Re: Is HttpClient supported by non-Sun VMs?
Yes NTLM and SSL would probably be lost. I agree. I think 1.1 is old enough that it should be forgotten. Having said that, doing some minor refactoring work to make HttpClient work in 1.1 is certainly much better then reinventing the wheel. I guess my intent is to encourage people to make their own 1.1 port of HttpClient. I was able to get the unit tests (local and no host) up and running in eclipse with 1.1 in about 15 minutes. This is not something that I would like to maintain alongside the standard HttpClient, but it certainly can be done. Mike Oleg Kalnichevski wrote: NTLM & SSL as standard features would also have to go (there are some Java 1.1 compatible JCE & JSSE implementations but I do not know of any available under open-source licence) In general the use of Java 1.1 should be strongly discouraged in my opinion. The users of legacy platforms like Mac OS < 10 and IE should feel the pressure to upgrade (side-grade in case of IE ;-)) Oleg On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 19:34, Michael Becke wrote: I was just looking at how much work is required to make HttpClient work in a 1.1 JVM. Suprisingly it would not be that hard. Mostly it would just require the 1.1 collections jar and some package import rewriting. There are a few things like GCed connection reclaiming in MultiThreadedHttpConnectionManager and the use of Socket.sendBufferSize() that would need to be removed but that's about it. Is there enough interest in 1.1 support for a semi-supported version? Mike - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Is HttpClient supported by non-Sun VMs?
I'd agree. I think at some point you just have to put the line in the sand (funny when
we do it, it's ok, when M$ did it with Win 3.1 with Win95, we bitch and moan :)
because the costs of maintaining for older JDK's are much higher than any benefits on
those platforms.
Mark
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From: Oleg Kalnichevski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thu 7/3/2003 1:52 PM
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Subject: Re: Is HttpClient supported by non-Sun VMs?
NTLM & SSL as standard features would also have to go (there are some
Java 1.1 compatible JCE & JSSE implementations but I do not know of any
available under open-source licence)
In general the use of Java 1.1 should be strongly discouraged in my
opinion. The users of legacy platforms like Mac OS < 10 and IE should
feel the pressure to upgrade (side-grade in case of IE ;-))
Oleg
On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 19:34, Michael Becke wrote:
> I was just looking at how much work is required to make HttpClient work
> in a 1.1 JVM. Suprisingly it would not be that hard. Mostly it would
> just require the 1.1 collections jar and some package import rewriting.
> There are a few things like GCed connection reclaiming in
> MultiThreadedHttpConnectionManager and the use of
> Socket.sendBufferSize() that would need to be removed but that's about
> it. Is there enough interest in 1.1 support for a semi-supported version?
>
> Mike
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Re: Is HttpClient supported by non-Sun VMs?
NTLM & SSL as standard features would also have to go (there are some Java 1.1 compatible JCE & JSSE implementations but I do not know of any available under open-source licence) In general the use of Java 1.1 should be strongly discouraged in my opinion. The users of legacy platforms like Mac OS < 10 and IE should feel the pressure to upgrade (side-grade in case of IE ;-)) Oleg On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 19:34, Michael Becke wrote: > I was just looking at how much work is required to make HttpClient work > in a 1.1 JVM. Suprisingly it would not be that hard. Mostly it would > just require the 1.1 collections jar and some package import rewriting. > There are a few things like GCed connection reclaiming in > MultiThreadedHttpConnectionManager and the use of > Socket.sendBufferSize() that would need to be removed but that's about > it. Is there enough interest in 1.1 support for a semi-supported version? > > Mike > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is HttpClient supported by non-Sun VMs?
I was just looking at how much work is required to make HttpClient work in a 1.1 JVM. Suprisingly it would not be that hard. Mostly it would just require the 1.1 collections jar and some package import rewriting. There are a few things like GCed connection reclaiming in MultiThreadedHttpConnectionManager and the use of Socket.sendBufferSize() that would need to be removed but that's about it. Is there enough interest in 1.1 support for a semi-supported version? Mike - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Is HttpClient supported by non-Sun VMs?
Robert, Welcome to the club. I use HttpClient for a similar purpose: exchanging XML formatted files between a client and a server, (or as I like referring to it: poor man's SOAP). And [sigh] I do have to support all those two and a half users who insist on using MacOS 9.x with no Java 2 compatible JVM. If you do not need a full blown HTTP protocol support, you might be much better off just writing to a raw socket. I am not that lucky. I'll have to fork HttpClient at some point and port it to Java 1.1.8. Oleg -Original Message- From: Robert Csiki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 7/3/2003 16:51 To: 'Commons HttpClient Project' Cc: Subject: RE: Is HttpClient supported by non-Sun VMs? Oleg, That's what I was affraid of. The only reason I wanted to use it in my applet was to solve memory issues for large file uploads (java.net.URLConnection allways buffers the output before sending and for large files I got out of memory error message). The applet is part of a product that must support all Windows and Macintosh browsers. Having that known, I cannot use HttpClient and have to try another solution to handle my issue. Thank you. Robert -Original Message- From: Kalnichevski, Oleg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: July 3, 2003 10:42 AM To: Commons HttpClient Project Subject: RE: Is HttpClient supported by non-Sun VMs? Robert, If my memory does not fail me, IE is shipped with Microsoft JVM 1.1.4. HttpClient requires a Java 2 compatible (1.2.x and above) JVM. I am afraid your only option is to deploy Sun's Java plug-in for IE if you want to be using HttpClient in an applet. As to Mac OS 9.x, to my best knowledge, Java 2 is not even officially supported by Apple on that platform. The highest JVM version supported on MacOS 9.x is 1.1.8. Oleg -Original Message- From: Robert Csiki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 7/3/2003 16:06 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: Subject: Is HttpClient supported by non-Sun VMs? > Hi, > > I want to use HttpClient inside an applet that will run in both Microsoft > VM (Internet Explorer) and MRJ (Macintosh browsers). > Are those supported Virtual Machines? > > Thanks! > Robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is HttpClient supported by non-Sun VMs?
Robert, They way I solved this for one project was to do a custom uploader to my own servlet. You can get much better performance streaming your own binary data to a servlet you control. You can even deflate the data first. David Robert Csiki wrote: Oleg, That's what I was affraid of. The only reason I wanted to use it in my applet was to solve memory issues for large file uploads (java.net.URLConnection allways buffers the output before sending and for large files I got out of memory error message). The applet is part of a product that must support all Windows and Macintosh browsers. Having that known, I cannot use HttpClient and have to try another solution to handle my issue. Thank you. Robert -Original Message- From: Kalnichevski, Oleg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: July 3, 2003 10:42 AM To: Commons HttpClient Project Subject: RE: Is HttpClient supported by non-Sun VMs? Robert, If my memory does not fail me, IE is shipped with Microsoft JVM 1.1.4. HttpClient requires a Java 2 compatible (1.2.x and above) JVM. I am afraid your only option is to deploy Sun's Java plug-in for IE if you want to be using HttpClient in an applet. As to Mac OS 9.x, to my best knowledge, Java 2 is not even officially supported by Apple on that platform. The highest JVM version supported on MacOS 9.x is 1.1.8. Oleg -Original Message- From: Robert Csiki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 7/3/2003 16:06 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: Subject: Is HttpClient supported by non-Sun VMs? Hi, I want to use HttpClient inside an applet that will run in both Microsoft VM (Internet Explorer) and MRJ (Macintosh browsers). Are those supported Virtual Machines? Thanks! Robert
RE: Is HttpClient supported by non-Sun VMs?
Oleg, That's what I was affraid of. The only reason I wanted to use it in my applet was to solve memory issues for large file uploads (java.net.URLConnection allways buffers the output before sending and for large files I got out of memory error message). The applet is part of a product that must support all Windows and Macintosh browsers. Having that known, I cannot use HttpClient and have to try another solution to handle my issue. Thank you. Robert -Original Message- From: Kalnichevski, Oleg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: July 3, 2003 10:42 AM To: Commons HttpClient Project Subject: RE: Is HttpClient supported by non-Sun VMs? Robert, If my memory does not fail me, IE is shipped with Microsoft JVM 1.1.4. HttpClient requires a Java 2 compatible (1.2.x and above) JVM. I am afraid your only option is to deploy Sun's Java plug-in for IE if you want to be using HttpClient in an applet. As to Mac OS 9.x, to my best knowledge, Java 2 is not even officially supported by Apple on that platform. The highest JVM version supported on MacOS 9.x is 1.1.8. Oleg -Original Message- From: Robert Csiki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 7/3/2003 16:06 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: Subject: Is HttpClient supported by non-Sun VMs? > Hi, > > I want to use HttpClient inside an applet that will run in both Microsoft > VM (Internet Explorer) and MRJ (Macintosh browsers). > Are those supported Virtual Machines? > > Thanks! > Robert
RE: Is HttpClient supported by non-Sun VMs?
Robert, If my memory does not fail me, IE is shipped with Microsoft JVM 1.1.4. HttpClient requires a Java 2 compatible (1.2.x and above) JVM. I am afraid your only option is to deploy Sun's Java plug-in for IE if you want to be using HttpClient in an applet. As to Mac OS 9.x, to my best knowledge, Java 2 is not even officially supported by Apple on that platform. The highest JVM version supported on MacOS 9.x is 1.1.8. Oleg -Original Message- From: Robert Csiki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 7/3/2003 16:06 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: Subject: Is HttpClient supported by non-Sun VMs? > Hi, > > I want to use HttpClient inside an applet that will run in both Microsoft > VM (Internet Explorer) and MRJ (Macintosh browsers). > Are those supported Virtual Machines? > > Thanks! > Robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is HttpClient supported by non-Sun VMs?
> Hi, > > I want to use HttpClient inside an applet that will run in both Microsoft > VM (Internet Explorer) and MRJ (Macintosh browsers). > Are those supported Virtual Machines? > > Thanks! > Robert
