Re: [CODE4LIB] iPads as Kiosks
David Uspal wrote: > Then again, by selecting the iPad you're essentially tethered to > Apple's iron grip of the iWorld via its iTunes vetting process and > strict control of Apple hardware. YMMV on this depending on what > you're doing, but it should definitely be a consideration when > choosing between Android tablets and the iPad. Only if you go the native app route. I ruthlessly adapted Intuity's Notabene app code to create an HTML5 kiosk app. http://blog.intuitymedialab.eu/2010/05/19/intuitys-notabene-rapid-html5-prototyping-on-the-ipad/ Bill
Re: [CODE4LIB] iPads as Kiosks
Just my two bobs ; We're going through various stages of testing out tablets for both kiosks *and* portable workstations (for nurses and staff), and have tried out iPads and various Androids, and our current favorite is actually the Asus Eee Pad Transformer, a vanilla (but good quality) Honeycomb Android during day, but with a snap-on keyboard with extra ports and batteries for some netbook action at night, so it satisfies both our criteria. As with all things, it also depends on what software you want to run. If you go with iPad you need to go through Apple's various restrictions, while on Android you can use whatever you want. For a "you are here" tablet a cheap 150$ Android seems like a good option, too. Regards, Alex On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 11:51 PM, Madrigal, Juan A wrote: > That零 the equivalent to $25/month and includes support for your whole > development team/institution. > > If your employer can't afford that then I suggest you look for a new job! > ;) > > Juan Madrigal > > Web Developer > Web and Emerging Technologies > University of Miami > Richter Library > > > > On 8/23/11 2:21 PM, "Dan Funk" wrote: > >>Wow, just $300/year and you can run your own software on your own >>hardware? What a deal. >> >>On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 2:13 PM, David Uspal >>wrote: >>> Thanks for the update. This definitely solves that issue -- its >>>unfortunate this wasn't in place in 2009, or I'd be into year two of a >>>five year contract... >>> >>> David K. Uspal >>> Technology Development Specialist >>> Falvey Memorial Library >>> Phone: 610-519-8954 >>> Email: david.us...@villanova.edu >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of >>>Andrew Hankinson >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:00 PM >>> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU >>> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] iPads as Kiosks >>> >>> You can distribute apps via an internal web server, with no need to go >>>out to Apple. >>> >>> >>>http://developer.apple.com/library/ios/#featuredarticles/FA_Wireless_Ente >>>rprise_App_Distribution/Introduction/Introduction.html >>> >>> You need to be a registered business to do this, and it costs $299/yr. >>>You get a digital certificate, but that doesn't mean your code needs to >>>be "seen" by anyone outside of your org. >>> >>> >>> On 2011-08-23, at 1:47 PM, David Uspal wrote: >>> >>>> When I did my iPhone work, it was back in 2009 before this document >>>>even existed, so it's good they've come some distance on this issue >>>>since then. Still, the document below doesn't break the dependency on >>>>the iTunes store and/or a digital certificate issued by Apple to >>>>download applications (if I'm reading page 63 right), which was the big >>>>sticking point of the contract. Not only did the user not want the >>>>network controlled by Apple (which this document does handle), they >>>>also didn't want the code seen by any outside source at all (aka via >>>>uploading it to the store) >>>> >>>> >>>> David K. Uspal >>>> Technology Development Specialist >>>> Falvey Memorial Library >>>> Phone: 610-519-8954 >>>> Email: david.us...@villanova.edu >>>> >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf >>>>Of Andrew Hankinson >>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 1:34 PM >>>> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU >>>> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] iPads as Kiosks >>>> >>>> They now have an enterprise app deployment mechanism. >>>> >>>> http://www.apple.com/support/iphone/enterprise/ >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2011-08-23, at 12:54 PM, David Uspal wrote: >>>> >>>>> Then again, by selecting the iPad you're essentially tethered to >>>>>Apple's iron grip of the iWorld via its iTunes vetting process and >>>>>strict control of Apple hardware. YMMV on this depending on what >>>>>you're doing, but it should definitely be a consideration when >>>>>choosing between Android tablets and the iPad. >>>>> >>>>> Quick side story -- we had to drop a contract one time at m
Re: [CODE4LIB] iPads as Kiosks
That¹s the equivalent to $25/month and includes support for your whole development team/institution. If your employer can't afford that then I suggest you look for a new job! ;) Juan Madrigal Web Developer Web and Emerging Technologies University of Miami Richter Library On 8/23/11 2:21 PM, "Dan Funk" wrote: >Wow, just $300/year and you can run your own software on your own >hardware? What a deal. > >On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 2:13 PM, David Uspal >wrote: >> Thanks for the update. This definitely solves that issue -- its >>unfortunate this wasn't in place in 2009, or I'd be into year two of a >>five year contract... >> >> David K. Uspal >> Technology Development Specialist >> Falvey Memorial Library >> Phone: 610-519-8954 >> Email: david.us...@villanova.edu >> >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of >>Andrew Hankinson >> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:00 PM >> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU >> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] iPads as Kiosks >> >> You can distribute apps via an internal web server, with no need to go >>out to Apple. >> >> >>http://developer.apple.com/library/ios/#featuredarticles/FA_Wireless_Ente >>rprise_App_Distribution/Introduction/Introduction.html >> >> You need to be a registered business to do this, and it costs $299/yr. >>You get a digital certificate, but that doesn't mean your code needs to >>be "seen" by anyone outside of your org. >> >> >> On 2011-08-23, at 1:47 PM, David Uspal wrote: >> >>> When I did my iPhone work, it was back in 2009 before this document >>>even existed, so it's good they've come some distance on this issue >>>since then. Still, the document below doesn't break the dependency on >>>the iTunes store and/or a digital certificate issued by Apple to >>>download applications (if I'm reading page 63 right), which was the big >>>sticking point of the contract. Not only did the user not want the >>>network controlled by Apple (which this document does handle), they >>>also didn't want the code seen by any outside source at all (aka via >>>uploading it to the store) >>> >>> >>> David K. Uspal >>> Technology Development Specialist >>> Falvey Memorial Library >>> Phone: 610-519-8954 >>> Email: david.us...@villanova.edu >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf >>>Of Andrew Hankinson >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 1:34 PM >>> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU >>> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] iPads as Kiosks >>> >>> They now have an enterprise app deployment mechanism. >>> >>> http://www.apple.com/support/iphone/enterprise/ >>> >>> >>> On 2011-08-23, at 12:54 PM, David Uspal wrote: >>> >>>> Then again, by selecting the iPad you're essentially tethered to >>>>Apple's iron grip of the iWorld via its iTunes vetting process and >>>>strict control of Apple hardware. YMMV on this depending on what >>>>you're doing, but it should definitely be a consideration when >>>>choosing between Android tablets and the iPad. >>>> >>>> Quick side story -- we had to drop a contract one time at my old job >>>>due to the customer proprietary requirements. The customer didn't >>>>want to release its developed software outside of house (minus the >>>>developers of course) and Apple wouldn't give them a waiver from using >>>>the iTunes store. Mind you, this was a very big company with >>>>resources, so Apple probably lost a 5000 unit sale due to this >>>> >>>> >>>> David K. Uspal >>>> Technology Development Specialist >>>> Falvey Memorial Library >>>> Phone: 610-519-8954 >>>> Email: david.us...@villanova.edu >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf >>>>Of Stephen X. Flynn >>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 9:01 AM >>>> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU >>>> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] iPads as Kiosks >>>> >>>> Let's not forget a far superior user experience. >>>> >&
Re: [CODE4LIB] iPads as Kiosks
iPad Apps can be created and distributed in house without iTunes, just sign up for the iOS Enterprise Developer Program. Strict control of hardware on Apple's part delivers a consistent platform which ensures that your app will run across all devices and prevents fragmentation. In the case of Android one device might have a keyboard and another won't, one might have less performance etc... This means extra development time and testing to deal with various hardware scenarios and introduces more bugs. Here are some figures on Android vs iOS Malware to take into consideration: http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/08/24/apples_ios_unaffected_by_malware_as_android_exploits_surge_76.html I prefer less headaches. Stick to iOS, it's proven and consistent. Juan Madrigal Web Developer Web and Emerging Technologies University of Miami Richter Library On Aug 23, 2011, at 12:55 PM, "David Uspal" wrote: > Then again, by selecting the iPad you're essentially tethered to Apple's iron > grip of the iWorld via its iTunes vetting process and strict control of Apple > hardware. YMMV on this depending on what you're doing, but it should > definitely be a consideration when choosing between Android tablets and the > iPad. > > Quick side story -- we had to drop a contract one time at my old job due to > the customer proprietary requirements. The customer didn't want to release > its developed software outside of house (minus the developers of course) and > Apple wouldn't give them a waiver from using the iTunes store. Mind you, > this was a very big company with resources, so Apple probably lost a 5000 > unit sale due to this > > > David K. Uspal > Technology Development Specialist > Falvey Memorial Library > Phone: 610-519-8954 > Email: david.us...@villanova.edu > > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of > Stephen X. Flynn > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 9:01 AM > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] iPads as Kiosks > > Let's not forget a far superior user experience. > > > > Stephen X. Flynn > Emerging Technologies Librarian > Andrews Library, College of Wooster > 1140 Beall Ave. > Wooster, OH 44691 > (330) 263-2154 > http://www.sxflynn.net > > > > On Aug 22, 2011, at 12:56 PM, Madrigal, Juan A wrote: > >> I would definitely go with the iPad. More accessories, better support and >> consistency. >> >> >> Juan Madrigal >> >> Web Developer >> Web and Emerging Technologies >> University of Miami >> Richter Library >> >> >> >> On 8/22/11 11:19 AM, "Dan Funk" wrote: >> >>> There is a good discussion here about Android vs iPad based tables for >>> use as Kiosks - lots of good information to consider. >>> I'd love to hear what you end up doing. >>> >>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6050217/android-tablet-or-ipad-for-kios >>> k-device >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Kyle Banerjee >>> wrote: >>>> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 5:48 AM, Edward Iglesias >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Apologies if this has been covered already but do any of you have >>>>> experience >>>>> using iPads as kiosks? We would like to set up several as directional >>>>> beacons with a sot of "you are here" feature. I've found several apps >>>>> to >>>>> do >>>>> the kiosk feature but the home button seems to be an issue. >>>>> Suggestions >>>>> include a case that locks out the home button such as this >>>>> >>>> >>>> For kiosks, it seems like wifi chromebooks might be a decent option. >>>> They're >>>> cheaper than ipads, can't do anything other than browse the web, and >>>> it's >>>> easy to plug in external peripherals like keyboards, mice, and monitors. >>>> >>>> kyle >>>> >>>> -- >>>> -- >>>> Kyle Banerjee >>>> Digital Services Program Manager >>>> Orbis Cascade Alliance >>>> baner...@uoregon.edu / 503.877.9773 >>>>
Re: [CODE4LIB] iPads as Kiosks
Wow, just $300/year and you can run your own software on your own hardware? What a deal. On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 2:13 PM, David Uspal wrote: > Thanks for the update. This definitely solves that issue -- its unfortunate > this wasn't in place in 2009, or I'd be into year two of a five year > contract... > > David K. Uspal > Technology Development Specialist > Falvey Memorial Library > Phone: 610-519-8954 > Email: david.us...@villanova.edu > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of > Andrew Hankinson > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:00 PM > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] iPads as Kiosks > > You can distribute apps via an internal web server, with no need to go out to > Apple. > > http://developer.apple.com/library/ios/#featuredarticles/FA_Wireless_Enterprise_App_Distribution/Introduction/Introduction.html > > You need to be a registered business to do this, and it costs $299/yr. You > get a digital certificate, but that doesn't mean your code needs to be "seen" > by anyone outside of your org. > > > On 2011-08-23, at 1:47 PM, David Uspal wrote: > >> When I did my iPhone work, it was back in 2009 before this document even >> existed, so it's good they've come some distance on this issue since then. >> Still, the document below doesn't break the dependency on the iTunes store >> and/or a digital certificate issued by Apple to download applications (if >> I'm reading page 63 right), which was the big sticking point of the >> contract. Not only did the user not want the network controlled by Apple >> (which this document does handle), they also didn't want the code seen by >> any outside source at all (aka via uploading it to the store) >> >> >> David K. Uspal >> Technology Development Specialist >> Falvey Memorial Library >> Phone: 610-519-8954 >> Email: david.us...@villanova.edu >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of >> Andrew Hankinson >> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 1:34 PM >> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU >> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] iPads as Kiosks >> >> They now have an enterprise app deployment mechanism. >> >> http://www.apple.com/support/iphone/enterprise/ >> >> >> On 2011-08-23, at 12:54 PM, David Uspal wrote: >> >>> Then again, by selecting the iPad you're essentially tethered to Apple's >>> iron grip of the iWorld via its iTunes vetting process and strict control >>> of Apple hardware. YMMV on this depending on what you're doing, but it >>> should definitely be a consideration when choosing between Android tablets >>> and the iPad. >>> >>> Quick side story -- we had to drop a contract one time at my old job due to >>> the customer proprietary requirements. The customer didn't want to release >>> its developed software outside of house (minus the developers of course) >>> and Apple wouldn't give them a waiver from using the iTunes store. Mind >>> you, this was a very big company with resources, so Apple probably lost a >>> 5000 unit sale due to this >>> >>> >>> David K. Uspal >>> Technology Development Specialist >>> Falvey Memorial Library >>> Phone: 610-519-8954 >>> Email: david.us...@villanova.edu >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of >>> Stephen X. Flynn >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 9:01 AM >>> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU >>> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] iPads as Kiosks >>> >>> Let's not forget a far superior user experience. >>> >>> >>> >>> Stephen X. Flynn >>> Emerging Technologies Librarian >>> Andrews Library, College of Wooster >>> 1140 Beall Ave. >>> Wooster, OH 44691 >>> (330) 263-2154 >>> http://www.sxflynn.net >>> >>> >>> >>> On Aug 22, 2011, at 12:56 PM, Madrigal, Juan A wrote: >>> >>>> I would definitely go with the iPad. More accessories, better support and >>>> consistency. >>>> >>>> >>>> Juan Madrigal >>>> >>>> Web Developer >>>> Web and Emerging Technologies >>>> University of Miami >>
Re: [CODE4LIB] iPads as Kiosks
Thanks for the update. This definitely solves that issue -- its unfortunate this wasn't in place in 2009, or I'd be into year two of a five year contract... David K. Uspal Technology Development Specialist Falvey Memorial Library Phone: 610-519-8954 Email: david.us...@villanova.edu -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Andrew Hankinson Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:00 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] iPads as Kiosks You can distribute apps via an internal web server, with no need to go out to Apple. http://developer.apple.com/library/ios/#featuredarticles/FA_Wireless_Enterprise_App_Distribution/Introduction/Introduction.html You need to be a registered business to do this, and it costs $299/yr. You get a digital certificate, but that doesn't mean your code needs to be "seen" by anyone outside of your org. On 2011-08-23, at 1:47 PM, David Uspal wrote: > When I did my iPhone work, it was back in 2009 before this document even > existed, so it's good they've come some distance on this issue since then. > Still, the document below doesn't break the dependency on the iTunes store > and/or a digital certificate issued by Apple to download applications (if I'm > reading page 63 right), which was the big sticking point of the contract. > Not only did the user not want the network controlled by Apple (which this > document does handle), they also didn't want the code seen by any outside > source at all (aka via uploading it to the store) > > > David K. Uspal > Technology Development Specialist > Falvey Memorial Library > Phone: 610-519-8954 > Email: david.us...@villanova.edu > > > -Original Message- > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of > Andrew Hankinson > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 1:34 PM > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] iPads as Kiosks > > They now have an enterprise app deployment mechanism. > > http://www.apple.com/support/iphone/enterprise/ > > > On 2011-08-23, at 12:54 PM, David Uspal wrote: > >> Then again, by selecting the iPad you're essentially tethered to Apple's >> iron grip of the iWorld via its iTunes vetting process and strict control of >> Apple hardware. YMMV on this depending on what you're doing, but it should >> definitely be a consideration when choosing between Android tablets and the >> iPad. >> >> Quick side story -- we had to drop a contract one time at my old job due to >> the customer proprietary requirements. The customer didn't want to release >> its developed software outside of house (minus the developers of course) and >> Apple wouldn't give them a waiver from using the iTunes store. Mind you, >> this was a very big company with resources, so Apple probably lost a 5000 >> unit sale due to this >> >> >> David K. Uspal >> Technology Development Specialist >> Falvey Memorial Library >> Phone: 610-519-8954 >> Email: david.us...@villanova.edu >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of >> Stephen X. Flynn >> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 9:01 AM >> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU >> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] iPads as Kiosks >> >> Let's not forget a far superior user experience. >> >> >> >> Stephen X. Flynn >> Emerging Technologies Librarian >> Andrews Library, College of Wooster >> 1140 Beall Ave. >> Wooster, OH 44691 >> (330) 263-2154 >> http://www.sxflynn.net >> >> >> >> On Aug 22, 2011, at 12:56 PM, Madrigal, Juan A wrote: >> >>> I would definitely go with the iPad. More accessories, better support and >>> consistency. >>> >>> >>> Juan Madrigal >>> >>> Web Developer >>> Web and Emerging Technologies >>> University of Miami >>> Richter Library >>> >>> >>> >>> On 8/22/11 11:19 AM, "Dan Funk" wrote: >>> >>>> There is a good discussion here about Android vs iPad based tables for >>>> use as Kiosks - lots of good information to consider. >>>> I'd love to hear what you end up doing. >>>> >>>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6050217/android-tablet-or-ipad-for-kios >>>> k-device >>>> >>>> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Kyle Banerjee >>>> wrote: >>>
Re: [CODE4LIB] iPads as Kiosks
You can distribute apps via an internal web server, with no need to go out to Apple. http://developer.apple.com/library/ios/#featuredarticles/FA_Wireless_Enterprise_App_Distribution/Introduction/Introduction.html You need to be a registered business to do this, and it costs $299/yr. You get a digital certificate, but that doesn't mean your code needs to be "seen" by anyone outside of your org. On 2011-08-23, at 1:47 PM, David Uspal wrote: > When I did my iPhone work, it was back in 2009 before this document even > existed, so it's good they've come some distance on this issue since then. > Still, the document below doesn't break the dependency on the iTunes store > and/or a digital certificate issued by Apple to download applications (if I'm > reading page 63 right), which was the big sticking point of the contract. > Not only did the user not want the network controlled by Apple (which this > document does handle), they also didn't want the code seen by any outside > source at all (aka via uploading it to the store) > > > David K. Uspal > Technology Development Specialist > Falvey Memorial Library > Phone: 610-519-8954 > Email: david.us...@villanova.edu > > > -Original Message- > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of > Andrew Hankinson > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 1:34 PM > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] iPads as Kiosks > > They now have an enterprise app deployment mechanism. > > http://www.apple.com/support/iphone/enterprise/ > > > On 2011-08-23, at 12:54 PM, David Uspal wrote: > >> Then again, by selecting the iPad you're essentially tethered to Apple's >> iron grip of the iWorld via its iTunes vetting process and strict control of >> Apple hardware. YMMV on this depending on what you're doing, but it should >> definitely be a consideration when choosing between Android tablets and the >> iPad. >> >> Quick side story -- we had to drop a contract one time at my old job due to >> the customer proprietary requirements. The customer didn't want to release >> its developed software outside of house (minus the developers of course) and >> Apple wouldn't give them a waiver from using the iTunes store. Mind you, >> this was a very big company with resources, so Apple probably lost a 5000 >> unit sale due to this >> >> >> David K. Uspal >> Technology Development Specialist >> Falvey Memorial Library >> Phone: 610-519-8954 >> Email: david.us...@villanova.edu >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of >> Stephen X. Flynn >> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 9:01 AM >> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU >> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] iPads as Kiosks >> >> Let's not forget a far superior user experience. >> >> >> >> Stephen X. Flynn >> Emerging Technologies Librarian >> Andrews Library, College of Wooster >> 1140 Beall Ave. >> Wooster, OH 44691 >> (330) 263-2154 >> http://www.sxflynn.net >> >> >> >> On Aug 22, 2011, at 12:56 PM, Madrigal, Juan A wrote: >> >>> I would definitely go with the iPad. More accessories, better support and >>> consistency. >>> >>> >>> Juan Madrigal >>> >>> Web Developer >>> Web and Emerging Technologies >>> University of Miami >>> Richter Library >>> >>> >>> >>> On 8/22/11 11:19 AM, "Dan Funk" wrote: >>> >>>> There is a good discussion here about Android vs iPad based tables for >>>> use as Kiosks - lots of good information to consider. >>>> I'd love to hear what you end up doing. >>>> >>>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6050217/android-tablet-or-ipad-for-kios >>>> k-device >>>> >>>> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Kyle Banerjee >>>> wrote: >>>>> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 5:48 AM, Edward Iglesias >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Apologies if this has been covered already but do any of you have >>>>>> experience >>>>>> using iPads as kiosks? We would like to set up several as directional >>>>>> beacons with a sot of "you are here" feature. I've found several apps >>>>>> to >>>>>> do >>>>>> the kiosk feature but the home button seems to be an issue. >>>>>> Suggestions >>>>>> include a case that locks out the home button such as this >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> For kiosks, it seems like wifi chromebooks might be a decent option. >>>>> They're >>>>> cheaper than ipads, can't do anything other than browse the web, and >>>>> it's >>>>> easy to plug in external peripherals like keyboards, mice, and monitors. >>>>> >>>>> kyle >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> -- >>>>> Kyle Banerjee >>>>> Digital Services Program Manager >>>>> Orbis Cascade Alliance >>>>> baner...@uoregon.edu / 503.877.9773 >>>>>
Re: [CODE4LIB] iPads as Kiosks
When I did my iPhone work, it was back in 2009 before this document even existed, so it's good they've come some distance on this issue since then. Still, the document below doesn't break the dependency on the iTunes store and/or a digital certificate issued by Apple to download applications (if I'm reading page 63 right), which was the big sticking point of the contract. Not only did the user not want the network controlled by Apple (which this document does handle), they also didn't want the code seen by any outside source at all (aka via uploading it to the store) David K. Uspal Technology Development Specialist Falvey Memorial Library Phone: 610-519-8954 Email: david.us...@villanova.edu -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Andrew Hankinson Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 1:34 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] iPads as Kiosks They now have an enterprise app deployment mechanism. http://www.apple.com/support/iphone/enterprise/ On 2011-08-23, at 12:54 PM, David Uspal wrote: > Then again, by selecting the iPad you're essentially tethered to Apple's iron > grip of the iWorld via its iTunes vetting process and strict control of Apple > hardware. YMMV on this depending on what you're doing, but it should > definitely be a consideration when choosing between Android tablets and the > iPad. > > Quick side story -- we had to drop a contract one time at my old job due to > the customer proprietary requirements. The customer didn't want to release > its developed software outside of house (minus the developers of course) and > Apple wouldn't give them a waiver from using the iTunes store. Mind you, > this was a very big company with resources, so Apple probably lost a 5000 > unit sale due to this > > > David K. Uspal > Technology Development Specialist > Falvey Memorial Library > Phone: 610-519-8954 > Email: david.us...@villanova.edu > > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of > Stephen X. Flynn > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 9:01 AM > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] iPads as Kiosks > > Let's not forget a far superior user experience. > > > > Stephen X. Flynn > Emerging Technologies Librarian > Andrews Library, College of Wooster > 1140 Beall Ave. > Wooster, OH 44691 > (330) 263-2154 > http://www.sxflynn.net > > > > On Aug 22, 2011, at 12:56 PM, Madrigal, Juan A wrote: > >> I would definitely go with the iPad. More accessories, better support and >> consistency. >> >> >> Juan Madrigal >> >> Web Developer >> Web and Emerging Technologies >> University of Miami >> Richter Library >> >> >> >> On 8/22/11 11:19 AM, "Dan Funk" wrote: >> >>> There is a good discussion here about Android vs iPad based tables for >>> use as Kiosks - lots of good information to consider. >>> I'd love to hear what you end up doing. >>> >>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6050217/android-tablet-or-ipad-for-kios >>> k-device >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Kyle Banerjee >>> wrote: >>>> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 5:48 AM, Edward Iglesias >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Apologies if this has been covered already but do any of you have >>>>> experience >>>>> using iPads as kiosks? We would like to set up several as directional >>>>> beacons with a sot of "you are here" feature. I've found several apps >>>>> to >>>>> do >>>>> the kiosk feature but the home button seems to be an issue. >>>>> Suggestions >>>>> include a case that locks out the home button such as this >>>>> >>>> >>>> For kiosks, it seems like wifi chromebooks might be a decent option. >>>> They're >>>> cheaper than ipads, can't do anything other than browse the web, and >>>> it's >>>> easy to plug in external peripherals like keyboards, mice, and monitors. >>>> >>>> kyle >>>> >>>> -- >>>> -- >>>> Kyle Banerjee >>>> Digital Services Program Manager >>>> Orbis Cascade Alliance >>>> baner...@uoregon.edu / 503.877.9773 >>>>
Re: [CODE4LIB] iPads as Kiosks
They now have an enterprise app deployment mechanism. http://www.apple.com/support/iphone/enterprise/ On 2011-08-23, at 12:54 PM, David Uspal wrote: > Then again, by selecting the iPad you're essentially tethered to Apple's iron > grip of the iWorld via its iTunes vetting process and strict control of Apple > hardware. YMMV on this depending on what you're doing, but it should > definitely be a consideration when choosing between Android tablets and the > iPad. > > Quick side story -- we had to drop a contract one time at my old job due to > the customer proprietary requirements. The customer didn't want to release > its developed software outside of house (minus the developers of course) and > Apple wouldn't give them a waiver from using the iTunes store. Mind you, > this was a very big company with resources, so Apple probably lost a 5000 > unit sale due to this > > > David K. Uspal > Technology Development Specialist > Falvey Memorial Library > Phone: 610-519-8954 > Email: david.us...@villanova.edu > > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of > Stephen X. Flynn > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 9:01 AM > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] iPads as Kiosks > > Let's not forget a far superior user experience. > > > > Stephen X. Flynn > Emerging Technologies Librarian > Andrews Library, College of Wooster > 1140 Beall Ave. > Wooster, OH 44691 > (330) 263-2154 > http://www.sxflynn.net > > > > On Aug 22, 2011, at 12:56 PM, Madrigal, Juan A wrote: > >> I would definitely go with the iPad. More accessories, better support and >> consistency. >> >> >> Juan Madrigal >> >> Web Developer >> Web and Emerging Technologies >> University of Miami >> Richter Library >> >> >> >> On 8/22/11 11:19 AM, "Dan Funk" wrote: >> >>> There is a good discussion here about Android vs iPad based tables for >>> use as Kiosks - lots of good information to consider. >>> I'd love to hear what you end up doing. >>> >>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6050217/android-tablet-or-ipad-for-kios >>> k-device >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Kyle Banerjee >>> wrote: >>>> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 5:48 AM, Edward Iglesias >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Apologies if this has been covered already but do any of you have >>>>> experience >>>>> using iPads as kiosks? We would like to set up several as directional >>>>> beacons with a sot of "you are here" feature. I've found several apps >>>>> to >>>>> do >>>>> the kiosk feature but the home button seems to be an issue. >>>>> Suggestions >>>>> include a case that locks out the home button such as this >>>>> >>>> >>>> For kiosks, it seems like wifi chromebooks might be a decent option. >>>> They're >>>> cheaper than ipads, can't do anything other than browse the web, and >>>> it's >>>> easy to plug in external peripherals like keyboards, mice, and monitors. >>>> >>>> kyle >>>> >>>> -- >>>> -- >>>> Kyle Banerjee >>>> Digital Services Program Manager >>>> Orbis Cascade Alliance >>>> baner...@uoregon.edu / 503.877.9773 >>>>
Re: [CODE4LIB] iPads as Kiosks
Then again, by selecting the iPad you're essentially tethered to Apple's iron grip of the iWorld via its iTunes vetting process and strict control of Apple hardware. YMMV on this depending on what you're doing, but it should definitely be a consideration when choosing between Android tablets and the iPad. Quick side story -- we had to drop a contract one time at my old job due to the customer proprietary requirements. The customer didn't want to release its developed software outside of house (minus the developers of course) and Apple wouldn't give them a waiver from using the iTunes store. Mind you, this was a very big company with resources, so Apple probably lost a 5000 unit sale due to this David K. Uspal Technology Development Specialist Falvey Memorial Library Phone: 610-519-8954 Email: david.us...@villanova.edu -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Stephen X. Flynn Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 9:01 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] iPads as Kiosks Let's not forget a far superior user experience. Stephen X. Flynn Emerging Technologies Librarian Andrews Library, College of Wooster 1140 Beall Ave. Wooster, OH 44691 (330) 263-2154 http://www.sxflynn.net On Aug 22, 2011, at 12:56 PM, Madrigal, Juan A wrote: > I would definitely go with the iPad. More accessories, better support and > consistency. > > > Juan Madrigal > > Web Developer > Web and Emerging Technologies > University of Miami > Richter Library > > > > On 8/22/11 11:19 AM, "Dan Funk" wrote: > >> There is a good discussion here about Android vs iPad based tables for >> use as Kiosks - lots of good information to consider. >> I'd love to hear what you end up doing. >> >> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6050217/android-tablet-or-ipad-for-kios >> k-device >> >> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Kyle Banerjee >> wrote: >>> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 5:48 AM, Edward Iglesias >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Apologies if this has been covered already but do any of you have >>>> experience >>>> using iPads as kiosks? We would like to set up several as directional >>>> beacons with a sot of "you are here" feature. I've found several apps >>>> to >>>> do >>>> the kiosk feature but the home button seems to be an issue. >>>> Suggestions >>>> include a case that locks out the home button such as this >>>> >>> >>> For kiosks, it seems like wifi chromebooks might be a decent option. >>> They're >>> cheaper than ipads, can't do anything other than browse the web, and >>> it's >>> easy to plug in external peripherals like keyboards, mice, and monitors. >>> >>> kyle >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> Kyle Banerjee >>> Digital Services Program Manager >>> Orbis Cascade Alliance >>> baner...@uoregon.edu / 503.877.9773 >>>
Re: [CODE4LIB] iPads as Kiosks
Let's not forget a far superior user experience. Stephen X. Flynn Emerging Technologies Librarian Andrews Library, College of Wooster 1140 Beall Ave. Wooster, OH 44691 (330) 263-2154 http://www.sxflynn.net On Aug 22, 2011, at 12:56 PM, Madrigal, Juan A wrote: > I would definitely go with the iPad. More accessories, better support and > consistency. > > > Juan Madrigal > > Web Developer > Web and Emerging Technologies > University of Miami > Richter Library > > > > On 8/22/11 11:19 AM, "Dan Funk" wrote: > >> There is a good discussion here about Android vs iPad based tables for >> use as Kiosks - lots of good information to consider. >> I'd love to hear what you end up doing. >> >> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6050217/android-tablet-or-ipad-for-kios >> k-device >> >> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Kyle Banerjee >> wrote: >>> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 5:48 AM, Edward Iglesias >>> wrote: >>> Apologies if this has been covered already but do any of you have experience using iPads as kiosks? We would like to set up several as directional beacons with a sot of "you are here" feature. I've found several apps to do the kiosk feature but the home button seems to be an issue. Suggestions include a case that locks out the home button such as this >>> >>> For kiosks, it seems like wifi chromebooks might be a decent option. >>> They're >>> cheaper than ipads, can't do anything other than browse the web, and >>> it's >>> easy to plug in external peripherals like keyboards, mice, and monitors. >>> >>> kyle >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> Kyle Banerjee >>> Digital Services Program Manager >>> Orbis Cascade Alliance >>> baner...@uoregon.edu / 503.877.9773 >>>
Re: [CODE4LIB] iPads as Kiosks
I would definitely go with the iPad. More accessories, better support and consistency. Juan Madrigal Web Developer Web and Emerging Technologies University of Miami Richter Library On 8/22/11 11:19 AM, "Dan Funk" wrote: >There is a good discussion here about Android vs iPad based tables for >use as Kiosks - lots of good information to consider. >I'd love to hear what you end up doing. > >http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6050217/android-tablet-or-ipad-for-kios >k-device > >On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Kyle Banerjee >wrote: >> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 5:48 AM, Edward Iglesias >> wrote: >> >>> Apologies if this has been covered already but do any of you have >>> experience >>> using iPads as kiosks? We would like to set up several as directional >>> beacons with a sot of "you are here" feature. I've found several apps >>>to >>> do >>> the kiosk feature but the home button seems to be an issue. >>>Suggestions >>> include a case that locks out the home button such as this >>> >> >> For kiosks, it seems like wifi chromebooks might be a decent option. >>They're >> cheaper than ipads, can't do anything other than browse the web, and >>it's >> easy to plug in external peripherals like keyboards, mice, and monitors. >> >> kyle >> >> -- >> -- >> Kyle Banerjee >> Digital Services Program Manager >> Orbis Cascade Alliance >> baner...@uoregon.edu / 503.877.9773 >>
Re: [CODE4LIB] iPads as Kiosks
Here are some more iPad mounts: (with or without swiper) http://www.ipadkiosk.com/ http://labshield.com/ http://www.ipadenclosures.com/ipad_kiosk_enclosure/ipad_kiosk_wall_mount/figure_8_ipad_kiosk_bracket http://www.maclocks.com/index.php/imac-locks/ipadmountbundle.html http://ipadkioskstore.com/ Juan Madrigal Web Developer Web and Emerging Technologies University of Miami Richter Library On 8/19/11 10:42 AM, "Jason Griffey" mailto:grif...@gmail.com>> wrote: Sedna is awesome (We're just installing a demo system now) but Apple doesn't allow the disabling of the Home button on iOS devices via software. It's possible you could do it with a jailbroken device, but the best solution I've seen (and the one that I'm going to play with) is a case that physically restricts access to the Home button. Jason On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Madrigal, Juan A mailto:j.madrig...@miami.edu>>wrote: Edward, Have you looked into Sedna Presenter? ActivateTheSpace (US distributor): http://activatethespace.com/sednapresenter.html Here's the link to the iPad Player: http://www.sedna-presenter.com/component/content/article/6/40-player-for-ipad.html I'm pretty sure I recall the capability to disable the home button via software I've used Sedna Presenter in the past, it has a wide set of features that allows you to do pretty much anything. For example I've used it in tandem with an Emergency Alert System so that when an SMS text message is sent it triggers special playlist/screen on Sedna and displays alert messages and live video streams etc... That’s just scratching the surface! Here are some mounts: http://www.ergodirect.com/product_info.php?products_id=16602 http://www.mounts.com/product.php?product=IPM-700 http://touchscreenhardware.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2_7&products_id=70 SavantAV also has some mounts (as well as room control/smart classroom software) http://www.savantav.com/smart_docks.aspx Hope these links help! Juan Madrigal Web Developer Web and Emerging Technologies University of Miami Richter Library On 8/19/11 8:48 AM, "Edward Iglesias" mailto:edwardigles...@gmail.com>mailto:edwardigles...@gmail.com>>> wrote: Apologies if this has been covered already but do any of you have experience using iPads as kiosks? We would like to set up several as directional beacons with a sot of "you are here" feature. I've found several apps to do the kiosk feature but the home button seems to be an issue. Suggestions include a case that locks out the home button such as this http://www.nothingbuttablets.com/4588 Thanks, Edward Iglesias
Re: [CODE4LIB] iPads as Kiosks
There is a good discussion here about Android vs iPad based tables for use as Kiosks - lots of good information to consider. I'd love to hear what you end up doing. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6050217/android-tablet-or-ipad-for-kiosk-device On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Kyle Banerjee wrote: > On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 5:48 AM, Edward Iglesias > wrote: > >> Apologies if this has been covered already but do any of you have >> experience >> using iPads as kiosks? We would like to set up several as directional >> beacons with a sot of "you are here" feature. I've found several apps to >> do >> the kiosk feature but the home button seems to be an issue. Suggestions >> include a case that locks out the home button such as this >> > > For kiosks, it seems like wifi chromebooks might be a decent option. They're > cheaper than ipads, can't do anything other than browse the web, and it's > easy to plug in external peripherals like keyboards, mice, and monitors. > > kyle > > -- > -- > Kyle Banerjee > Digital Services Program Manager > Orbis Cascade Alliance > baner...@uoregon.edu / 503.877.9773 >
Re: [CODE4LIB] iPads as Kiosks
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 5:48 AM, Edward Iglesias wrote: > Apologies if this has been covered already but do any of you have > experience > using iPads as kiosks? We would like to set up several as directional > beacons with a sot of "you are here" feature. I've found several apps to > do > the kiosk feature but the home button seems to be an issue. Suggestions > include a case that locks out the home button such as this > For kiosks, it seems like wifi chromebooks might be a decent option. They're cheaper than ipads, can't do anything other than browse the web, and it's easy to plug in external peripherals like keyboards, mice, and monitors. kyle -- -- Kyle Banerjee Digital Services Program Manager Orbis Cascade Alliance baner...@uoregon.edu / 503.877.9773
Re: [CODE4LIB] iPads as Kiosks
Sedna is awesome (We're just installing a demo system now) but Apple doesn't allow the disabling of the Home button on iOS devices via software. It's possible you could do it with a jailbroken device, but the best solution I've seen (and the one that I'm going to play with) is a case that physically restricts access to the Home button. Jason On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Madrigal, Juan A wrote: > Edward, > > Have you looked into Sedna Presenter? > > ActivateTheSpace (US distributor): > http://activatethespace.com/sednapresenter.html > > Here's the link to the iPad Player: > > http://www.sedna-presenter.com/component/content/article/6/40-player-for-ipad.html > > > I'm pretty sure I recall the capability to disable the home button via > software > > I've used Sedna Presenter in the past, it has a wide set of features that > allows you to do pretty much anything. > > For example I've used it in tandem with an Emergency Alert System so that > when an SMS text message is sent it triggers special playlist/screen on > Sedna and displays alert messages and live video streams etc... > > That’s just scratching the surface! > > Here are some mounts: > > http://www.ergodirect.com/product_info.php?products_id=16602 > > http://www.mounts.com/product.php?product=IPM-700 > > > http://touchscreenhardware.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2_7&products_id=70 > > SavantAV also has some mounts (as well as room control/smart classroom > software) > http://www.savantav.com/smart_docks.aspx > > Hope these links help! > > Juan Madrigal > > Web Developer > Web and Emerging Technologies > University of Miami > Richter Library > > > > > On 8/19/11 8:48 AM, "Edward Iglesias" edwardigles...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Apologies if this has been covered already but do any of you have > experience > using iPads as kiosks? We would like to set up several as directional > beacons with a sot of "you are here" feature. I've found several apps to > do > the kiosk feature but the home button seems to be an issue. Suggestions > include a case that locks out the home button such as this > > http://www.nothingbuttablets.com/4588 > > Thanks, > > > Edward Iglesias >
Re: [CODE4LIB] iPads as Kiosks
Edward, Have you looked into Sedna Presenter? ActivateTheSpace (US distributor): http://activatethespace.com/sednapresenter.html Here's the link to the iPad Player: http://www.sedna-presenter.com/component/content/article/6/40-player-for-ipad.html I'm pretty sure I recall the capability to disable the home button via software I've used Sedna Presenter in the past, it has a wide set of features that allows you to do pretty much anything. For example I've used it in tandem with an Emergency Alert System so that when an SMS text message is sent it triggers special playlist/screen on Sedna and displays alert messages and live video streams etc... That’s just scratching the surface! Here are some mounts: http://www.ergodirect.com/product_info.php?products_id=16602 http://www.mounts.com/product.php?product=IPM-700 http://touchscreenhardware.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2_7&products_id=70 SavantAV also has some mounts (as well as room control/smart classroom software) http://www.savantav.com/smart_docks.aspx Hope these links help! Juan Madrigal Web Developer Web and Emerging Technologies University of Miami Richter Library On 8/19/11 8:48 AM, "Edward Iglesias" mailto:edwardigles...@gmail.com>> wrote: Apologies if this has been covered already but do any of you have experience using iPads as kiosks? We would like to set up several as directional beacons with a sot of "you are here" feature. I've found several apps to do the kiosk feature but the home button seems to be an issue. Suggestions include a case that locks out the home button such as this http://www.nothingbuttablets.com/4588 Thanks, Edward Iglesias
[CODE4LIB] iPads as Kiosks
Apologies if this has been covered already but do any of you have experience using iPads as kiosks? We would like to set up several as directional beacons with a sot of "you are here" feature. I've found several apps to do the kiosk feature but the home button seems to be an issue. Suggestions include a case that locks out the home button such as this http://www.nothingbuttablets.com/4588 Thanks, Edward Iglesias
