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Feng Lu commented on AIRFLOW-15:
Sure, [~criccomini],
[AIRFLOW-1894|https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AIRFLOW-1894] is created to
track this.
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> Key: AIRFLOW-15
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AIRFLOW-15
> Project: Apache Airflow
> Issue Type: Task
> Components: gcp
>Reporter: Chris Riccomini
>Assignee: Chris Riccomini
> Labels: gcp
>
> After speaking with Google, there was some concern about using the
> [gcloud-python|https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/gcloud-python] library
> for Airflow. There are several concerns:
> # It's not clear (even to people at Google) what this library is, who owns
> it, etc.
> # It does not support all services (the way
> [google-api-python-client|https://github.com/google/google-api-python-client]
> does).
> # There are compatibility issues between google-api-python-client and
> gcloudpython.
> We currently support both, after libraries depending on which package you you
> install: {{airfow[gcp_api]}} or {{airflow[gcloud]}}. This ticket is to remove
> the {{airflow[gcloud]}} packaged, and all associated code.
> The main associated code, afaik, is the use of the {{gcloud}} library in the
> Google cloud storage hooks/operators--specifically for Google cloud storage
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Chris Riccomini commented on AIRFLOW-15:
[~fenglu], that sounds good to me. This JIRA is actually about removing the
gcloud library, though. [~fenglu], can you open a new JIRA that proposes what
you're saying, and assign to yourself for process tracking?
Also, we need to make sure that the compatibility issues are worked out. Last
time we tried running both in parallel, we had major dependency conflict issues
(see third bullet point in the description of this JIRA).
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> Key: AIRFLOW-15
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AIRFLOW-15
> Project: Apache Airflow
> Issue Type: Task
> Components: gcp
>Reporter: Chris Riccomini
>Assignee: Chris Riccomini
> Labels: gcp
>
> After speaking with Google, there was some concern about using the
> [gcloud-python|https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/gcloud-python] library
> for Airflow. There are several concerns:
> # It's not clear (even to people at Google) what this library is, who owns
> it, etc.
> # It does not support all services (the way
> [google-api-python-client|https://github.com/google/google-api-python-client]
> does).
> # There are compatibility issues between google-api-python-client and
> gcloudpython.
> We currently support both, after libraries depending on which package you you
> install: {{airfow[gcp_api]}} or {{airflow[gcloud]}}. This ticket is to remove
> the {{airflow[gcloud]}} packaged, and all associated code.
> The main associated code, afaik, is the use of the {{gcloud}} library in the
> Google cloud storage hooks/operators--specifically for Google cloud storage
> Airfow logging.
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Feng Lu commented on AIRFLOW-15:
[~criccomini] [~barrywhart] Unfortunately we don't have feature parity between
the two yet, but it's expected that all GCP services will be supported in
google-cloud-python. Checked with our internal team, it's recommended that
google-cloud-python should be used whenever possible. Specifically for Airflow
GCP connectors, I would propose:
- add google-cloud-python dependency as part of gcp_api.
- new operators shall base on google-cloud-python if possible.
- we (or anyone outside google) can migrate existing GCP operators when the
underlying GCP service is available in google-cloud-python.
WDYT?
Feel free to assign this JIRA issue to me for process tracking.
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> Key: AIRFLOW-15
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AIRFLOW-15
> Project: Apache Airflow
> Issue Type: Task
> Components: gcp
>Reporter: Chris Riccomini
>Assignee: Chris Riccomini
> Labels: gcp
>
> After speaking with Google, there was some concern about using the
> [gcloud-python|https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/gcloud-python] library
> for Airflow. There are several concerns:
> # It's not clear (even to people at Google) what this library is, who owns
> it, etc.
> # It does not support all services (the way
> [google-api-python-client|https://github.com/google/google-api-python-client]
> does).
> # There are compatibility issues between google-api-python-client and
> gcloudpython.
> We currently support both, after libraries depending on which package you you
> install: {{airfow[gcp_api]}} or {{airflow[gcloud]}}. This ticket is to remove
> the {{airflow[gcloud]}} packaged, and all associated code.
> The main associated code, afaik, is the use of the {{gcloud}} library in the
> Google cloud storage hooks/operators--specifically for Google cloud storage
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Chris Riccomini commented on AIRFLOW-15:
[~fenglu], perhaps you can poke someone on your end to get guidance on the
right library to use? What are your thoughts?
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> Key: AIRFLOW-15
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AIRFLOW-15
> Project: Apache Airflow
> Issue Type: Task
> Components: gcp
>Reporter: Chris Riccomini
>Assignee: Chris Riccomini
> Labels: gcp
>
> After speaking with Google, there was some concern about using the
> [gcloud-python|https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/gcloud-python] library
> for Airflow. There are several concerns:
> # It's not clear (even to people at Google) what this library is, who owns
> it, etc.
> # It does not support all services (the way
> [google-api-python-client|https://github.com/google/google-api-python-client]
> does).
> # There are compatibility issues between google-api-python-client and
> gcloudpython.
> We currently support both, after libraries depending on which package you you
> install: {{airfow[gcp_api]}} or {{airflow[gcloud]}}. This ticket is to remove
> the {{airflow[gcloud]}} packaged, and all associated code.
> The main associated code, afaik, is the use of the {{gcloud}} library in the
> Google cloud storage hooks/operators--specifically for Google cloud storage
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Barry Hart commented on AIRFLOW-15:
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I understand. "Wait and see" might be a reasonable strategy. (I.e. until Google
clarifies the message). The specific reason for my comment is that one of our
DAGs transfers a very large number of files to and from Google Storage. With
this number of files, we almost always see some transient 5XX errors from the
Google side, so we see some value in the google-cloud-python-library, which has
retry logic built in, both
[generally|https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/google-cloud-python/blob/master/api_core/google/api_core/retry.py]
and [specifically for Google
Storage|https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/google-cloud-python/blob/master/storage/google/cloud/storage/blob.py#L84-L91].)
(Although Airflow has its own retry support, I see those as being intended for
coarse-grained retries (i.e. when one task does a few things). When one task is
transferring thousands of files, it seems useful to retry internal to the task
as well (per file).
Let me know what you think. It may be worth creating a ticket about retries to
perhaps get input from other users. For now, we can use the
google-cloud-python-library directly from our DAGs.
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> Key: AIRFLOW-15
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AIRFLOW-15
> Project: Apache Airflow
> Issue Type: Task
> Components: gcp
>Reporter: Chris Riccomini
>Assignee: Chris Riccomini
> Labels: gcp
>
> After speaking with Google, there was some concern about using the
> [gcloud-python|https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/gcloud-python] library
> for Airflow. There are several concerns:
> # It's not clear (even to people at Google) what this library is, who owns
> it, etc.
> # It does not support all services (the way
> [google-api-python-client|https://github.com/google/google-api-python-client]
> does).
> # There are compatibility issues between google-api-python-client and
> gcloudpython.
> We currently support both, after libraries depending on which package you you
> install: {{airfow[gcp_api]}} or {{airflow[gcloud]}}. This ticket is to remove
> the {{airflow[gcloud]}} packaged, and all associated code.
> The main associated code, afaik, is the use of the {{gcloud}} library in the
> Google cloud storage hooks/operators--specifically for Google cloud storage
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Chris Riccomini commented on AIRFLOW-15:
[~barrywhart], to be honest, I am not sure what the right path forward is. I
was told specifically by several Google PMs at Google Next last year not to use
the idiomatic library. Since then, the message you are pointing to has appeared
on the google python client.
The use case is further muddied by the fact that I'm not convinced an idiomatic
Python client is actually what we want. The fact that the Google APIs all work
the same way in the service binding API makes it pretty easy to abstract over a
lot of the mechanics around interacting with Google in a generic way that can
be leveraged by all GCP operators. I haven't looked into whether or not this
overhead would increase if we went to an idiomatic library where interacting
with GCS might look very different from interacting with Dataflow, etc.
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> Key: AIRFLOW-15
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AIRFLOW-15
> Project: Apache Airflow
> Issue Type: Task
> Components: gcp
>Reporter: Chris Riccomini
>Assignee: Chris Riccomini
> Labels: gcp
>
> After speaking with Google, there was some concern about using the
> [gcloud-python|https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/gcloud-python] library
> for Airflow. There are several concerns:
> # It's not clear (even to people at Google) what this library is, who owns
> it, etc.
> # It does not support all services (the way
> [google-api-python-client|https://github.com/google/google-api-python-client]
> does).
> # There are compatibility issues between google-api-python-client and
> gcloudpython.
> We currently support both, after libraries depending on which package you you
> install: {{airfow[gcp_api]}} or {{airflow[gcloud]}}. This ticket is to remove
> the {{airflow[gcloud]}} packaged, and all associated code.
> The main associated code, afaik, is the use of the {{gcloud}} library in the
> Google cloud storage hooks/operators--specifically for Google cloud storage
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Barry Hart commented on AIRFLOW-15:
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Question: This change moved Airflow to using a library that Google no longer
recommends
(https://github.com/google/google-api-python-client/#google-cloud-platform-apis):
{quote}
If you're working with Google Cloud Platform APIs such as Datastore or Pub/Sub,
consider using the Cloud Client Libraries for Python instead. These are the new
and idiomatic Python libraries targeted specifically at Google Cloud Platform
Services.
{quote}
Should this decision be revisited and possibly reversed? I am happy to open a
new ticket, but wanted to raise the question here first for context.
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> Key: AIRFLOW-15
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AIRFLOW-15
> Project: Apache Airflow
> Issue Type: Task
> Components: gcp
>Reporter: Chris Riccomini
>Assignee: Chris Riccomini
> Labels: gcp
>
> After speaking with Google, there was some concern about using the
> [gcloud-python|https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/gcloud-python] library
> for Airflow. There are several concerns:
> # It's not clear (even to people at Google) what this library is, who owns
> it, etc.
> # It does not support all services (the way
> [google-api-python-client|https://github.com/google/google-api-python-client]
> does).
> # There are compatibility issues between google-api-python-client and
> gcloudpython.
> We currently support both, after libraries depending on which package you you
> install: {{airfow[gcp_api]}} or {{airflow[gcloud]}}. This ticket is to remove
> the {{airflow[gcloud]}} packaged, and all associated code.
> The main associated code, afaik, is the use of the {{gcloud}} library in the
> Google cloud storage hooks/operators--specifically for Google cloud storage
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Chris Riccomini commented on AIRFLOW-15:
Yes, resolved.
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> Key: AIRFLOW-15
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AIRFLOW-15
> Project: Apache Airflow
> Issue Type: Task
> Components: gcp
>Reporter: Chris Riccomini
>Assignee: Chris Riccomini
> Labels: gcp
>
> After speaking with Google, there was some concern about using the
> [gcloud-python|https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/gcloud-python] library
> for Airflow. There are several concerns:
> # It's not clear (even to people at Google) what this library is, who owns
> it, etc.
> # It does not support all services (the way
> [google-api-python-client|https://github.com/google/google-api-python-client]
> does).
> # There are compatibility issues between google-api-python-client and
> gcloudpython.
> We currently support both, after libraries depending on which package you you
> install: {{airfow[gcp_api]}} or {{airflow[gcloud]}}. This ticket is to remove
> the {{airflow[gcloud]}} packaged, and all associated code.
> The main associated code, afaik, is the use of the {{gcloud}} library in the
> Google cloud storage hooks/operators--specifically for Google cloud storage
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Bolke de Bruin commented on AIRFLOW-15:
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[~criccomini] is this issue resolved?
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> Key: AIRFLOW-15
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AIRFLOW-15
> Project: Apache Airflow
> Issue Type: Task
> Components: gcp
>Reporter: Chris Riccomini
>Assignee: Chris Riccomini
> Labels: gcp
>
> After speaking with Google, there was some concern about using the
> [gcloud-python|https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/gcloud-python] library
> for Airflow. There are several concerns:
> # It's not clear (even to people at Google) what this library is, who owns
> it, etc.
> # It does not support all services (the way
> [google-api-python-client|https://github.com/google/google-api-python-client]
> does).
> # There are compatibility issues between google-api-python-client and
> gcloudpython.
> We currently support both, after libraries depending on which package you you
> install: {{airfow[gcp_api]}} or {{airflow[gcloud]}}. This ticket is to remove
> the {{airflow[gcloud]}} packaged, and all associated code.
> The main associated code, afaik, is the use of the {{gcloud}} library in the
> Google cloud storage hooks/operators--specifically for Google cloud storage
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Chris Riccomini commented on AIRFLOW-15:
Got a +1 from [~jlowin]. Merged.
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> Key: AIRFLOW-15
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AIRFLOW-15
> Project: Apache Airflow
> Issue Type: Task
>Reporter: Chris Riccomini
>Assignee: Chris Riccomini
>
> After speaking with Google, there was some concern about using the
> [gcloud-python|https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/gcloud-python] library
> for Airflow. There are several concerns:
> # It's not clear (even to people at Google) what this library is, who owns
> it, etc.
> # It does not support all services (the way
> [google-api-python-client|https://github.com/google/google-api-python-client]
> does).
> # There are compatibility issues between google-api-python-client and
> gcloudpython.
> We currently support both, after libraries depending on which package you you
> install: {{airfow[gcp_api]}} or {{airflow[gcloud]}}. This ticket is to remove
> the {{airflow[gcloud]}} packaged, and all associated code.
> The main associated code, afaik, is the use of the {{gcloud}} library in the
> Google cloud storage hooks/operators--specifically for Google cloud storage
> Airfow logging.
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Chris Riccomini commented on AIRFLOW-15:
Pull request: https://github.com/airbnb/airflow/pull/1448
[~jlowin], could use a review.
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> Key: AIRFLOW-15
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AIRFLOW-15
> Project: Apache Airflow
> Issue Type: Task
>Reporter: Chris Riccomini
>Assignee: Chris Riccomini
>
> After speaking with Google, there was some concern about using the
> [gcloud-python|https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/gcloud-python] library
> for Airflow. There are several concerns:
> # It's not clear (even to people at Google) what this library is, who owns
> it, etc.
> # It does not support all services (the way
> [google-api-python-client|https://github.com/google/google-api-python-client]
> does).
> # There are compatibility issues between google-api-python-client and
> gcloudpython.
> We currently support both, after libraries depending on which package you you
> install: {{airfow[gcp_api]}} or {{airflow[gcloud]}}. This ticket is to remove
> the {{airflow[gcloud]}} packaged, and all associated code.
> The main associated code, afaik, is the use of the {{gcloud}} library in the
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Chris Riccomini commented on AIRFLOW-15:
I'm going to break this ticket in two:
# Remove old GCSHook and all usage of gcloud.
# Update the google-api-python-client code to use a [nice
clean|https://github.com/airbnb/airflow/pull/1119/files#diff-948e87b4f8f644b3ad8c7950958df033R2074]
form the way that GCSHook does (that takes fields for project, key path, etc).
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> Key: AIRFLOW-15
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AIRFLOW-15
> Project: Apache Airflow
> Issue Type: Task
>Reporter: Chris Riccomini
>Assignee: Chris Riccomini
>
> After speaking with Google, there was some concern about using the
> [gcloud-python|https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/gcloud-python] library
> for Airflow. There are several concerns:
> # It's not clear (even to people at Google) what this library is, who owns
> it, etc.
> # It does not support all services (the way
> [google-api-python-client|https://github.com/google/google-api-python-client]
> does).
> # There are compatibility issues between google-api-python-client and
> gcloudpython.
> We currently support both, after libraries depending on which package you you
> install: {{airfow[gcp_api]}} or {{airflow[gcloud]}}. This ticket is to remove
> the {{airflow[gcloud]}} packaged, and all associated code.
> The main associated code, afaik, is the use of the {{gcloud}} library in the
> Google cloud storage hooks/operators--specifically for Google cloud storage
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Chris Riccomini commented on AIRFLOW-15:
Removes these:
https://github.com/airbnb/airflow/pull/1137
https://github.com/airbnb/airflow/pull/1119
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> Key: AIRFLOW-15
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AIRFLOW-15
> Project: Apache Airflow
> Issue Type: Task
>Reporter: Chris Riccomini
>Assignee: Chris Riccomini
>
> After speaking with Google, there was some concern about using the
> [gcloud-python|https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/gcloud-python] library
> for Airflow. There are several concerns:
> # It's not clear (even to people at Google) what this library is, who owns
> it, etc.
> # It does not support all services (the way
> [google-api-python-client|https://github.com/google/google-api-python-client]
> does).
> # There are compatibility issues between google-api-python-client and
> gcloudpython.
> We currently support both, after libraries depending on which package you you
> install: {{airfow[gcp_api]}} or {{airflow[gcloud]}}. This ticket is to remove
> the {{airflow[gcloud]}} packaged, and all associated code.
> The main associated code, afaik, is the use of the {{gcloud}} library in the
> Google cloud storage hooks/operators--specifically for Google cloud storage
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Chris Riccomini commented on AIRFLOW-15:
Note: compatibility issue is because we currently use
{{SignedJwtAssertionCredentials}}, which was removed in the latest Google oauth
library. Upgrading gcp_api breaks due to this backwards compatibility (we'll
have to update our code). But gcloud requires the latest oauth library.
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> Key: AIRFLOW-15
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AIRFLOW-15
> Project: Apache Airflow
> Issue Type: Task
>Reporter: Chris Riccomini
>Assignee: Chris Riccomini
>
> After speaking with Google, there was some concern about using the
> [gcloud-python|https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/gcloud-python] library
> for Airflow. There are several concerns:
> # It's not clear (even to people at Google) what this library is, who owns
> it, etc.
> # It does not support all services (the way
> [google-api-python-client|https://github.com/google/google-api-python-client]
> does).
> # There are compatibility issues between google-api-python-client and
> gcloudpython.
> We currently support both, after libraries depending on which package you you
> install: {{airfow[gcp_api]}} or {{airflow[gcloud]}}. This ticket is to remove
> the {{airflow[gcloud]}} packaged, and all associated code.
> The main associated code, afaik, is the use of the {{gcloud}} library in the
> Google cloud storage hooks/operators--specifically for Google cloud storage
> Airfow logging.
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