Re: [codec] RE: more common classes need a home

2003-02-04 Thread Henri Yandell


On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, Incze Lajos wrote:

  In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Hen
  ri Yandell writes:
  
  I'm +1 to commons-uri.
  

 What about commons-naming?

That's JNDI.

Hen


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Re: [codec] RE: more common classes need a home

2003-02-03 Thread Jeffrey Dever
+1

Any timeline for raising codec out of the sandbox?


O'brien, Tim wrote:


Rev 1.1 of Base64 was checked in by Sander Striker about 1 year ago.  It was
initially from the HttpClient project.

The codec Base64 class has an open bug which also should point us in the
right direction: http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=16440

So, I'll make a proposal and hope for lazy consensus:

Let's replace Base64 in codec with the current HttpClient version.


Tim O'Brien 


 

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From: Jeffrey Dever [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 1:04 AM
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*commons.codec* sounds like a good place for this class.  Perhaps you 
could look at the various current implementations, and see if you can 
provide a common Base64 class attractive to everyone in Jakarta.  

Currently these projects (at least) have one plus your new 
codec package:
   tomcat
   xml-rpc
   slide
   httpclient

Three cheers for code reuse!

   

This goes into codec, which is still in Sandbox.
Infact there's already a Base64 there, but I'm not
sure how well it matches Slide's needs.



 

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Re: [codec] RE: more common classes need a home

2003-02-03 Thread Henri Yandell

It might need a little time for Tim to get things sorted out.

It's all a bit messy in there.

I guess the question needs to be whether it should focus on new
functionalities or wrapping up enough to goto Commons-proper.

Hen

On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, Jeffrey Dever wrote:

 +1

 Any timeline for raising codec out of the sandbox?


 O'brien, Tim wrote:

 Rev 1.1 of Base64 was checked in by Sander Striker about 1 year ago.  It was
 initially from the HttpClient project.
 
 The codec Base64 class has an open bug which also should point us in the
 right direction: http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=16440
 
 So, I'll make a proposal and hope for lazy consensus:
 
 Let's replace Base64 in codec with the current HttpClient version.
 
 
 Tim O'Brien
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jeffrey Dever [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 1:04 AM
 To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
 Subject: Re: more common classes need a home
 
 
 *commons.codec* sounds like a good place for this class.  Perhaps you
 could look at the various current implementations, and see if you can
 provide a common Base64 class attractive to everyone in Jakarta.
 
 Currently these projects (at least) have one plus your new
 codec package:
 tomcat
 xml-rpc
 slide
 httpclient
 
 Three cheers for code reuse!
 
 
 
 This goes into codec, which is still in Sandbox.
 Infact there's already a Base64 there, but I'm not
 sure how well it matches Slide's needs.
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [codec] RE: more common classes need a home

2003-02-03 Thread Ortwin Glück
+1

Maybe chunked transfer encoding and URL encoding would fit into this 
package as well somehow?

Odi

O'brien, Tim wrote:
Rev 1.1 of Base64 was checked in by Sander Striker about 1 year ago.  It was
initially from the HttpClient project.

The codec Base64 class has an open bug which also should point us in the
right direction: http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=16440

So, I'll make a proposal and hope for lazy consensus:

Let's replace Base64 in codec with the current HttpClient version.




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RE: [codec] RE: more common classes need a home

2003-02-03 Thread O'brien, Tim
URI, URL, and URNs are very general - and used everywhere in ASF - this
sounds like prime content for the Apache Commons.  I don't think that
[codec] is the appropriate place for UR[LIN] code, but maybe chunked
transfer encoding.

I think this is even more general than networks, go to the ISOC, IANA, IAB,
ITU, INTA, WIPO archives: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/index.html, and you'll
probably find that URLs are used for more things than you could've imagined.
Specifically, I've been taking a crack at telephony, and you've got SIP urls
and TEL urls, etc...  


Tim O'Brien 


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 From: Jeffrey Dever [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 11:37 AM
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  Maybe chunked transfer encoding and URL encoding would fit into this
  package as well somehow?
 
 
 Both of those are very http specific.  I'm trying to find a 
 home for all 
 the URI, URIUtil, HttpURL ... classes too, but don't think 
 that should 
 be codec.  There were some suggestions like commons-net, but 
 its taken. 
  Perhaps there is enough code for their own package commons-uri.
 
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RE: [codec] RE: more common classes need a home

2003-02-03 Thread Henri Yandell

I'm +1 to commons-uri.

As Tim points out, it's not just URLs, so we could even have pieces of
code for dealing with ISBNs etc if the need arose.

I don't think they really tie well to commons-io, and losing them in
commons-net would be a mistake probably.

Hen

On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, O'brien, Tim wrote:

 URI, URL, and URNs are very general - and used everywhere in ASF - this
 sounds like prime content for the Apache Commons.  I don't think that
 [codec] is the appropriate place for UR[LIN] code, but maybe chunked
 transfer encoding.

 I think this is even more general than networks, go to the ISOC, IANA, IAB,
 ITU, INTA, WIPO archives: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/index.html, and you'll
 probably find that URLs are used for more things than you could've imagined.
 Specifically, I've been taking a crack at telephony, and you've got SIP urls
 and TEL urls, etc...

 
 Tim O'Brien


  -Original Message-
  From: Jeffrey Dever [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 11:37 AM
  To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
  Subject: Re: [codec] RE: more common classes need a home
 
 
   Maybe chunked transfer encoding and URL encoding would fit into this
   package as well somehow?
 
 
  Both of those are very http specific.  I'm trying to find a
  home for all
  the URI, URIUtil, HttpURL ... classes too, but don't think
  that should
  be codec.  There were some suggestions like commons-net, but
  its taken.
   Perhaps there is enough code for their own package commons-uri.
 
 http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg?[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ache.orgmsgNo=23684


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Re: [codec] RE: more common classes need a home

2003-02-03 Thread Scott Sanders
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 10:46:23AM -0600, O'brien, Tim wrote:
 Rev 1.1 of Base64 was checked in by Sander Striker about 1 year ago.  It was
 initially from the HttpClient project.
 
 The codec Base64 class has an open bug which also should point us in the
 right direction: http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=16440
 
 So, I'll make a proposal and hope for lazy consensus:
 
 Let's replace Base64 in codec with the current HttpClient version.
 

I believe that was actually Scott Sanders (sanders), not Sander Striker (striker) :)

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RE: [codec] RE: more common classes need a home

2003-02-03 Thread O'brien, Tim
My apologies, Scott, my apologies.


Tim O'Brien 

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 Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 11:58 AM
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 Subject: Re: [codec] RE: more common classes need a home
 
 
 On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 10:46:23AM -0600, O'brien, Tim wrote:
  Rev 1.1 of Base64 was checked in by Sander Striker about 1 
 year ago.  
  It was initially from the HttpClient project.
  
  The codec Base64 class has an open bug which also should 
 point us in 
  the right direction: 
  http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=16440
  
  So, I'll make a proposal and hope for lazy consensus:
  
  Let's replace Base64 in codec with the current HttpClient version.
  
 
 I believe that was actually Scott Sanders (sanders), not 
 Sander Striker (striker) :)
 
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Re: [codec] RE: more common classes need a home

2003-02-03 Thread Daniel F. Savarese

I tried to read to the end of the thread so far before replying.
If the feeling is that the classes will see more use distributed
separately from HttpClient, I concur with Henri's assessment below.

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Hen
ri Yandell writes:

I'm +1 to commons-uri.

As Tim points out, it's not just URLs, so we could even have pieces of
code for dealing with ISBNs etc if the need arose.

I don't think they really tie well to commons-io, and losing them in
commons-net would be a mistake probably.


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