RE: 2.0 beta 1 development
> I agree. Apache is a "scratch your itch" organisation. ;-) People work on > what they want to work on. That, IMHO, is the way open source should be. > True, to an extent. Unfortunately, open-source is known to be weak at tackling little nasty problems or tedious and difficult to reproduce problems that nobody really feels thrilled about. HttpClient client is exactly at such critical juncture right now. We have only a handful of outstanding bugs that have been sitting on out to-do list for weeks & months. I doubt I will see people queue to contribute patches for those problems Take a look at the most successful open-source projects out there. They may differ in many ways but they all usually one thing in common: they combine a freewheeling nature of open-source development with string leadership and dedicated, disciplined core of developers. Those developers do things that need to be done (at least form time to time). Oleg > -- > Martin Cooper > > > > Everyone stays > > informed, everyone has choice and the work converges towards the > > completion of a goal, the release. I spend a fair amount of > > time trying > > to keep bugzilla in good order and people generally cooperate > > with this. > > > > It does make release targets difficult to meet, but I think > > its the best > > way to go. > > > > But if anyone wants to be a hired gun, that would be super helpful. > > There are a couple of people that fall into this category > > which really > > helps achieve milestones. I'd be happy to allocate tasks > > when requested > > on a case by case basis. > > > > Jandalf. > > > > > > Oleg Kalnichevski wrote: > > > > >Jandalf > > > > > >I believe you should take the lead in assigning the > > outstanding issues > > >to developers. There should be clarity regarding who tackles > > what issue. > > >What do you think? > > > > > >Oleg > > > > > >On Tue, 2003-02-25 at 21:39, Jeffrey Dever wrote: > > > > > > > > >>We are now back in the Beta 1 development phase. There are > > currently 14 > > >>outstanding issues to tackle before we can drop another > > release. Work is > > >>going extremely well. Great thanks to everyone that was involved! > > >> > > >>We should be addressing the beta 1 bugs before other > > issues. I think > > >>that we can reach the beta 1 target within a month. After > > that there is > > >>not too much left before the final release of 2.0. > > >> > > >>The stream is open. Please test, code, patch and commit away! > > >> > > >>Jeff (Jandalf) Dever > > >>HttpClient 2.0 Release Prime. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > - > > >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>For additional commands, e-mail: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > >- > > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >For additional commands, e-mail: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 2.0 beta 1 development
> -Original Message- > From: Jeffrey Dever [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 7:43 AM > To: Commons HttpClient Project > Subject: Re: 2.0 beta 1 development > > > Well, I'd rather not have that responsibility. I'm not signing any > paycheques, and so have no right to assign tasks. > > Ideally anyone availabile to work on an issue would just grab > one from > Bugzilla, assign it to themselves and work on it. I agree. Apache is a "scratch your itch" organisation. ;-) People work on what they want to work on. That, IMHO, is the way open source should be. -- Martin Cooper > Everyone stays > informed, everyone has choice and the work converges towards the > completion of a goal, the release. I spend a fair amount of > time trying > to keep bugzilla in good order and people generally cooperate > with this. > > It does make release targets difficult to meet, but I think > its the best > way to go. > > But if anyone wants to be a hired gun, that would be super helpful. > There are a couple of people that fall into this category > which really > helps achieve milestones. I'd be happy to allocate tasks > when requested > on a case by case basis. > > Jandalf. > > > Oleg Kalnichevski wrote: > > >Jandalf > > > >I believe you should take the lead in assigning the > outstanding issues > >to developers. There should be clarity regarding who tackles > what issue. > >What do you think? > > > >Oleg > > > >On Tue, 2003-02-25 at 21:39, Jeffrey Dever wrote: > > > > > >>We are now back in the Beta 1 development phase. There are > currently 14 > >>outstanding issues to tackle before we can drop another > release. Work is > >>going extremely well. Great thanks to everyone that was involved! > >> > >>We should be addressing the beta 1 bugs before other > issues. I think > >>that we can reach the beta 1 target within a month. After > that there is > >>not too much left before the final release of 2.0. > >> > >>The stream is open. Please test, code, patch and commit away! > >> > >>Jeff (Jandalf) Dever > >>HttpClient 2.0 Release Prime. > >> > >> > >> > - > >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.0 beta 1 development
Well, I'd rather not have that responsibility. I'm not signing any paycheques, and so have no right to assign tasks. Ideally anyone availabile to work on an issue would just grab one from Bugzilla, assign it to themselves and work on it. Everyone stays informed, everyone has choice and the work converges towards the completion of a goal, the release. I spend a fair amount of time trying to keep bugzilla in good order and people generally cooperate with this. It does make release targets difficult to meet, but I think its the best way to go. But if anyone wants to be a hired gun, that would be super helpful. There are a couple of people that fall into this category which really helps achieve milestones. I'd be happy to allocate tasks when requested on a case by case basis. Jandalf. Oleg Kalnichevski wrote: Jandalf I believe you should take the lead in assigning the outstanding issues to developers. There should be clarity regarding who tackles what issue. What do you think? Oleg On Tue, 2003-02-25 at 21:39, Jeffrey Dever wrote: We are now back in the Beta 1 development phase. There are currently 14 outstanding issues to tackle before we can drop another release. Work is going extremely well. Great thanks to everyone that was involved! We should be addressing the beta 1 bugs before other issues. I think that we can reach the beta 1 target within a month. After that there is not too much left before the final release of 2.0. The stream is open. Please test, code, patch and commit away! Jeff (Jandalf) Dever HttpClient 2.0 Release Prime. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.0 beta 1 development
Jandalf I believe you should take the lead in assigning the outstanding issues to developers. There should be clarity regarding who tackles what issue. What do you think? Oleg On Tue, 2003-02-25 at 21:39, Jeffrey Dever wrote: > We are now back in the Beta 1 development phase. There are currently 14 > outstanding issues to tackle before we can drop another release. Work is > going extremely well. Great thanks to everyone that was involved! > > We should be addressing the beta 1 bugs before other issues. I think > that we can reach the beta 1 target within a month. After that there is > not too much left before the final release of 2.0. > > The stream is open. Please test, code, patch and commit away! > > Jeff (Jandalf) Dever > HttpClient 2.0 Release Prime. > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2.0 beta 1 development
We are now back in the Beta 1 development phase. There are currently 14 outstanding issues to tackle before we can drop another release. Work is going extremely well. Great thanks to everyone that was involved! We should be addressing the beta 1 bugs before other issues. I think that we can reach the beta 1 target within a month. After that there is not too much left before the final release of 2.0. The stream is open. Please test, code, patch and commit away! Jeff (Jandalf) Dever HttpClient 2.0 Release Prime. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
