RE: [VOTE] Openness

2002-11-05 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
 VOTE 1:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to read 
 this mail list thru a web archive?
 
   [X] +1 yes, let's make it readable
   [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
   [ ] -1 no, let's keep it private
 
 
 - o -
 
 
 VOTE 2:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to fully 
 subscribe to this mail list?
 
   [ ] +1 yes, let's open it to everyone
   [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
   [X] -1 no, let's keep it for committers only
 
 
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Re: [VOTE] Openness

2002-11-03 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Andrew C. Oliver wrote:


 Hmmm.  I looked at the datestamp of the original vote message and it
 looked like I was under the 78 hour window for voting.  But you are
 correct, it doesn't matter since I am just affirming the result.


I thought it was 72 hrs ? ;-)
Yeah, right, my mistake. 3 days = 72 hours not 78 :) I can't even count 
anymore.

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Re: [VOTE] Openness

2002-11-02 Thread Glenn Nielsen
 VOTE 1:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to read 
 this mail list thru a web archive?
 
   [X] +1 yes, let's make it readable
   [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
   [ ] -1 no, let's keep it private
 
 
 - o -
 
 
 VOTE 2:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to fully 
 subscribe to this mail list?
 
   [ ] +1 yes, let's open it to everyone
   [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
   [X] -1 no, let's keep it for committers only
 


Re: [VOTE] Openness

2002-11-02 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Glenn Nielsen wrote:
VOTE 1:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to read
this mail list thru a web archive?

  [X] +1 yes, let's make it readable
  [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
  [ ] -1 no, let's keep it private


- o -


VOTE 2:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to fully
subscribe to this mail list?

  [ ] +1 yes, let's open it to everyone
  [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
  [X] -1 no, let's keep it for committers only

Sorry Glenn, the vote was closed. But since the result was exactly what 
you wanted I don't think this upsets you :)

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Re: [VOTE] Openness

2002-11-02 Thread Glenn Nielsen
On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 04:29:16PM +0100, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
 Glenn Nielsen wrote:
 
  VOTE 1:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to read
  this mail list thru a web archive?
  
[X] +1 yes, let's make it readable
[ ]  0 don't know/don't care
[ ] -1 no, let's keep it private
  
  
  - o -
  
  
  VOTE 2:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to fully
  subscribe to this mail list?
  
[ ] +1 yes, let's open it to everyone
[ ]  0 don't know/don't care
[X] -1 no, let's keep it for committers only
  
 
 Sorry Glenn, the vote was closed. But since the result was exactly what 
 you wanted I don't think this upsets you :)
 

Hmmm.  I looked at the datestamp of the original vote message and it
looked like I was under the 78 hour window for voting.  But you are
correct, it doesn't matter since I am just affirming the result.

Glenn


Re: [VOTE] Openness

2002-11-02 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

Hmmm.  I looked at the datestamp of the original vote message and it
looked like I was under the 78 hour window for voting.  But you are
correct, it doesn't matter since I am just affirming the result.
 

I thought it was 72 hrs ? ;-)
Glenn
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Re: [VOTE] Openness

2002-11-01 Thread Ovidiu Predescu
I agree with Stefan here. I think we need the transparency, but we want 
to avoid the noise of too many people exposing their ideas. There are 
better forums for them to express this. We need to keep this list 
focused on what matters to us.

On Thursday, Oct 31, 2002, at 02:51 US/Pacific, Stefan Bodewig wrote:
VOTE 1:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to read
this mail list thru a web archive?
  [X] +1 yes, let's make it readable
  [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
  [ ] -1 no, let's keep it private
VOTE 2:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to
fully subscribe to this mail list?
  [ ] +1 yes, let's open it to everyone
  [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
  [X] -1 no, let's keep it for committers only
Regards,
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Re: [VOTE] Openness

2002-11-01 Thread Glyn Normington

VOTE 1:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to read
this mail list thru a web archive?

  [X] +1 yes, let's make it readable
  [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
  [ ] -1 no, let's keep it private


- o -


VOTE 2:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to fully
subscribe to this mail list?

  [ ] +1 yes, let's open it to everyone
  [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
  [X] -1 no, let's keep it for committers only



Re: [VOTE] Openness

2002-11-01 Thread Glyn Normington

I wasn't trying to vote twice, but I thought the first attempt from this
email address would have been rejected. Sorry!

Glyn Normington
http://cvs.apache.org/~glyn



Re: [VOTE] Openness

2002-11-01 Thread ilene
 VOTE 1:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to read
 this mail list thru a web archive?

   [ ] +1 yes, let's make it readable
   [X]  0 don't know/don't care
   [ ] -1 no, let's keep it private


 - o -


 VOTE 2:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to fully
 subscribe to this mail list?

   [ ] +1 yes, let's open it to everyone
   [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
   [X] -1 no, let's keep it for committers only


Ilene.
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Re: [VOTE] Openness

2002-10-31 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Torsten Curdt wrote:
[ ] +1 yes, let's make it readable
[X]  0 don't know/don't care
[ ] -1 no, let's keep it private
 

 

VOTE 2:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to
fully subscribe to this mail list?
[ ] +1 yes, let's open it to everyone
[ ]  0 don't know/don't care
[X] -1 no, let's keep it for committers only
 

...OR THOSE INVITED
Ditto.
Vadim

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Re: [VOTE] Openness

2002-10-31 Thread Morgan Delagrange
Hey all,

--- Vadim Gritsenko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Torsten Curdt wrote:

[snip]

 VOTE 2:  would you like to make it possible for
 non-committers to
 fully subscribe to this mail list?
 
  [ ] +1 yes, let's open it to everyone
  [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
  [X] -1 no, let's keep it for committers only
   
 
 ...OR THOSE INVITED
 
 
 Ditto.
 

Actually, specifying invitees as a qualification to
the -1 may not be necessary, if each invitee will need
to be voted in individually anyway.  Only if invitees
may be added without a vote do we need to resolve the
matter, and that's probably worthy of a specific
second vote if -1 proves the majority opinion.

Just pointing out that you probably needn't worry
about this detail.  IMO we should wait for the -1
result, and then determine the terms by which we will
add invitees.

- Morgan  

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Re: [VOTE] Openness

2002-10-31 Thread Ted Husted
10/30/2002 12:19:03 PM, Stefano Mazzocchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
VOTE 1:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to 
read this mail list thru a web archive?

  [x] +1 yes, let's make it readable
  [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
  [ ] -1 no, let's keep it private

VOTE 2:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to 
fully subscribe to this mail list?

  [ ] +1 yes, let's open it to everyone
  [x]  0 don't know/don't care
  [ ] -1 no, let's keep it for committers only





Re: [VOTE] Openness

2002-10-31 Thread Rainer Klute
VOTE 1:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to read 
this mail list thru a web archive?

  [ ] +1 yes, let's make it readable
  [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
  [X] -1 no, let's keep it private


- o -


VOTE 2:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to fully 
subscribe to this mail list?

  [ ] +1 yes, let's open it to everyone
  [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
  [X] -1 no, let's keep it for committers only

Best regards
Rainer Klute

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Re: [VOTE] Openness

2002-10-31 Thread Conor MacNeill
VOTE 1:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to read
this mail list thru a web archive?
 [X] +1 yes, let's make it readable
 [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
 [ ] -1 no, let's keep it private
VOTE 2:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to fully
subscribe to this mail list?
 [ ] +1 yes, let's open it to everyone
 [X]  0 don't know/don't care
 [ ] -1 no, let's keep it for committers only



Re: [VOTE] Openness

2002-10-31 Thread Marcus Crafter
On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 06:19:03PM +0100, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
 
 VOTE 1:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to read 
 this mail list thru a web archive?
 
  [X] +1 yes, let's make it readable
  [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
  [ ] -1 no, let's keep it private
 
 VOTE 2:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to fully 
 subscribe to this mail list?
 
  [X] +1 yes, let's open it to everyone
  [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
  [ ] -1 no, let's keep it for committers only

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Re: [VOTE] Openness

2002-10-31 Thread Stefan Bodewig
VOTE 1:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to read
this mail list thru a web archive?

  [X] +1 yes, let's make it readable
  [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
  [ ] -1 no, let's keep it private

VOTE 2:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to
fully subscribe to this mail list?

  [ ] +1 yes, let's open it to everyone
  [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
  [X] -1 no, let's keep it for committers only

Stefan


Re: [VOTE] Openness

2002-10-31 Thread Diana Shannon
On Wednesday, October 30, 2002, at 12:19  PM, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
VOTE 1:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to read 
this mail list thru a web archive?

 [x] +1 yes, let's make it readable
 [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
 [ ] -1 no, let's keep it private
VOTE 2:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to fully 
subscribe to this mail list?

 [x] +1 yes, let's open it to everyone
 [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
 [ ] -1 no, let's keep it for committers only
Diana


Re: [VOTE] Openness

2002-10-31 Thread Giacomo Pati
On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:

 VOTE 1:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to read
 this mail list thru a web archive?

   [ ] +1 yes, let's make it readable
   [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
   [X] -1 no, let's keep it private


 - o -


 VOTE 2:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to fully
 subscribe to this mail list?

   [ ] +1 yes, let's open it to everyone
   [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
   [X] -1 no, let's keep it for committers only

plus invited ones.

Giacomo



Re: [VOTE] Openness

2002-10-31 Thread Shane Curcuru/CAM/Lotus
On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:

 VOTE 1:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to read
 this mail list thru a web archive?

   [ ] +1 yes, let's make it readable
   [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
   [X] -1 no, let's keep it private -sc

 - o -

 VOTE 2:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to fully
 subscribe to this mail list?

   [ ] +1 yes, let's open it to everyone
   [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
   [X] -1 no, let's keep it for committers only -sc


I have this feeling that it would be best to use community@ as a tool to 
help our *existing* community grow towards a more common understanding 
first, before we start worrying about trying to grow the size of our 
community.

And as a side note, could folks be a little more selective in including 
text in replys/forwards?  Please try to only forward the directly 
relevant parts of previous emails, instead of including the whole previous 
email.

- Shane
aka [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: [VOTE] Openness

2002-10-30 Thread Henri Yandell


On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:

 VOTE 1:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to read
 this mail list thru a web archive?

   [ X ] +1 yes, let's make it readable
   [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
   [ ] -1 no, let's keep it private


 - o -


 VOTE 2:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to fully
 subscribe to this mail list?

   [ ] +1 yes, let's open it to everyone
   [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
   [ X ] -1 no, let's keep it for committers only


 - o -

 Please, place your vote even if you already voted in the previous poll.

 We'll reset the clock and give 78 hours for the vote.

 I volunteer to count the retults and post them here.



Re: [VOTE] Openness

2002-10-30 Thread Steven Noels
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
VOTE 1:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to read 
this mail list thru a web archive?

 [x] +1 yes, let's make it readable

VOTE 2:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to fully 
subscribe to this mail list?

 [x] +1 yes, let's open it to everyone

Thanks in advance and sorry for the double poll noise.
No problem.
/Steven
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Re: [VOTE] Openness

2002-10-30 Thread Daniel Rall
Stefano Mazzocchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 VOTE 1:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to read
 this mail list thru a web archive?
 
 
   [ ] +1 yes, let's make it readable
   [X]  0 don't know/don't care
   [ ] -1 no, let's keep it private
 
 
 - o -
 
 
 VOTE 2:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to
 fully subscribe to this mail list?
 
 
   [ ] +1 yes, let's open it to everyone
   [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
   [X] -1 no, let's keep it for committers __OR THOSE INVITED__
-- 

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Re: [VOTE] Openness

2002-10-30 Thread David Shane Holden
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
VOTE 1:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to read 
this mail list thru a web archive?

 [x] +1 yes, let's make it readable
 [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
 [ ] -1 no, let's keep it private
   - o -
VOTE 2:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to fully 
subscribe to this mail list?

 [ ] +1 yes, let's open it to everyone
 [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
 [x] -1 no, let's keep it for committers only



Re: [VOTE] Openness

2002-10-30 Thread Sam Ruby
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
VOTE 1:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to read 
this mail list thru a web archive?

 [X] +1 yes, let's make it readable
VOTE 2:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to fully 
subscribe to this mail list?

 [X]  0 don't know/don't care
- Sam Ruby



Re: [VOTE] Openness

2002-10-30 Thread Chuck Murcko
On Wednesday, October 30, 2002, at 10:19 AM, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
VOTE 1:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to read 
this mail list thru a web archive?

 [X ] +1 yes, let's make it readable
 [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
 [ ] -1 no, let's keep it private
   - o -
VOTE 2:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to fully 
subscribe to this mail list?

 [ ] +1 yes, let's open it to everyone
 [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
 [X ] -1 no, let's keep it for committers only



RE: [VOTE] Openness

2002-10-30 Thread Scott Sanders
 On Wednesday, October 30, 2002, at 10:19 AM, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
 
  VOTE 1:  would you like to make it possible for 
 non-committers to read
  this mail list thru a web archive?
 
   [X ] +1 yes, let's make it readable
   [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
   [ ] -1 no, let's keep it private
 
 
 - o -
 
 
  VOTE 2:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to 
  fully
  subscribe to this mail list?
 
   [ ] +1 yes, let's open it to everyone
   [X]  0 don't know/don't care
   [ ] -1 no, let's keep it for committers only
 

Scott


Re: [VOTE] Openness

2002-10-30 Thread James Taylor
  VOTE 1:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to read
  this mail list thru a web archive?
  
  
[X] +1 yes, let's make it readable
[ ]  0 don't know/don't care
[ ] -1 no, let's keep it private
  
  
  - o -
  
  
  VOTE 2:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to
  fully subscribe to this mail list?
  
  
[ ] +1 yes, let's open it to everyone
[ ]  0 don't know/don't care
[X] -1 no, let's keep it for committers 

Also:

On Wed, 2002-10-30 at 12:26, Daniel Rall wrote:

 __OR THOSE INVITED__

That is also my preference, but to avoid confusion my vote on 2 can be
counted as a -1




Re: [VOTE] Openness

2002-10-30 Thread Stephen McConnell

Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
VOTE 1:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to read 
this mail list thru a web archive?

 [X] +1 yes, let's make it readable
 [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
 [ ] -1 no, let's keep it private
   - o -
VOTE 2:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to 
fully subscribe to this mail list?

 [X] +1 yes, let's open it to everyone
 [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
 [ ] -1 no, let's keep it for committers only

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RE: [VOTE] Openness

2002-10-30 Thread Danny Angus
I agree:

  VOTE 1:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to read 
  this mail list thru a web archive?
 
   [X ] +1 yes, let's make it readable
   [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
   [ ] -1 no, let's keep it private
 
 
 - o -
 
 
  VOTE 2:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to fully 
  subscribe to this mail list?
 
   [ ] +1 yes, let's open it to everyone
   [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
   [X ] -1 no, let's keep it for committers only


Hmm.. re-submit someone else's ballot paper, thats the cut'n'paste generation 
for you. :)

d.



Re: [VOTE] Openness

2002-10-30 Thread Thom May
* Stefano Mazzocchi ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote :
 
 VOTE 1:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to read 
 this mail list thru a web archive?
 
  [ ] +1 yes, let's make it readable
  [X]  0 don't know/don't care
  [ ] -1 no, let's keep it private
 
 
- o -
 
 
 VOTE 2:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to fully 
 subscribe to this mail list?
 
  [ ] +1 yes, let's open it to everyone
  [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
  [X] -1 no, let's keep it for committers only
 
 
-Thom


Re: [VOTE] Openness

2002-10-30 Thread Costin Manolache

 VOTE 1:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to read 
 this mail list thru a web archive?
 
   [X] +1 yes, let's make it readable
   [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
   [ ] -1 no, let's keep it private
 
 
 - o -
 
 
 VOTE 2:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to fully 
 subscribe to this mail list?
 
   [X] +1 yes, let's open it to everyone
   [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
   [ ] -1 no, let's keep it for committers only

Costin



RE: [VOTE] Openness

2002-10-30 Thread Sander Striker
 VOTE 1:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to read 
 this mail list thru a web archive?
 
   [ ] +1 yes, let's make it readable
   [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
   [X] -1 no, let's keep it private
 
 VOTE 2:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to fully 
 subscribe to this mail list?
 
   [ ] +1 yes, let's open it to everyone
   [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
   [X] -1 no, let's keep it for committers only

Sander


Re: [VOTE] Openness

2002-10-30 Thread Sander Temme
 Please, allow me to restart the voting in order to make it easier to
 reach some consensus since it's hard to interpret the results of the
 previous one.

VOTE 1:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to read
this mail list thru a web archive?

  [x] +1 yes, let's make it readable
  [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
  [ ] -1 no, let's keep it private


VOTE 2:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to fully
subscribe to this mail list?

  [ ] +1 yes, let's open it to everyone
  [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
  [x] -1 no, let's keep it for committers only

S.

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Re: [VOTE] Openness

2002-10-30 Thread André Malo
* Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:

 VOTE 1:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to read
 this mail list thru a web archive?
 
   [ ] +1 yes, let's make it readable
   [x]  0 don't know/don't care
   [ ] -1 no, let's keep it private

 VOTE 2:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to fully
 subscribe to this mail list?
 
   [ ] +1 yes, let's open it to everyone
   [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
   [x] -1 no, let's keep it for committers only
   + invited...

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RE: [VOTE] Openness

2002-10-30 Thread Morgan Delagrange

--- James Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Why are you changing the vote here?
 
 I would like to vote but you have changed the
 direction of this vote, in a
 way that's really wierd.
 
 Currently, as i understand it, the last vote favored
 opening the list to
 invited experts, with a public archive. How would I
 vote that here?
 
  -- james

I think you want to vote +1 on the first issue and -1
on the second issue, with a subsequent vote later (if
it's even necessary) to extend access to invited
guests.  

The last vote was essentially a free-for-all write-in
with no clear result IMO.  You interpreted the last
vote as allowing a public archive, but one could
easily assert that the option 3, no public archive,
won because it received the most votes.  The contrary
interpretation is that the public archive opinion won
because options 1 and 2 both allow an archive and
received more combined votes than option 3.  It was an
unclear format.

- Morgan

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Re: [VOTE] Openness

2002-10-30 Thread Rich Bowen
On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:

 VOTE 1:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to read
 this mail list thru a web archive?

   [ ] +1 yes, let's make it readable
   [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
   [X] -1 no, let's keep it private


 - o -


 VOTE 2:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to fully
 subscribe to this mail list?

   [ ] +1 yes, let's open it to everyone
   [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
   [X] -1 no, let's keep it for committers only

After all, that was the charter of the list to begin with. If you want
something different, try Yahoo Groups.

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http://kenya.rcbowen.com/



RE: [VOTE] Openness

2002-10-30 Thread Waldhoff, Rodney
Title: RE: [VOTE] Openness





VOTE 1: would you like to make it possible for non-committers to read 
this mail list thru a web archive?


 [X] +1 yes, let's make it readable
 [ ] 0 don't know/don't care
 [ ] -1 no, let's keep it private


+1
 - o -



VOTE 2: would you like to make it possible for non-committers to fully 
subscribe to this mail list?


 [X] +1 yes, let's open it to everyone
 [ ] 0 don't know/don't care
 [ ] -1 no, let's keep it for committers only


+1
 - o -





Re: [VOTE] Openness

2002-10-30 Thread Erik Abele
 VOTE 1:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to read
 this mail list thru a web archive?

  [ ] +1 yes, let's make it readable
  [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
  [X] -1 no, let's keep it private


- o -


 VOTE 2:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to fully
 subscribe to this mail list?

  [ ] +1 yes, let's open it to everyone
  [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
  [X] -1 no, let's keep it for committers only
cheers,
erik


RE: [VOTE] Openness

2002-10-30 Thread James Cox

 
 --On Wednesday, October 30, 2002 6:19 PM +0100 Stefano Mazzocchi 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  VOTE 1:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to
  read this mail list thru a web archive?
 
[ ] +1 yes, let's make it readable
[ ]  0 don't know/don't care
[X] -1 no, let's keep it private
 
  VOTE 2:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to
  fully subscribe to this mail list?
 
[ ] +1 yes, let's open it to everyone
[ ]  0 don't know/don't care
[X] -1 no, let's keep it for committers only
 
+1


Re: [VOTE] Openness

2002-10-30 Thread Kurt Schrader

 VOTE 1:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to read
 this mail list thru a web archive?

   [x] +1 yes, let's make it readable
   [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
   [ ] -1 no, let's keep it private

 VOTE 2:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to fully
 subscribe to this mail list?

   [ ] +1 yes, let's open it to everyone
   [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
   [x] -1 no, let's keep it for committers only

-Kurt



Re: [VOTE] Openness

2002-10-30 Thread Roy T. Fielding
VOTE 1:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to
read this mail list thru a web archive?
  [X] +1 yes, let's make it readable
  [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
  [ ] -1 no, let's keep it private
VOTE 2:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to
fully subscribe to this mail list?
  [ ] +1 yes, let's open it to everyone
  [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
  [X] -1 no, let's keep it for committers only
and invitees (contributors).
Though I hesitate to say so, I need to make this perfectly clear.
I will unsubscribe from this list if non-contributors join.  I am
not going to take time away from my life for people who haven't
earned the right to be in this community.
Roy


Re: [VOTE] Openness

2002-10-30 Thread Peter Donald
On Thu, 31 Oct 2002 04:19, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
 VOTE 1:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to read
 this mail list thru a web archive?

   [ ] +1 yes, let's make it readable
   [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
   [+1] -1 no, let's keep it private

 VOTE 2:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to fully
 subscribe to this mail list?

   [ ] +1 yes, let's open it to everyone
   [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
   [+1] -1 no, let's keep it for committers only



Re: [VOTE] Openness

2002-10-30 Thread Elena Litani
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
 VOTE 1:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to read
 this mail list thru a web archive?
 
   [X] +1 yes, let's make it readable
   [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
   [ ] -1 no, let's keep it private
 
 VOTE 2:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to fully
 subscribe to this mail list?
 
   [ ] +1 yes, let's open it to everyone
   [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
   [X] -1 no, let's keep it for committers only

-- 
Elena Litani


Re: [VOTE] Openness

2002-10-30 Thread Leo Simons
 VOTE 1:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to read 
 this mail list thru a web archive?
 
   [X] +1 yes, let's make it readable
   [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
   [ ] -1 no, let's keep it private
 
 VOTE 2:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to fully 
 subscribe to this mail list?
 
   [ ] +1 yes, let's open it to everyone
   [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
   [X] -1 no, let's keep it for committers only

- Leo




Re: [VOTE] Openness

2002-10-30 Thread John Keyes


 VOTE 1:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to read
 this mail list thru a web archive?

   [X] +1 yes, let's make it readable
   [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
   [ ] -1 no, let's keep it private


 VOTE 2:  would you like to make it possible for non-committers to fully
 subscribe to this mail list?

   [ ] +1 yes, let's open it to everyone
   [ ]  0 don't know/don't care
   [X] -1 no, let's keep it for committers only

-John K