[codenameone-discussions] Re: How to limit the spacing between 2 or more TABS (Left Orientation)

2019-09-16 Thread Mark Bolduc
Thanks.

On Saturday, September 14, 2019 at 11:32:05 PM UTC-4, Shai Almog wrote:
>
> Hi,
> no. 
> The physical limitation is the screen size/finger size and those won't 
> change ;-)
>
> Even on Tablets which resolved some of the screen size limits the screen 
> is still smaller and the UI elements need to be "finger friendly". So you 
> should stick in more details but not nearly as much as we used to on the 
> desktop. Frankly, it's better in terms of UX and software development. We 
> work with a lot of forms but each one is smaller and simpler, that makes 
> them easier to explain, understand and develop.
>
> We worked with several companies in your position who tried moving a 
> desktop app UI "as is". The results varied. I suggest talking with the 
> users about this and letting them feel the UI. Try it on the target devices 
> early on to see how it feels even without the functionality. When you start 
> using it on a physical device you'll know if you're on the right direction.
>

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[codenameone-discussions] Re: How to limit the spacing between 2 or more TABS (Left Orientation)

2019-09-14 Thread Shai Almog
Hi,
no. 
The physical limitation is the screen size/finger size and those won't 
change ;-)

Even on Tablets which resolved some of the screen size limits the screen is 
still smaller and the UI elements need to be "finger friendly". So you 
should stick in more details but not nearly as much as we used to on the 
desktop. Frankly, it's better in terms of UX and software development. We 
work with a lot of forms but each one is smaller and simpler, that makes 
them easier to explain, understand and develop.

We worked with several companies in your position who tried moving a 
desktop app UI "as is". The results varied. I suggest talking with the 
users about this and letting them feel the UI. Try it on the target devices 
early on to see how it feels even without the functionality. When you start 
using it on a physical device you'll know if you're on the right direction.

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[codenameone-discussions] Re: How to limit the spacing between 2 or more TABS (Left Orientation)

2019-09-14 Thread Mark Bolduc
Thanks.
Sorry to take up so much of your time.

Do you predict in a couple of years the hardware will better support more 
complex UI's?

For me it makes sense as our product is primarily used on PC's using Swing 
and so to provide functionality in the mobile devices that are farmiluar to 
them makes it more attractive as the users do not have to learn 2 different 
apps.

The PC app is extensivly used in the office while things like greeting a 
customer or performing an extensive multipoint inspection in the shop or 
while driving a customer home and taking photos in real-time in important.

Seems like moving from form to form, looses the information from the 
previous form that I may be relevent to this form.

Then when I go back, I have to reload all the data.


Thanks for all your help.

Regards



On Saturday, September 14, 2019 at 12:44:43 AM UTC-4, Shai Almog wrote:

> They don't actually change the images, it's just a rendering bug. If you 
> click the themes again you'll see all the constants back to normal.
>
> I find that we need to take complex swing/desktop UI's and break them down 
> to more forms when moving from desktop to mobile.
>

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[codenameone-discussions] Re: How to limit the spacing between 2 or more TABS (Left Orientation)

2019-09-13 Thread Shai Almog
They don't actually change the images, it's just a rendering bug. If you 
click the themes again you'll see all the constants back to normal.

I find that we need to take complex swing/desktop UI's and break them down 
to more forms when moving from desktop to mobile.

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[codenameone-discussions] Re: How to limit the spacing between 2 or more TABS (Left Orientation)

2019-09-13 Thread Mark Bolduc
On another note, do you think I am potentially building a UI that is too 
demanding for mobile devices?
Should I be thinking much less complex?
I like to give usere as much of a feature set that the they have in the 
Swing App.
I am acustom to Swing apps for decades.

Thoughts?

On Friday, September 13, 2019 at 12:10:16 PM UTC-4, Mark Bolduc wrote:

> Seems when I add this constant, it is applied to all images.
>
> I deleted the constant, saved my theme. closed the Codename One Designer 
> Theses Dialog
> Restarted, w/o selecting any image and clicking on constants, I see the 
> key tabsGridBool set.
>
> Perhaps I am not undersytanding how to manipulate this.
>
> In the Theme Images list, I assume I would select an image (Now 
> "mpiTabMetalSelected" highlighted Unselected Tab) and click on Constants, 
> then manage the keys in the Constants list.
>
> All approaches have apparently made global changes to all images.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> On Thursday, September 12, 2019 at 10:37:46 PM UTC-4, Shai Almog wrote:
>
>> That's just a bug in this old UI. Click the theme again and select the 
>> constants tab it should have the right value.
>>
>

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[codenameone-discussions] Re: How to limit the spacing between 2 or more TABS (Left Orientation)

2019-09-13 Thread Mark Bolduc
Seems when I add this constant, it is applied to all images.

I deleted the constant, saved my theme. closed the Codename One Designer 
Theses Dialog
Restarted, w/o selecting any image and clicking on constants, I see the key 
tabsGridBool set.

Perhaps I am not undersytanding how to manipulate this.

In the Theme Images list, I assume I would select an image (Now 
"mpiTabMetalSelected" highlighted Unselected Tab) and click on Constants, 
then manage the keys in the Constants list.

All approaches have apparently made global changes to all images.

Thoughts?

On Thursday, September 12, 2019 at 10:37:46 PM UTC-4, Shai Almog wrote:

> That's just a bug in this old UI. Click the theme again and select the 
> constants tab it should have the right value.
>

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[codenameone-discussions] Re: How to limit the spacing between 2 or more TABS (Left Orientation)

2019-09-12 Thread Shai Almog
That's just a bug in this old UI. Click the theme again and select the 
constants tab it should have the right value.

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[codenameone-discussions] Re: How to limit the spacing between 2 or more TABS (Left Orientation)

2019-09-12 Thread Mark Bolduc
Initially I filtered on th the  "mpiTabMetalSelected" Theme image See 
AddTabsGridBool_12.JPG
Then I clicked the "Constants" Tab where I attempted to add tabsGridBool to 
the filtered theme image., However when click OK, New Constant does not 
appear in the list. See AddTabsGridBool_13.JPG & AddTabsGridBool_14.JPG

Now if I remove the filter, all the theme images contain this constant. See 
AddTabsGridBool_15.JPG

So how do I set this constant for specific theme images?

Thoughts?

On Wednesday, September 11, 2019 at 11:05:49 PM UTC-4, Shai Almog wrote:

> These look like you changed the entire theme and not just that constant. 
> What did you do exactly? 

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[codenameone-discussions] Re: How to limit the spacing between 2 or more TABS (Left Orientation)

2019-09-11 Thread Shai Almog
These look like you changed the entire theme and not just that constant. What 
did you do exactly? 

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[codenameone-discussions] Re: How to limit the spacing between 2 or more TABS (Left Orientation)

2019-09-11 Thread Mark Bolduc
Yes, I wanted to only affect the one image.

I see, it appears the Constants apply to  all style images.

Is this correct?

If so, whats the thinking behind this?

Regards.

On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 at 10:39:54 PM UTC-4, Shai Almog wrote:
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> You typed mpiTabMeta in the search, could that search have hidden it?
> I only see one image here.
>

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[codenameone-discussions] Re: How to limit the spacing between 2 or more TABS (Left Orientation)

2019-09-10 Thread Shai Almog
You typed mpiTabMeta in the search, could that search have hidden it?
I only see one image here.

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[codenameone-discussions] Re: How to limit the spacing between 2 or more TABS (Left Orientation)

2019-09-10 Thread Mark Bolduc
I understand, however in doing this, clicking OK never adds it to the list,

I click Add (See Attached AddTabsGridBool_1.JPG), it opens the dialog 
AddTabsGridBool.JPG, I set Constant to tabsGridBool and toggle the Value 
checkbox until it is set to false. as seen in attached AddTabsGridBool.JPG. 
I click on OK and expect to see this key added to the constants table seen 
in AddTabsGridBool_1.JPG, however it is empty.

Thoughts?



On Saturday, September 7, 2019 at 11:22:38 PM UTC-4, Shai Almog wrote:
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> It's a boolean which means you need to check/uncheck the box to set it to 
> false.
>

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[codenameone-discussions] Re: How to limit the spacing between 2 or more TABS (Left Orientation)

2019-09-07 Thread Shai Almog
It's a boolean which means you need to check/uncheck the box to set it to 
false.

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[codenameone-discussions] Re: How to limit the spacing between 2 or more TABS (Left Orientation)

2019-09-07 Thread Mark Bolduc
Have loaded my theme component and seems unable to add the constant 
tabsGridBool

Please see attached. When I click OK, the dialog closes and the constant is 
not added to the list (empty)

Thoughts?

On Saturday, September 7, 2019 at 12:44:57 AM UTC-4, Shai Almog wrote:

> Try setting the theme constant tabsGridBool to false.
>

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[codenameone-discussions] Re: How to limit the spacing between 2 or more TABS (Left Orientation)

2019-09-06 Thread Shai Almog
Try setting the theme constant tabsGridBool to false.

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