Re: [all] short critique of site
On Fri, 2005-12-02 at 23:47 +0100, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: Henri Yandell wrote: 7) Contributor page. Is this worth the effort of the maintenance? I don't know how this page is maintained currently, but maybe it could be built automatically from the POMs with a script ? +1 such a script might have other uses as well. any volunteers? - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [all] short critique of site
robert burrell donkin wrote: On Fri, 2005-12-02 at 23:47 +0100, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: Henri Yandell wrote: 7) Contributor page. Is this worth the effort of the maintenance? I don't know how this page is maintained currently, but maybe it could be built automatically from the POMs with a script ? +1 such a script might have other uses as well. any volunteers? Working on the script. Done weirder things with maven :) Just going for generating the contributors.xml file automatically though (just before the xdoc target is called. Mvgr, Martin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [all] short critique of site
On 12/1/05, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some thoughts on the site. snip/ B] Clicking on sandbox. 1) There are many projects which have become dormant. How should we be changing the site? 2) Corresponding Wiki page needs changing [my fault :) ] snap/ I tinkered with one of those wiki pages [1] (use Delete Cache action if you've looked at it recently ;-). I think the web site should similarly distinguish between sandbox and dormant components. The current sandbox page [2] (and therefore Commons home page as well) list them together, would there be any interest in separating the dormant components so the website actually matches the repository? I can post a patch for the website if there is interest. -Rahul [1] http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/CreatingStandardWebPresence [2] http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/index.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [all] short critique of site
A further remark about the site. I think that we should kill the big list of siblings on the left hand side of each component's site. It's no longer scoping, hard to keep up to date and not that useful. People can '..' up to Commons via the links. Admittedly my other ideas on the site might make this redundant as I want to largely get rid of the component sites all together, but thought I'd bring this one up separately as well :) Hen On 12/1/05, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some thoughts on the site. A] Looking at the front page. 1) Jakarta link on the bar is redundant. We already have a huge logo in the top left. 2) No need to include the direct svn link, just use viewcvs. Simpler for the user. 3) Korea translation link is dead. 4) Japanese translation link is out of date. 5) While the wiki is unofficial documentation, it is an official resource. 6) DB Commons is empty. 7) Contributor page. Is this worth the effort of the maintenance? B] Clicking on sandbox. 1) There are many projects which have become dormant. How should we be changing the site? 2) Corresponding Wiki page needs changing [my fault :) ] Okay, onto something else next. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [all] short critique of site
On 12/3/05, Rahul Akolkar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/1/05, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some thoughts on the site. snip/ B] Clicking on sandbox. 1) There are many projects which have become dormant. How should we be changing the site? 2) Corresponding Wiki page needs changing [my fault :) ] snap/ I tinkered with one of those wiki pages [1] (use Delete Cache action if you've looked at it recently ;-). I think the web site should similarly distinguish between sandbox and dormant components. The current sandbox page [2] (and therefore Commons home page as well) list them together, would there be any interest in separating the dormant components so the website actually matches the repository? I can post a patch for the website if there is interest. interest :) Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [all] short critique of site
On 12/1/05, Martin Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/1/05, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some thoughts on the site. A] Looking at the front page. 1) Jakarta link on the bar is redundant. We already have a huge logo in the top left. 2) No need to include the direct svn link, just use viewcvs. Simpler for the user. Perhaps, but AIUI viewcvs puts a significantly higher load on our infrastructure, and the infra@ folks have specifically stated that they would prefer people to use direct links to the SVN repo. Not sure that holds true anymore, but I don't think the user clicking through the site to browse source is the major problem with the load. I'll get confirmation from them before suggesting it be removed. Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [all] short critique of site
Might I add: 8) The bug database link should point to a page where an user is advised to look in the sites of the single components instead of pointing to http://jakarta.apache.org/site/bugs.html Henri Yandell wrote: Some thoughts on the site. A] Looking at the front page. 1) Jakarta link on the bar is redundant. We already have a huge logo in the top left. 2) No need to include the direct svn link, just use viewcvs. Simpler for the user. 3) Korea translation link is dead. 4) Japanese translation link is out of date. 5) While the wiki is unofficial documentation, it is an official resource. 6) DB Commons is empty. 7) Contributor page. Is this worth the effort of the maintenance? B] Clicking on sandbox. 1) There are many projects which have become dormant. How should we be changing the site? 2) Corresponding Wiki page needs changing [my fault :) ] Okay, onto something else next. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [all] short critique of site
Henri Yandell wrote: 7) Contributor page. Is this worth the effort of the maintenance? I don't know how this page is maintained currently, but maybe it could be built automatically from the POMs with a script ? Emmanuel Bourg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [all] short critique of site
On 12/1/05, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some thoughts on the site. A] Looking at the front page. 1) Jakarta link on the bar is redundant. We already have a huge logo in the top left. 2) No need to include the direct svn link, just use viewcvs. Simpler for the user. Perhaps, but AIUI viewcvs puts a significantly higher load on our infrastructure, and the infra@ folks have specifically stated that they would prefer people to use direct links to the SVN repo. -- Martin Cooper 3) Korea translation link is dead. 4) Japanese translation link is out of date. 5) While the wiki is unofficial documentation, it is an official resource. 6) DB Commons is empty. 7) Contributor page. Is this worth the effort of the maintenance? B] Clicking on sandbox. 1) There are many projects which have become dormant. How should we be changing the site? 2) Corresponding Wiki page needs changing [my fault :) ] Okay, onto something else next. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]