Re: [CODE4LIB] Same CMS for both Intranet and Public websites?

2011-06-10 Thread Keith Jenkins
We are using Confluence here, campus-wide -- not just for the
libraries.  The campus installation has over 200 spaces (projects),
some of which are public, some private.  You can also have private
pages within a public space, and vice versa.  You can change
permissions on any page, and pages inherit permissions by hierarchy,
so it is pretty easy to set up a private section of a public space,
etc.

However, there were some issues I encountered a while back, when
trying to move a private page into the public part of the page
hierarchy: it was telling me that the page had no restrictions, but
apparently no one else could see it.  This problem may have been fixed
in our recent upgrade, although I've just gotten used to the
workaround we found (adding another restriction and then removing it).

Keith


On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 10:21 PM, Cary Gordon  wrote:
> FWIW, we prefer Confluence for documentation-centric intranets.


Re: [CODE4LIB] Same CMS for both Intranet and Public websites?

2011-06-09 Thread Cary Gordon
FWIW, we prefer Confluence for documentation-centric intranets.

Cary

On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Cary Gordon  wrote:
> We have been building Drupal sites for libraries for the last six
> years. We have done public facing and intranet sites, sometimes as a
> single package, but more often as separate systems. The decision is
> based on your needs, not the tool. That said, I would suggest that you
> use the same tool for both, so that you can consolidate system
> administration and maintenance. Modern CMSs are flexible enough to
> handle a wide range of requirements.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Cary
>
> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Debra Kurtz  wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Do any of you work in libraries that use the same content management system 
>> for both their intranet and public websites?  I'm interested in learning 
>> what tool and how well (or not) you like it.  I'm especially interested in 
>> hearing from those of you involved in the selection and implementation of 
>> these tools.
>>
>> Thank you in advance,
>>
>> -debra
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Cary Gordon
> The Cherry Hill Company
> http://chillco.com
>



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Re: [CODE4LIB] Same CMS for both Intranet and Public websites?

2011-06-09 Thread Brice Stacey
It's generally a bad idea to bundle them together in the same package
(e.g. the same Drupal installation), but it's probably wise to use the
same CMS to minimize overhead (technical, training, etc).

With that said, I implemented both on the same installation. It's a
nightmare in the long run (particularly securing uploaded files,
ensuring SSL for the intranet, restricting access to intranet to certain
IP range, updating the intranet without disrupting the public website,
etc), but it's the most easy to get up to speed (all you have to do is
create a new content type and restrict read/write access to specific
roles).

Brice Stacey


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Subject: [CODE4LIB] Same CMS for both Intranet and Public websites?

Hi All,

Do any of you work in libraries that use the same content management
system for both their intranet and public websites?  I'm interested in
learning what tool and how well (or not) you like it.  I'm especially
interested in hearing from those of you involved in the selection and
implementation of these tools.

Thank you in advance,

-debra


Re: [CODE4LIB] Same CMS for both Intranet and Public websites?

2011-06-09 Thread Giulio Bonanome
> Hi All,
>
> Do any of you work in libraries that use the same content management
> system for both their intranet and public websites?  I'm interested in
> learning what tool and how well (or not) you like it.  I'm especially
> interested in hearing from those of you involved in the selection and
> implementation of these tools.

Hi,

for the public website we are using Silverstripe CMS. It seems easy to
learn how to edit and organize content for whom never use a CMS. The
framework for developing isn't so friendly, but there's a good community
where ask, modules, widgets and themes.
For the intranet, our ILS have a sort of wiki inside that allow easy
messaging and file sharing. But, personally, I prefer a real wiki (like
dokuWiki).

Cheers
Giulio

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Re: [CODE4LIB] Same CMS for both Intranet and Public websites?

2011-06-09 Thread Junior Tidal
We use Drupal for our public website and an internal wiki (MediaWiki) for our 
intranet. 

We selected Drupal for some obvious reasons. You don't need to code, you can 
use the internal editor within the page to make changes, and there's no need to 
connect to the server via FTP or shell. 

MediaWiki was selected because we manage a lot of internal documents. I 
personally installed both systems, and I didn't want to use the same system for 
two different purposes. I felt like that would confuse a lot of users (myself 
included). 

I hope that helps. Please let me know if you have any further questions. 

Best,

Junior Tidal
Assistant Professor
Web Services and Multimedia Librarian
New York City College of Technology, CUNY 
300 Jay Street
Brooklyn, NY 11210
718.260.5481
 
http://library.citytech.cuny.edu


>>> Debra Kurtz  6/9/2011 12:56 PM >>>
Hi All,

Do any of you work in libraries that use the same content management system for 
both their intranet and public websites?  I'm interested in learning what tool 
and how well (or not) you like it.  I'm especially interested in hearing from 
those of you involved in the selection and implementation of these tools.

Thank you in advance,

-debra


Re: [CODE4LIB] Same CMS for both Intranet and Public websites?

2011-06-09 Thread Cary Gordon
We have been building Drupal sites for libraries for the last six
years. We have done public facing and intranet sites, sometimes as a
single package, but more often as separate systems. The decision is
based on your needs, not the tool. That said, I would suggest that you
use the same tool for both, so that you can consolidate system
administration and maintenance. Modern CMSs are flexible enough to
handle a wide range of requirements.

Thanks,

Cary

On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Debra Kurtz  wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Do any of you work in libraries that use the same content management system 
> for both their intranet and public websites?  I'm interested in learning what 
> tool and how well (or not) you like it.  I'm especially interested in hearing 
> from those of you involved in the selection and implementation of these tools.
>
> Thank you in advance,
>
> -debra
>



-- 
Cary Gordon
The Cherry Hill Company
http://chillco.com


Re: [CODE4LIB] Same CMS for both Intranet and Public websites?

2011-06-09 Thread Patrick Berry
While we don't use it for precisely this scenario, it would be pretty simple
to implement.  We use Cascade from Hannon Hill.  It was the tool that best
fit our model of web site management (aka complete chaos).  I was involved
in selecting Cascade, so if you want to know more about that just hit me up
off-list.

The "wins":
Publishes static files, so the CMS isn't the web server
LDAP Auth
Template system allowing for easy site creation while still maintaining
control over the page structure.
Multiple publishing targets (pushes over SFTP)

The "fails":
It doesn't magically update your content based on what you're thinking that
day.

On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Debra Kurtz  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Do any of you work in libraries that use the same content management system
> for both their intranet and public websites?  I'm interested in learning
> what tool and how well (or not) you like it.  I'm especially interested in
> hearing from those of you involved in the selection and implementation of
> these tools.
>
> Thank you in advance,
>
> -debra
>


Re: [CODE4LIB] Same CMS for both Intranet and Public websites?

2011-06-09 Thread Joel Richard

On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 12:56:44 -0400, Debra Kurtz wrote:

Hi All,

Do any of you work in libraries that use the same content management
system for both their intranet and public websites?  I'm interested 
in

learning what tool and how well (or not) you like it.  I'm especially
interested in hearing from those of you involved in the selection and
implementation of these tools.

Thank you in advance,

-debra


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j...@joelrichard.com
(703) 303-2334


[CODE4LIB] Same CMS for both Intranet and Public websites?

2011-06-09 Thread Debra Kurtz
Hi All,

Do any of you work in libraries that use the same content management system for 
both their intranet and public websites?  I'm interested in learning what tool 
and how well (or not) you like it.  I'm especially interested in hearing from 
those of you involved in the selection and implementation of these tools.

Thank you in advance,

-debra