Re: [CODE4LIB] Google Analytics/Do Not Track

2012-10-31 Thread Roberto Hoyle 
One thing that I wanted to add to this discussion...

DNT expresses a preference that the user's information not be tracked, stored, 
etc.  It is an orthogonal question to analytics.  Google Analytics can be used 
to track users, but it does not need to be used to track them if all that you 
are doing is collecting aggregate statistics.

r.

On Oct 31, 2012, at 9:09 AM, Nathan Tallman  wrote:

> Thank you Josh and Roberto for the information.
> 
> Nathan
> 
> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 8:25 AM, Josh Wilson  wrote:
> 
>> These sites were helpful to me to understand exactly what DNT is doing and
>> what affect it will have:
>> 
>> http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/browser/donottrack/default.html
>> http://donottrack.us/
>> 
>> As a previous reply mentions, it's more of a preference flag to tell sites
>> how to behave (which they can respect or not), rather than anything
>> different in one's browser. It doesn't turn off cookies or javascript, for
>> example, which would have a real affect on Google Analytics.
>>

Re: [CODE4LIB] Google Analytics/Do Not Track

2012-10-31 Thread Nathan Tallman 
Thank you Josh and Roberto for the information.

Nathan

On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 8:25 AM, Josh Wilson  wrote:

> These sites were helpful to me to understand exactly what DNT is doing and
> what affect it will have:
>
> http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/browser/donottrack/default.html
> http://donottrack.us/
>
> As a previous reply mentions, it's more of a preference flag to tell sites
> how to behave (which they can respect or not), rather than anything
> different in one's browser. It doesn't turn off cookies or javascript, for
> example, which would have a real affect on Google Analytics.
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] Google Analytics/Do Not Track

2012-10-31 Thread Josh Wilson 
These sites were helpful to me to understand exactly what DNT is doing and what 
affect it will have:

http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/browser/donottrack/default.html
http://donottrack.us/

As a previous reply mentions, it's more of a preference flag to tell sites how 
to behave (which they can respect or not), rather than anything different in 
one's browser. It doesn't turn off cookies or javascript, for example, which 
would have a real affect on Google Analytics.

Re: [CODE4LIB] Google Analytics/Do Not Track

2012-10-30 Thread Nathan Tallman 
No, Stuart, you are not right. That is not what I said, nor was it implied.
I was simply asking how such a browser feature might affect Google
Analytics.

Nathan

On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 5:19 PM, stuart yeates wrote:

> On 31/10/12 09:51, Nathan Tallman wrote:
>
>> After all the hoopla this year it looks as if all the major browsers plan
>> to implement a "do not track" feature that users can enable. Does anyone
>> know if this will block Google Analytics  It's probably too early to tell,
>> but my guess is yes...
>>
>
> Let me get this right. You want to track users after they have expressed
> an explicit desire not to be tracked? The link you're after is
> http://www.ala.org/offices/**oif/statementspols/**ftrstatement/**
> freedomreadstatement
>
> cheers
> stuart
> --
> Stuart Yeates
> Library Technology Services 
> http://www.victoria.ac.nz/**library/
>
>

Re: [CODE4LIB] Google Analytics/Do Not Track

2012-10-30 Thread stuart yeates 

On 31/10/12 09:51, Nathan Tallman wrote:

After all the hoopla this year it looks as if all the major browsers plan
to implement a "do not track" feature that users can enable. Does anyone
know if this will block Google Analytics  It's probably too early to tell,
but my guess is yes...


Let me get this right. You want to track users after they have expressed 
an explicit desire not to be tracked? The link you're after is 
http://www.ala.org/offices/oif/statementspols/ftrstatement/freedomreadstatement


cheers
stuart
--
Stuart Yeates
Library Technology Services http://www.victoria.ac.nz/library/

Re: [CODE4LIB] Google Analytics/Do Not Track

2012-10-30 Thread Roberto Hoyle 
On Oct 30, 2012, at 4:51 PM, Nathan Tallman  wrote:

> After all the hoopla this year it looks as if all the major browsers plan
> to implement a "do not track" feature that users can enable. Does anyone
> know if this will block Google Analytics  It's probably too early to tell,
> but my guess is yes...

I doubt it.

DNT is a flag that is set by a browser but the server decides whether or not to 
honor it.  Servers are currently under no obligation to honor them and several 
companies have publicly stated that they will ignore it.

r.

[CODE4LIB] Google Analytics/Do Not Track

2012-10-30 Thread Nathan Tallman 
After all the hoopla this year it looks as if all the major browsers plan
to implement a "do not track" feature that users can enable. Does anyone
know if this will block Google Analytics  It's probably too early to tell,
but my guess is yes...

Thanks,
Nathan