[CODE4LIB] [Fwd: z39.50 holdings schema]
Wow, I've never sent a message accidentally when trying to copy-paste before. It must be a Monday morning. I meant to include the URL to just about the only (promising-sounding) snippet of information I've found about the ISO Holdings Schema: http://www.oclcpica.org/dasat/index.php?cid=100867conid=102196 -emily Original Message Subject: z39.50 holdings schema Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 09:41:53 -0500 From: Emily Lynema [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: NCSU Libraries To: Code for Libraries CODE4LIB@listserv.nd.edu Anybody in this group have any experience using / implementing the z39.50 holdings schema? http://www.loc.gov/z3950/agency/defns/holdings1-4.html As part of the DLF ILS Discovery Interface Task Force, we are looking for a good schema to define holdings and item-related information (such as circulation status). While MARCXML is always an option for MARC holdings, I have the sense (aka, I know) that not all institutions / ILSs create MARC holdings for all records. So it would be nice to have a schema into which it would be easy to translate either a MARC holdings record or just local holdings stored in some other way + circulation information. The rumor on the street is that z39.50 holdings schema is too complex and has never really been used. Anyone want to confirm or deny? I'm also interested in the up and coming ISO Holdings Schema (ISO 20775) that it sounds like has been motivated along by OCLC-PICA. But I don't have much information on that, so I'd be interested in hearing from anyone who knows more about that one, as well. Thanks, -emily -- Emily Lynema Systems Librarian for Digital Projects Information Technology, NCSU Libraries 919-513-8031 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Emily Lynema Systems Librarian for Digital Projects Information Technology, NCSU Libraries 919-513-8031 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [CODE4LIB] [Fwd: z39.50 holdings schema]
Emily, My colleague from OCLC, Janifer Gatenby ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) asked me to pass along a link to her paper at ILDS in Singapore, New standards for resource delivery: bridging the gap between discovery and delivery. The link to it is: http://www.nlbconference.com/ilds/plenary4B.htm She also reports that an XML version of the schema will soon be available on the Library of Congress web page at: http://www.loc.gov/isohold/ Janifer says, The standard is far from complicated. It much simplifies the previous Z39.50 holdings schema. Hopefully the diagrams in my presentation will help. You can contact Janifer directly at the email address shown above. Best regards, Chuck Costakos OCLC -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Emily Lynema Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 9:47 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] [Fwd: z39.50 holdings schema] Wow, I've never sent a message accidentally when trying to copy-paste before. It must be a Monday morning. I meant to include the URL to just about the only (promising-sounding) snippet of information I've found about the ISO Holdings Schema: http://www.oclcpica.org/dasat/index.php?cid=100867conid=102196 -emily Original Message Subject: z39.50 holdings schema Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 09:41:53 -0500 From: Emily Lynema [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: NCSU Libraries To: Code for Libraries CODE4LIB@listserv.nd.edu Anybody in this group have any experience using / implementing the z39.50 holdings schema? http://www.loc.gov/z3950/agency/defns/holdings1-4.html As part of the DLF ILS Discovery Interface Task Force, we are looking for a good schema to define holdings and item-related information (such as circulation status). While MARCXML is always an option for MARC holdings, I have the sense (aka, I know) that not all institutions / ILSs create MARC holdings for all records. So it would be nice to have a schema into which it would be easy to translate either a MARC holdings record or just local holdings stored in some other way + circulation information. The rumor on the street is that z39.50 holdings schema is too complex and has never really been used. Anyone want to confirm or deny? I'm also interested in the up and coming ISO Holdings Schema (ISO 20775) that it sounds like has been motivated along by OCLC-PICA. But I don't have much information on that, so I'd be interested in hearing from anyone who knows more about that one, as well. Thanks, -emily -- Emily Lynema Systems Librarian for Digital Projects Information Technology, NCSU Libraries 919-513-8031 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Emily Lynema Systems Librarian for Digital Projects Information Technology, NCSU Libraries 919-513-8031 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [CODE4LIB] [Fwd: z39.50 holdings schema]
I'd encourage people to check out the ONIX Serial Holdings format too, when looking at all that is available for structured reprsentation of serial holdings specifically. It's a newly released standard. Reviewing it myself, I was quite impressed with it's flexibility combined with elegance/ease of use. Does the job of expressing what parts of a particular serial are held, although doesn't necessarily do other parts of the job that a library control system would need. But this part is what I, as a developer writing discovery systems, need most and fail to get from current systems. Jonathan Costakos,Chuck wrote: Emily, My colleague from OCLC, Janifer Gatenby ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) asked me to pass along a link to her paper at ILDS in Singapore, New standards for resource delivery: bridging the gap between discovery and delivery. The link to it is: http://www.nlbconference.com/ilds/plenary4B.htm She also reports that an XML version of the schema will soon be available on the Library of Congress web page at: http://www.loc.gov/isohold/ Janifer says, The standard is far from complicated. It much simplifies the previous Z39.50 holdings schema. Hopefully the diagrams in my presentation will help. You can contact Janifer directly at the email address shown above. Best regards, Chuck Costakos OCLC -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Emily Lynema Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 9:47 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] [Fwd: z39.50 holdings schema] Wow, I've never sent a message accidentally when trying to copy-paste before. It must be a Monday morning. I meant to include the URL to just about the only (promising-sounding) snippet of information I've found about the ISO Holdings Schema: http://www.oclcpica.org/dasat/index.php?cid=100867conid=102196 -emily Original Message Subject: z39.50 holdings schema Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 09:41:53 -0500 From: Emily Lynema [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: NCSU Libraries To: Code for Libraries CODE4LIB@listserv.nd.edu Anybody in this group have any experience using / implementing the z39.50 holdings schema? http://www.loc.gov/z3950/agency/defns/holdings1-4.html As part of the DLF ILS Discovery Interface Task Force, we are looking for a good schema to define holdings and item-related information (such as circulation status). While MARCXML is always an option for MARC holdings, I have the sense (aka, I know) that not all institutions / ILSs create MARC holdings for all records. So it would be nice to have a schema into which it would be easy to translate either a MARC holdings record or just local holdings stored in some other way + circulation information. The rumor on the street is that z39.50 holdings schema is too complex and has never really been used. Anyone want to confirm or deny? I'm also interested in the up and coming ISO Holdings Schema (ISO 20775) that it sounds like has been motivated along by OCLC-PICA. But I don't have much information on that, so I'd be interested in hearing from anyone who knows more about that one, as well. Thanks, -emily -- Emily Lynema Systems Librarian for Digital Projects Information Technology, NCSU Libraries 919-513-8031 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Emily Lynema Systems Librarian for Digital Projects Information Technology, NCSU Libraries 919-513-8031 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jonathan Rochkind Digital Services Software Engineer The Sheridan Libraries Johns Hopkins University 410.516.8886 rochkind (at) jhu.edu
Re: [CODE4LIB] [Fwd: z39.50 holdings schema]
just here: http://blogs.talis.com/panlibus/archives/2007/12/ the_library_20_1.php rob On 17 Dec 2007, at 16:55, Andrew Nagy wrote: Where is Roy and his manifesto when you need him!
Re: [CODE4LIB] [Fwd: z39.50 holdings schema]
It is also my understanding that while the Voyager NCIP API supports their ILL product, it was not meant to serve as a general purpose NCIP API. I believe that that accounts for the lack of (customer) documentation. Back in March of 2004, the then Endeavor Voyager Product Manager discussed their plans for further development of Voyager's NCIP API, and I don't think things have changed much since then [1]. If you've heard (or know) different, please let us (Voyager customers) know. I've had my eye on NCIP as an API for quite some time. Michael - thanks for the feedback. I agree with everyone else that NCIP is not the killer app with ILS interoperability - but it's the closest thing we have at this moment. What I am invisioning with VuFind is a base class that does NCIP functionality and then specialized classes for each ILS that tweaks the NCIP messages. From what I have heard - Voyager 7 is supposed to have a much fuller NCIP implementation and I believe the same story for SirsiDynix. But these are just that - stories. Also I believe both Evergreen and Koha have NCIP as well. Andrew
