Developer Launch Date

2007-06-20 Thread Jeff Wang

Hello, I'm new to OpenMoko and I don't know if I miss the announcement of the 
developer launch date. Does anyone know the definite date?Thanks in advance.
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Re: Make error 139

2007-06-20 Thread Evgeny
On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 22:32 +0200, Zefanja wrote:
> Hi...I tried to run QEMU, but I get the foloowing error:
> 
> ( cd build/qemu ; arm-softmmu/qemu-system-arm \
>-M neo -m 130 -usb -show-cursor \
>-mtdblock openmoko/openmoko-flash.image \
>-kernel openmoko/openmoko-kernel.bin )
> Could not configure '/dev/rtc' to have a 1024 Hz timer. This is not a fatal
> error, but for better emulation accuracy either use a 2.6 host Linux 
> kernel or
Have you tried actually set '/dev/rtc' as suggested in firs error?
do it before running 'make run-qemu'
> type 'echo 1024 > /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq' as root.
> neo_gsm_switch: GSM disabled.
> /bin/sh: line 3:  6868 Segmentation fault  (core dumped) 
> arm-softmmu/qemu-system-arm -M neo -m 130 -usb -show-cursor -mtdblock 
> openmoko/openmoko-flash.image -kernel openmoko/openmoko-kernel.bin
> make: *** [run-qemu] Fehler 139
> 
> 
> Can anyone help me? I know, that this can be a problem with the version 
> of gcc. Is it so?
Don't think so, in this case it was complain much earlier (on
compilation stage)
> 
> Stephan
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Make error 139

2007-06-20 Thread Zefanja

Hi...I tried to run QEMU, but I get the foloowing error:

( cd build/qemu ; arm-softmmu/qemu-system-arm \
  -M neo -m 130 -usb -show-cursor \
  -mtdblock openmoko/openmoko-flash.image \
  -kernel openmoko/openmoko-kernel.bin )
Could not configure '/dev/rtc' to have a 1024 Hz timer. This is not a fatal
error, but for better emulation accuracy either use a 2.6 host Linux 
kernel or

type 'echo 1024 > /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq' as root.
neo_gsm_switch: GSM disabled.
/bin/sh: line 3:  6868 Segmentation fault  (core dumped) 
arm-softmmu/qemu-system-arm -M neo -m 130 -usb -show-cursor -mtdblock 
openmoko/openmoko-flash.image -kernel openmoko/openmoko-kernel.bin

make: *** [run-qemu] Fehler 139


Can anyone help me? I know, that this can be a problem with the version 
of gcc. Is it so?


Stephan

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Re: rough seas

2007-06-20 Thread Frank Coenen

Sean, Herald and Mickey and all the other dev's who's name I can't remember:
Your doing a great job!

"In less than a week, we will update you about what's going on at FIC/
OpenMoko, the status of GTA01/02, and our plans for selling these neos."
I presume many readers will put this date& time in their calendars... ;-)

"So please wish us luck. We're just about at the tipping point."
One's again: Good luck and may the roadsi ahead of you be a lot smoother.
:-)
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Re: rough seas

2007-06-20 Thread Rodolphe Ortalo
Le jeudi 21 juin 2007 à 00:15 +0800, Sean Moss-Pultz a écrit :

> So please wish us luck. We're just about at the tipping point.

At your orders, captain.

Rodolphe



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Re:rough seas

2007-06-20 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Sean Moss-Pultz writes:
>
>Mickey and Harald blogged a bit about what's happening over here but  
>I know it's not in the level of detail that you all are looking for.  
>In less than a week, we will update you about what's going on at FIC/ 
>OpenMoko, the status of GTA01/02, and our plans for selling these neos.

Thanks -- looking forward to it!

>So please wish us luck. We're just about at the tipping point.

Consider it wished!

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Re: New wishlist item: Side-mounted touch strip sensor

2007-06-20 Thread michael

On Wed, 20 Jun 2007, Ian Stirling wrote:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 for non-invasive prototyping, there is also the usb port.



That's really quite annoying to use though - as anything more than -1th 
generation prototype.
You need external power, a plug that makes the phone unusable as an actual 
portable phone  when plugged in, and a seperate unit.





as i said, it's for prototyping, and for doing it w/out opening the phone. i'm
not claiming anything else.

here's a simple CHEAP USB AVR development board. one of the demonstration
programs emulates a mouse; it would be so simple to modify that to do a slider
interface, and no drivers to cross-compile. plenty of undedicated IO pins to
interface to slider technology of your choice. hard to beat at $30:
http://atmel.com/dyn/products/tools_card.asp?tool_id=3879

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rough seas

2007-06-20 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz

Dear Community!

Mickey and Harald blogged a bit about what's happening over here but  
I know it's not in the level of detail that you all are looking for.  
In less than a week, we will update you about what's going on at FIC/ 
OpenMoko, the status of GTA01/02, and our plans for selling these neos.


I'm really sorry such a long silence on my end. Internally, I've been  
involved in changes that are so big and so tiring, that I really  
don't fall asleep anymore. I just go home and pass out. Quite often  
still in my work cloths.


Yesterday was a holiday in Taiwan and I was finally able to get  
caught up with the messages from this list. There were some  
fascinating discussions these past few weeks! Thank you so much for  
your continued support in spite of our delays. We're really trying  
our hearts out here to get these neo's shipping.


All these changes, while painfully exhausting, are for the better. As  
the ancient proverb goes, "A smooth sea never made a skilled  
mariner." Once complete, we'll be in a great position. I will tell  
you more details soon.


So please wish us luck. We're just about at the tipping point.

-Sean




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Some Application Thoughts - What do you think?

2007-06-20 Thread openmokolist . 50 . minime
Hi list,

I recently added two ideas/projects to the wiki.
I want to raise your attention and start a discussion about what you
think. I also want to encourage you contributing your ideas to the wiki.

1. Bluetooth powered Multi-SIM support
( http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Bluetooth_powered_Multi-SIM_support )
As the Neo1971 does not come with dual-SIM support this could be solved
by joining your old bluetooth-enabled mobile to your OpenMoko-phone.

Let SIM card A be in your OpenMoko-phone and SIM card B in your old mobile:
Incoming call on SIM card B - the OpenMoko-phone acts as a
headset(Bluetooth Headset profile)
Calling out via SIM card B - the OpenMoko-phone acts again as a headset
Same for Short Messages/MMS/Internet

This way you'd have your old phone switched silent and connected to your
OpenMoko-phone that handles all the calls and one can select which SIM
card to use.
Advantage: No 'switching' between cards
Disadvantage: Second mobile needs to be in range(e.g. handbag) and
charged every once in a while.

2. Voice Mailbox
( http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Voice_Mailbox )
On-Phone voice mailbox that records calls on the phone and retrieves
voice messages from your mobile service provider's voice mailbox and
saves them locally. Can act profile-dependent.


tim/minime

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Re: New wishlist item: Side-mounted touch strip sensor

2007-06-20 Thread Ian Stirling

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

for non-invasive prototyping, there is also the usb port.



That's really quite annoying to use though - as anything more than -1th 
generation prototype.
You need external power, a plug that makes the phone unusable as an 
actual portable phone  when plugged in, and a seperate unit.



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Re: New wishlist item: Side-mounted touch strip sensor

2007-06-20 Thread Piotr Duda

well, i didn't like 'touch strip/pad' idea at first, but maybe it can be used 
for some kind of poor
multi-touch feature ;-) hold one finger in some point of the screen and slide 
with another finger on
touch strip and screen rotates/images zoom in/mp3 rewinds... a key for 
usability of this idea would
be a position of the touch strip on the Neo...
just a thought... :-)

P.

Joe Friedrichsen pisze:
[..]
> 
> Futuristic for some countries :-)
> 
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