Re: [Commons-l] Preferred licenses
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 8:31 AM, Neil Kandalgaonkar wrote: > For the new uploader I'm working on[1], we want it to remember your > previous preferences about what license to use and maybe a few other things. >.. > > [1] http://commons.prototype.wikimedia.org/ -- this is JUST a prototype, > we're changing a lot My upload of non-free "Bulogo.gif" went ahead because it was uploaded _before_ I was presented with the licensing dilemma. Will there be an automatic purge of incomplete uploads? My upload of PD-US "MajorGeneralHood.jpg" hung in the "Describe" phase. On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Gnangarra wrote: > While default license is a good idea we need to remember that the uploaders > are making a choice to release their work > > With that they should be making the choice and not having us(some automated > process) do it for them because they are giving away rights to their work. A > prefilled form could be argued as taking the licensing options away from the > uploader, and therefore Commons taking responsability for the release of the > material. >.. I was going to voice similar concerns! ;-) The breakdown on [[Commons:Upload]] is quite important. IMO, the only safe use for a preferred license is in the case of 'entirely my own work'. If the upload is 'a derivative work of a file from Commons' or 'from another Wikimedia project', the uploaders preferred license is not relevant. The ability to upload multiple files would be a nice feature, however given that the licensing phase of the wizard is simplifying the options, the design needs to be careful to ensure that the user confirms that all uploads files are of the same license type. -- John Vandenberg ___ Commons-l mailing list Commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/commons-l
Re: [Commons-l] Preferred licenses
While default license is a good idea we need to remember that the uploaders are making a choice to release their work With that they should be making the choice and not having us(some automated process) do it for them because they are giving away rights to their work. A prefilled form could be argued as taking the licensing options away from the uploader, and therefore Commons taking responsability for the release of the material. Admins have always look unfavourably at deletion request because the loader says they didnt intend releasing the work for commercial use or thought they were only releasing for educational use or some other reason, we can do that because the person made the choice with each and every upload not us. Automatically prefilling the upload form with a license removes the choice/decision to over come that we would then need an alternative check box for the uploader to acknowledge that they understand the rights they are releasing. We need people to freely release media, we need them to do in such away that we can be confident that what ever licensing the uploader chooses it is them making the choice not us. As for a catergory option how do we distinguish the license choice where we have two or more different licensing options the Mark Twain example let say I have access to the a complete set of original books I lay them out in a display s as to show different features(not a reproduction of each book) I then categorise it under Photographs by me -- i use (cc-by-2.5) Books by Mark Twain -- PD-old the license because there is effort and originality in the composition I am the copyright holder of that image the license is CC-by-2.5, I was to then photograph each book individually and the image was entirely the book/page then it would be PD, no automotion process can distinguish between these two images to make a valid choice nor should it again because its the uploaders responsability to upload the images with the appropriate license. On 22 July 2010 03:32, Maarten Dammers wrote: > Op 21-7-2010 4:48, Neil Kandalgaonkar schreef: > > On 7/20/10 7:28 PM, Stephen Bain wrote: > > > > > >> Perhaps a checkbox could be displayed when the licence field is filled > >> with the default preference but the user inputs something else, asking > >> if they would like to update their preference? > >> > >> > > That might not be too bad. I think I'd put question that *after* the > > upload was done though. > > > > > Just give the user the option to set a default license for own work > files. If the user doesn't select own work in the upload form -> don't > set the default license. > > Maarten > > > ___ > Commons-l mailing list > Commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/commons-l > -- GN. Photo Gallery: http://gnangarra.redbubble.com Gn. Blogg: http://gnangarra.wordpress.com ___ Commons-l mailing list Commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/commons-l
Re: [Commons-l] Preferred licenses
Op 21-7-2010 4:48, Neil Kandalgaonkar schreef: > On 7/20/10 7:28 PM, Stephen Bain wrote: > > >> Perhaps a checkbox could be displayed when the licence field is filled >> with the default preference but the user inputs something else, asking >> if they would like to update their preference? >> >> > That might not be too bad. I think I'd put question that *after* the > upload was done though. > > Just give the user the option to set a default license for own work files. If the user doesn't select own work in the upload form -> don't set the default license. Maarten ___ Commons-l mailing list Commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/commons-l
