  
if we
could start with the code4lib community making the choice of which  
designer

to work with?

Carol

On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 8:47 AM, Stephanie Brinley <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Dear Code4Lib,

Because I'm not a coder or a librarian, I am not a member of the  
Code4Lib
community. However, my husband Jonathan, who is a member, told me  
about the
logo thread Roy started last week. As a professional designer, I  
agree with
Roy that Code4Lib could use a well-designed logo to bring its  
activities

under a unified brand.

Having close ties, I would like to do my part to help out your  
community.

To
that end, I am volunteering to design a logo for Code4Lib. My one  
request
would be that you actually work with me as a professional  
designer, rather
than turning this into an open contest. Code4Lib is many things to  
many
people. Reconciling these perspectives into a single brand is, as  
Roy said,
not an amateur task, and will require some coordination to merge  
the input

and ideas from the community.

As for the process, I think Roy has it right. Form a small  
committee to
handle the details and distill the opinions of the community at  
large. I'll
start with a few drafts the committee and community can comment  
on, and

we'll go from there.

What do you think?

Sincerely,
Stephanie Brinley
President, Adelie Design

http://www.AdelieDesign.com/

Re: [CODE4LIB] Calendar Data Exchange

[wally grotophorst]

calDev?

-- wally

Wally Grotophorst
Associate University Librarian
Digital Programs and Systems
University Libraries
George Mason University
Fairfax, Virginia 22030
(703) 993-9005


Cloutman, David wrote:

Does anyone have a recommend standard XML format for the exchange of
calendar information, preferably something with a W3C standard? We want
to be able to publish data from our content management system in a
format that other calendars in our community could scoop up.

Thanks,

- David



---
David Cloutman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Electronic Services Librarian
Marin County Free Library 


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[CODE4LIB] Position Announcement - Digitial Library Developer

[wally grotophorst]

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Re: [CODE4LIB] Server names at libraries

[wally grotophorst]

I named our original Voyager server "majel" ... after the name of the
actress who did the computer voice on the Voyager star trek series.

Our current Voyager server is "breeze"  ... a Sun V880 that sounds like
a hurricane on startup as all the fans kick in.

-- wally

wally grotophorst
george mason university
http://timesync.gmu.edu/wordpress




... I'm for-sure that most librarians don't even know our servers have
names.