Complete stack reload with Neo Base
I plan to buy a Neo Base but I just want to know if it's possible to upgrade and reload the OpenMoko stack (kernel and all around) without Neo Advanced ? Yves Mahé begin:vcard fn:Yves MAHE n:MAHE;Yves org:ZINDEP adr:;;25 rue de l'ancienne Mairie;BOURGBARRE;;35230;France email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;work:08 73 85 77 64 tel;cell:06 80 15 95 25 url:http://zindep.com version:2.1 end:vcard ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: front page of digg!!!!!!
On 29/06/07, Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rather than being relegated to the contents section of iphone items, the openmoko is on the front page of digg.com (very big user-controlled tech news site for those that aren't aware) http://digg.com/linux_unix/OpenMoko_the_Anti_iPhone get there now and digg it up, let's generate some interest! Too bad it's down :( -- Vincent ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Oceans
Dear Sean Everyone @ OpenMoko, Congratulations to you all for the great progress. I also would like to throw in a slightly technical question: I plan to buy the Advanced version of the GTA01 to get the debug board. Will it be possible to use this same debug board with the GTA02, so one only has to buy the basic version of it, or will it have a different debug board or connector? Best Regards and congratulations again, Gergely On 6/27/07, Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Complete stack reload with Neo Base
You only need the debug board if you mange to corrupt the bootloader on the device. For upgrading the bootloader, kernel and applications, look for USB DFU on the wiki. On 6/29/07, Yves MAHE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I plan to buy a Neo Base but I just want to know if it's possible to upgrade and reload the OpenMoko stack (kernel and all around) without Neo Advanced ? Yves Mahé ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
The troubles your having
Reading the announcement from herald on the planet homepage made me sad, and I am sorry that your having such troubles. I do wonder though that if you are having such trouble purchasing items why not buy them from China? Since you are producing the product here maybe it would be a good idea to have an office here as well. I live here in taiwans sister city, Xiamen and I can assure you not only does China support e commerce, but you can buy anything that you could ever want or need here even things not available on other markets yet. All this considering Xiamen is one of chinas main shipping hubs. Though it is a bit strange to what I am accustomed to, all of the tech/computer related hardware is located at one huge area called computer city. Sadly they all close around 6 or 7pm which is strange considering most places stay open much later but everything you need is right there. Its really hard to believe that taiwan is such a pain when purchasing something when so many things are made there. In China its really very simple. Of course this may already be after the fact, but anyway in the future, if such problems arise consider purchasing from China instead by order or even a short trip, soon we will have a very fast shuttle boat between Xiamen and Taiwan. Hope I can be of some help. Jeff ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[OpenMoko][FIC] Neo1973 - sample ?
Hello Sean, I'm currently working in the DVB-H mobile TV field and should be happy to contribute to OpenMoko to deliver a multimedia application. I read the message you dropped the 20th of January 2007. A sample of it is below: 2007-03-11 Phase 1: Official Developer Launch We will sell the Neo1973 direct from openmoko.com for US$350 plus shipping. Sales and orders will be worldwide. We are specifically targeting open source community developers. How and where can I buy a Neo1973 ?, I suppose I should be trusted as official developper, what's the process ? Thank you for your feedback! and Vive OpenMoko! Mickaël ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Oceans
Le jeudi 28 juin 2007 à 05:31 +0800, Sean Moss-Pultz a écrit : Dear Community, Andre Gide once said, Man cannot discover new oceans unless he has the courage to lose sight of the shore. [...] OK, straight right into the sea then captain. From what I understood of 2nd officer Harald, that leads us right to the east it seems (from my point of view at least)... Well, anyway, it seems we'll need a new application for Phase-1: a compass. (Might be a little more tricky than the calculator...;-) Rodolphe ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OpenMoko][FIC] Neo1973 - sample ?
The GTA01 version will go on sale at www.openmoko.com on July 9th. Everyone can order one if he/ she wishes to do so. Though it is primarily meant for developers, (because of lack of software, not very stable and a limited supply of neo's) there are no criteria for who is and isn't a developer. = For detailes, please see the New Oceans post from Sean: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/announce/2007-June/13.html On 6/29/07, Mickaël Toumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Sean, I'm currently working in the DVB-H mobile TV field and should be happy to contribute to OpenMoko to deliver a multimedia application. I read the message you dropped the 20th of January 2007. A sample of it is below: 2007-03-11 Phase 1: Official Developer Launch We will sell the Neo1973 direct from openmoko.com for US$350 plus shipping. Sales and orders will be worldwide. We are specifically targeting open source community developers. How and where can I buy a Neo1973 ?, I suppose I should be trusted as official developper, what's the process ? Thank you for your feedback! and Vive OpenMoko! Mickaël ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OpenMoko][FIC] Neo1973 - sample ?
On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 12:03:24 +0200 Mickaël Toumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Sean, I'm currently working in the DVB-H mobile TV field and should be happy to contribute to OpenMoko to deliver a multimedia application. I read the message you dropped the 20th of January 2007. A sample of it is below: 2007-03-11 Phase 1: Official Developer Launch We will sell the Neo1973 direct from openmoko.com for US$350 plus shipping. Sales and orders will be worldwide. We are specifically targeting open source community developers. How and where can I buy a Neo1973 ?, I suppose I should be trusted as official developper, what's the process ? Thank you for your feedback! and Vive OpenMoko! Mickaël ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community 9th of July on http://openmoko.com/, anyone can order one but numbers are low and they will only be useful to a dev at this stage. See http://openmoko.com/ for more info. -- Ewan Marshall (ewanm89) Geek by nature, Linux by choice. signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Oceans
On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 20:04:36 +0200 Rodolphe Ortalo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le jeudi 28 juin 2007 à 05:31 +0800, Sean Moss-Pultz a écrit : Dear Community, Andre Gide once said, Man cannot discover new oceans unless he has the courage to lose sight of the shore. [...] OK, straight right into the sea then captain. From what I understood of 2nd officer Harald, that leads us right to the east it seems (from my point of view at least)... Well, anyway, it seems we'll need a new application for Phase-1: a compass. (Might be a little more tricky than the calculator...;-) Rodolphe ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community GPS should help though ;) -- Ewan Marshall (ewanm89) Geek by nature, Linux by choice. signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Oceans
Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: snip We've had a particularly challenging time trying to setup the online infrastructure and figure out how to ship these phones. Sometime later today or early tomorrow we're going to make another announcement asking for some advice. Leaping in before being asked, and perhaps not exactly what you're announcing. On store stock. I'd like to see the basic, advanced, but also accessories. Something like: Basic $300 Advanced $450 Debug Board $120 (inc lunchbox) Battery $20 Guitar Pick $5 Case (black/silver, front and back) $20 Replacement screen $120 Pouch - $15 I personally would also like to see Motherboard alone - $150 GPS antenna - $20 Internal subframe - $20 This is both for cases where you damage your neo in some manner that is clearly not covered by any warranty, and for the cases where you might like to use the Neo for something it is clearly not suited for in its existing case. For example, glue a couple of webcams a USB hub, wifi, into a waterproof container, and do stuff with it. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Guitar Tuner
I noticed Guitar Tuner is in the Application list on the wiki.openmoko.org http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Applications. Is this app going to be developed by the core developers or is this an idea for the community to develop?Jeff _ Make every IM count. Download Windows Live Messenger and join the i’m Initiative now. It’s free. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGWL_June07___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Oceans
On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 22:05:21 +0100 Ian Stirling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: snip We've had a particularly challenging time trying to setup the online infrastructure and figure out how to ship these phones. Sometime later today or early tomorrow we're going to make another announcement asking for some advice. Leaping in before being asked, and perhaps not exactly what you're announcing. On store stock. I'd like to see the basic, advanced, but also accessories. Something like: Basic $300 Advanced $450 Debug Board $120 (inc lunchbox) Battery $20 Guitar Pick $5 Case (black/silver, front and back) $20 Replacement screen $120 Pouch - $15 I personally would also like to see Motherboard alone - $150 GPS antenna - $20 Internal subframe - $20 This is both for cases where you damage your neo in some manner that is clearly not covered by any warranty, and for the cases where you might like to use the Neo for something it is clearly not suited for in its existing case. For example, glue a couple of webcams a USB hub, wifi, into a waterproof container, and do stuff with it. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Agreed, it would be good for hardware hacking. -- Ewan Marshall (ewanm89) Geek by nature, Linux by choice. signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Guitar Tuner
Whoever gets to it first -- if left up to the core developers, everything more critical than it gets precedence. If somebody from the community (say, a guitar player) decides to take the project and develop it, we'll get the tuner all the sooner. (I'm a poet and didn't even realize it!) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Guitar Tuner
Ryan Prior schrieb: Whoever gets to it first -- if left up to the core developers, everything more critical than it gets precedence. If somebody from the community (say, a guitar player) decides to take the project and develop it, we'll get the tuner all the sooner. (I'm a poet and didn't even realize it!) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community What is the easiest way to get information about the status of some actual program developement for the normal user? (what applications are developped and what is the status of the project, perhaps some screenshots) Is it the Wiki? (seems to me not so up to date) Or is it the projects site or should I try testing the whole thing with qemu? Regards, Denis ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Graphics Accelerator needs matching joystick and keys
Hi there, First of all I must say that I'm happy to hear that the project is growing and that I will be able to buy an open phone in October. I also take the opportunity to ask: will there be an Europen sales point or representative? Wouldn't that represent an economical advantage for both company and customers? Now for my real question, Since GTA02 (AKA: The Mass Market Neo 1973) will have an SMedia 3362 Graphics Accelerator, why not make full use of it? Why deny possibilities? I think there is a huge benefict in addind a joystick and keypad to the OpenMoko. This would allow users to play old classics in emulators; run new (java) games and assign keyboard shortcuts. I don't think that adding a joystick and a keypad is a big technological endeauvour :-) Is there any reason for not having them? Thanks ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re:Graphics Accelerator needs matching joystick and keys
Kenshin writes: I think there is a huge benefict in addind a joystick and keypad to the OpenMoko. This would allow users to play old classics in emulators; run new (java) games and assign keyboard shortcuts. I don't think that adding a joystick and a keypad is a big technological endeauvour :-) Is there any reason for not having them? Space. Not everybody wants them (I don't, for instance), and they take up room. Hopefully FIC will move in that direction with some of their future devices -- but hopefully they won't abandon those of us who don't want it. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re:Graphics Accelerator needs matching joystick and keys
There's also the possibility of adding some kind of attachment to a specially designed battery or backpack which could add this ability by interfacing with the I2C or SPI ports available. --Tim On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 16:43, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: Kenshin writes: I think there is a huge benefict in addind a joystick and keypad to the OpenMoko. This would allow users to play old classics in emulators; run new (java) games and assign keyboard shortcuts. I don't think that adding a joystick and a keypad is a big technological endeauvour :-) Is there any reason for not having them? Space. Not everybody wants them (I don't, for instance), and they take up room. Hopefully FIC will move in that direction with some of their future devices -- but hopefully they won't abandon those of us who don't want it. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Graphics Accelerator needs matching joystick and keys
Someone has already mentioned on this list about using the Wii Nunchuck. Apparently it will connect to the I2C fairly easily. Search the archives. -Steven On 6/29/07, Tim Newsom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's also the possibility of adding some kind of attachment to a specially designed battery or backpack which could add this ability by interfacing with the I2C or SPI ports available. --Tim On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 16:43, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: Kenshin writes: I think there is a huge benefict in addind a joystick and keypad to the OpenMoko. This would allow users to play old classics in emulators; run new (java) games and assign keyboard shortcuts. I don't think that adding a joystick and a keypad is a big technological endeauvour :-) Is there any reason for not having them? Space. Not everybody wants them (I don't, for instance), and they take up room. Hopefully FIC will move in that direction with some of their future devices -- but hopefully they won't abandon those of us who don't want it. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Graphics Accelerator needs matching joystick and keys
Hehe, I know that.. I was mentioning it for the benefit of the previous person who was asking about joysticks. --Tim On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 19:22, Steven ** wrote: Someone has already mentioned on this list about using the Wii Nunchuck. Apparently it will connect to the I2C fairly easily. Search the archives. -Steven ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Oceans
On Jun 28, 2007, at 4:57 PM, Jeff Andros wrote: Anyways, that news (openmoko.com) was really worth the wait. Despite some of the grumblers on the list, there are plenty of us who understand how development goes, and how Mr. Murphy always seems to be doing backflips through your project. Thanks for all your hard work And thank you for such great support! Sean ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Oceans
I'd also like to say thank you! Thank you for all the hard work you've done. I'm really looking forward getting my first open phone soon. Regards, Denis ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
