Re: [CODE4LIB] CODE4LIB Digest - 13 Jun 2008 to 14 Jun 2008 (#2008-132)
James Tuttle wrote: Trying to port my Linux experience to Solaris 10 makes my brain bleed some days. I'd recommend, and this is probably too onerous for the original poster, installing OpenSolaris in a virtual machine if the installation route seems viable. The differences between Solaris (or [EMAIL PROTECTED]@# Solaris!, as we affectionately call it) and Linux are pretty great. However, installing a distro inside VirtualBox is probably a little more advanced than the OP may be prepared for. At a former job, long, long ago I was a unix systems administrator for a small company (long before that I was a unix system administrator for a very large company) that developed some software products which ran on various versions of unix. As a result we had hardware from many different vendors to run the various versions of unix. If I recall correctly I supported machines running 8 different flavors of unix, all of which were slightly different. Linux was barely on the radar at the time so it wasn't one of them. *Most* of the command line commands one needs are essentially the same and have their roots with old BSD systems or System V.
Re: [CODE4LIB] CODE4LIB Digest - 13 Jun 2008 to 14 Jun 2008 (#2008-132)
On 6/16/08 6/16/08 6:14 AM, Joe Hourcle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd completely agree -- for those of you who haven't had to cut your teeth on multiple flavors of un*x, you're in for a world of hurt trying to learn two at the same time and trying to keep everything straight. And to think of all argument I got for my Why Unix Sucks post...http://www.libraryjournal.com/blog/109309/post/240020424.html Roy
Re: [CODE4LIB] CODE4LIB Digest - 13 Jun 2008 to 14 Jun 2008 (#2008-132)
How about you all move the which OS is better argument to Roy's blog, where he started it, instead of here? Just my own personal request. Jonathan Joe Hourcle wrote: On Mon, 16 Jun 2008, Roy Tennant wrote: On 6/16/08 6/16/08 € 6:14 AM, Joe Hourcle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd completely agree -- for those of you who haven't had to cut your teeth on multiple flavors of un*x, you're in for a world of hurt trying to learn two at the same time and trying to keep everything straight. And to think of all argument I got for my Why Unix Sucks post...http://www.libraryjournal.com/blog/109309/post/240020424.html Your arguments have nothing to do with Unix. It'd be like trying to keep track of where stuff is between Windows ME, 2000, NT, XP and 98 all at the same time ... there are two major code bases out there for Windows, and they're slowly intermixing until I can't keep track where stuff is in each version. Luckily, I don't have to deal with both Un*x and Windows machines anymore, and I've managed to forget most of it ... and I got out before Vista and whatever the numbered version currently is. And how did someone decide to set the program to start at boot? StartupItems? something in the Registry? autoexec.bat on older systems? something else entirely? ... and well, we work for Libraries -- we should all know that there are many, many things that Google is NOT good at finding, and this is one of them. (and it you do manage to find your error message, you find 20+ messages that are from two different mailing lists that are made web-accessible through 10 different hosts each ... and DejaNews (aka Google Groups) has the question with the person responding to themselves with 'nevermind, I fixed it', but no actual record of what they did.) -Joe -- Jonathan Rochkind Digital Services Software Engineer The Sheridan Libraries Johns Hopkins University 410.516.8886 rochkind (at) jhu.edu
Re: [CODE4LIB] CODE4LIB Digest - 13 Jun 2008 to 14 Jun 2008 (#2008-132)
Trying to port my Linux experience to Solaris 10 makes my brain bleed some days. I'd recommend, and this is probably too onerous for the original poster, installing OpenSolaris in a virtual machine if the installation route seems viable. The differences between Solaris (or [EMAIL PROTECTED]@# Solaris!, as we affectionately call it) and Linux are pretty great. However, installing a distro inside VirtualBox is probably a little more advanced than the OP may be prepared for. Jim -- Date:Sat, 14 Jun 2008 20:02:39 +0100 From:Tim Hodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Unix training options? As most linux distros and unix systems share a common history, many commands are similar but have more or less options. If you want to experiment with linux distro's, I can recommend trying out VirtualBox [1] , which is now distributed by sun. It is free for non-comercial use (teaching yourself sounds non commercial to me), and gives you a chance to try installing several operating systems without having to worry about trashing your existing (host) system. In terms of the absolute basics for moving round the system and seeing what is going on, I would recommend the following commands bash - use a bash shell which has handy command history and command completion with the tab key cd - change directory ls - list the contents of a direcory vi - to read, create and edit files. less - view even very big files easily, and uses standard vi commands to navigate The easiest way to learn is through doing, playing and making mistakes. - and being forced to learn because you HAVE to do something is a great catalyst to knew knowledge. :) Tim informationtakesover.co.uk colourphon.co.uk [1] http://www.virtualbox.org/ -- --- Jim Tuttle Geospatial Data Librarian NCSU Libraries, Box 7111 North Carolina State University Raleigh, NC 27695-7111 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (919)513-0651 Phone (919)515-3031 Fax
