PDA/portable keyboard that can be used with Neo1973
Hello All, Does anyone have any recommendations on keyboards that can be used with the Neo1973. bluetooth, USB, etc. I have seen some online, but most of them seems to be compatible with one or other type of PDA, so I am guessing a universal one would be better for Neo1973 .. Thanks -- Pranav -- http://pd.dnsalias.org ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: PDA/portable keyboard that can be used with Neo1973
check this: http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/8193/ :) 2007/7/9, Pranav Desai [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello All, Does anyone have any recommendations on keyboards that can be used with the Neo1973. bluetooth, USB, etc. I have seen some online, but most of them seems to be compatible with one or other type of PDA, so I am guessing a universal one would be better for Neo1973 .. Thanks -- Pranav -- http://pd.dnsalias.org ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Denis Kot denis?jabber.org.by ICQ: 13680126 Mobil: +375 29 6-1234-78 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Get them while they're still hot!
Quoting Lucas Maneos on 07/09/2007 01:28 AM UTC: Today is the day that we've all been waiting for: We can finally take your order for the world's first freed phone. First of all, congratulations and thanks for all the hard work you guys put into making this happen! I'm really itching to order an Advanced, but I've got a couple of questions: - I'm wary of entering credit card details on a site with a self-signed SSL certificate without verification. You may already know this, but you can get free-beer signed certificates from CAcert (http://www.cacert.org/) in minutes with a minimal amount of hassle. Failing that, could you at least post the certificate's fingerprints in another medium (PGP-signed to this list would be great for example)? - Shipping to Europe: is there any info on how long the various options (WORLDWIDE_EXPEDITED/SAVER/WORLDWIDE_EXPRESS) take? There's not much difference in the cost, but as I'll be away in GUADEC all next week I'd like to pick an option that won't have the package bounce back to FIC because I'm not here to collect it. (Hey, I don't suppose you can deliver some Neos to GUADEC?) One guess is that these options refer to shipping options available from UPS: http://www.ups.com/content/us/en/shipping/time/service/expedited.html http://www.ups.com/content/us/en/shipping/time/service/worldwide_saver.html http://www.ups.com/content/us/en/shipping/time/service/express.html Can anyone confirm? -- - xkr47 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Color choice, etc.
Quoting Joe Pfeiffer on 07/08/2007 08:55 PM UTC: I'm one of the ones getting a blank page response -- checking the headers, I got an OK (200), but a 0-length message, back... As Jae Stutzman already reported in the Shop is open thread, you need to enter the state in the two CAPITAL letter version. Hope they get this fixed :P -- - xkr47 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OPENMOKO.COM IS UP
Quoting Jonas Berlin on 07/08/2007 08:02 PM UTC: Quoting Michael 'Mickey' Lauer on 07/08/2007 07:09 PM UTC: The new .COM site is up! http://www.openmoko.com Well spotted... and quick, too! :) Unfortunately, the store is closed. Hopefully it will open soon. Team is still working on the site, please don't hammer. Thanks! Congratulations Openmoko team!! You have done it! One comment - my mail server has greylist filtering enabled and it seems the confirmation mail got stuck - the mail server logs revealed that something was inbound immediately after purchase but it was temporarily rejected because of the way greylisting works.. (I placed my order around 23:58 UTC on 2007-07-09.) Hope I'll be getting the phones anyway :) Best regards, xkr47 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Fwd: Get them while they're still hot!
Congratulations! I can't wait to have one in my hand! :-) Andreas 2007/7/8, Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dear Community! Today is the day that we've all been waiting for: We can finally take your order for the world's first freed phone. Neos are waiting in customs just outside our factory in SuZhou. Early this week, they will start their journey to FIC America in Fremont, California. We're sending them by air so they should arrive really fast. (We'll update you as soon as we know more tracking information.) Get them while they're still hot ;-) http://www.openmoko.com Right now we only have the credit card payment option in place. Later this week we should be able to take wire transfers. Now, Free Your Phone. -OpenMoko / FIC ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Andreas -- Andreas ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Annoying but inevitable
On Sunday 08 July 2007 15:49:31 Attila Csipa wrote: What I find odd is that nobody considers that some users would WILLINGLY have/watch ads on their phone, depending on their plan, in exchange for better rates, rewards, whatever. You don't have to eliminate the ads, you can also eliminate the reasons to eliminate ads :) Sure there might be some of those. Heck I might submit to that. But the problem is that you can't ensure that people actually watch the ads. They could even download them, then simply not display them with a small patch! pgps4dW2mZda8.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OPENMOKO.COM IS UP
One comment - my mail server has greylist filtering enabled and it seems the confirmation mail got stuck - the mail server logs revealed that something was inbound immediately after purchase but it was temporarily rejected because of the way greylisting works.. (I placed my order around 23:58 UTC on 2007-07-09.) Hope I'll be getting the phones anyway :) I also have greylisting enabled but I was able to receive confirmation mail with no problem at all. regards cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB host question
On Sunday 08 July 2007 23:54:23 Don Park wrote: The netgear WGT634U access point ran linux and had USB host mode. This provided a gigantic amount of usability and expandability. Hard drives and wifi radios could hang off the access point. Has anyone tried hanging a USB wifi radio off of the neo1973? It would be bulky but it would give wifi access from the phone to those who are looking for it. Neo doesn't provide power on the USB port. So unless you add some by means of power injector or powered hub it won't work. It's been discussed to death earlier this year ;9 pgp4xxwX6CylU.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
combined shopping/shipping to the Netherlands
Dear Listers! It almost slipped my mind that today it already IS the 9 of Juli. Checked the website and did not find it offline, as before. Everything seems to work out fine, congratulations Sean and the team! I guess there are quite a few Dutch subscribers to the list. Does anyone want to share in an order? Maybe exchanging phone numbers or creating a page in the wiki would be easiest? Best regards, Boudewijn (+31654397846) Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/ ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Nederlanders! Openmoko needs more attention
Now, I've opened a topic on the Openmoko at Tweakers.net again. Placed another post to that board. If they close that one too as spam, I don't care anymore for their 'Gathering of Tweakers'. If they can't see the awesomeness of this device, then I can't be bothered posting there. :P http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_messages/1231380 :) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Annoying but inevitable
On Monday 09 July 2007 09:36, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: What I find odd is that nobody considers that some users would WILLINGLY have/watch ads on their phone, depending on their plan, in exchange for better rates, rewards, whatever. You don't have to eliminate the ads, you can also eliminate the reasons to eliminate ads :) Sure there might be some of those. Heck I might submit to that. But the problem is that you can't ensure that people actually watch the ads. They could even download them, then simply not display them with a small patch! You've got a point there, but that is a different issue altogether - I'm talking about if that would happen if the ads were actually useful ? I for example routinely block flash and large banner ads, but I generally keep most of the google ads because sometimes they actually contain something I'm interested in. So IMHO the question is if the ads can get targeted and interesting enough so people would actually watch them (or at least keep those who break their own agreements a minority). ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Is it developer-user ready?
Hi List. I'm new around here so please forgive me if this is the wrong list to inquire. I need a new phone and am almost at the point of ordering a Nea1973 now. (Hooray to you \o/) As a Linux userspace programmer, I'm really looking forward to finally write my own mobile phone programs. I've got experience with Garnet OS programming and always thought about getting a Treo650 back then but didn't have the cash. Still, since this is going to be a _replacement_ I'd really love to have two things possible: 1) Making and receiving calls (doh) 2) Sending and receiving short messages. I've read on the gsmd-devel list that this is being worked on. I've no problems with creating my own user interface to this. (probably will do that anyway) 3) A phone book to store my contacts in would be nice, but for now a lack of that wouldn't be a showstopper to me. Those things are everything I've ever used on a mobile phone since the applications available were never useful to me. If I could write my own apps, this would definately change (good bye trusty old Palm V). Any insights on the above would be great. Don't have to have fancy UI or anything, just that functionality is there to use from my own programs is enough. On that same note, a step-by-step guide on setting up a development environment on my self-baked Linux system would be nice, too. For now what I found is this: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenMoko which doesn't make much sense to me. Will it make sense once I installed bitbake and the rest of the software? Thank you for your time, Benjamin pgpyo1SKtTh0v.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Nederlanders! Openmoko needs more attention
On 09/07/07, Marcel de Jong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, I've opened a topic on the Openmoko at Tweakers.net again. Placed another post to that board. If they close that one too as spam, I don't care anymore for their 'Gathering of Tweakers'. If they can't see the awesomeness of this device, then I can't be bothered posting there. :P /me creates an account. http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_messages/1231380 :) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Vincent ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Store info - shipping costs to Germany
FYI, shipping to Germany: Neo BaseNeo Advance 1x 2x 3x 4x1x 2x WORLDWIDE_EXPEDITED $71.85 $83.14 $94.15 $114.52 $104.99 $134.16 SAVER $75.19 $88.25 $100.73 $118.89 $112.08 $139.04 WORLDWIDE_EXPRESS $77.46 $90.23 $103.00 $121.73 $114.35 $142.16 WORLDWIDE_EXPRESS_PLUS $122.86 $135.63 $148.40 $167.13 $159.75 $187.56 Looks like shipping from within the EU (as promised) didn't happen yet. Will it be in place by October? Seems like worldwide_express is the best option for most since it's not much more expensive than the cheaper options but probably up to 2 days faster. Regards, -Sven Neuhaus ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pictures
Mario Wewer wrote: Are there any pictures of the phone from the back side and from the top?! I can only find pictures from the front and the down-side... Look here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lorphos/512691305/ The bottom looks identical. There is no space for a stylus. -Sven ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Store info - shipping costs to Germany
On Monday 09 July 2007 10:39, Sven Neuhaus wrote: FYI, shipping to Germany: Neo BaseNeo Advance 1x 2x 3x 4x1x 2x WORLDWIDE_EXPEDITED $71.85 $83.14 $94.15 $114.52 $104.99 $134.16 SAVER $75.19 $88.25 $100.73 $118.89 $112.08 $139.04 WORLDWIDE_EXPRESS $77.46 $90.23 $103.00 $121.73 $114.35 $142.16 WORLDWIDE_EXPRESS_PLUS $122.86 $135.63 $148.40 $167.13 $159.75 $187.56 Looks like shipping from within the EU (as promised) didn't happen yet. Will it be in place by October? Similar prices for shipping to UK. I was going to get the Advance now and the GTA02 in October, but with these shipping prices and maybe import duties on top I'll have to rethink. Will the promised shipping from within the EU happen any time soon? Seems like worldwide_express is the best option for most since it's not much more expensive than the cheaper options but probably up to 2 days faster. Regards, -Sven Neuhaus ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Shipping costs
I'm shocked! I wanted to purchase neo to Belarus - 140 bucks for shipping, that's a half of the device price!!! Western Europe is about 90. What's going on, WHY ??? Are there any plans to reduce shipping costs for the 1st generation of neo in the next future? I'd appreciate any quotes on that. Regards! ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Store info - shipping costs to Germany
That's a point I hope, too! When this will happen soon - latest in October with the public-release (because Wifi is a must have for me) - we won't have to group-order the phone... (sorry Al - my fault) - Original Message - From: Al Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Montag, 9. Juli 2007 12.37 Uhr (GMT+0100) Europe/Berlin Subject: Re: Store info - shipping costs to Germany On Monday 09 July 2007 10:39, Sven Neuhaus wrote: FYI, shipping to Germany: Neo BaseNeo Advance 1x 2x 3x 4x1x 2x WORLDWIDE_EXPEDITED $71.85 $83.14 $94.15 $114.52 $104.99 $134.16 SAVER $75.19 $88.25 $100.73 $118.89 $112.08 $139.04 WORLDWIDE_EXPRESS $77.46 $90.23 $103.00 $121.73 $114.35 $142.16 WORLDWIDE_EXPRESS_PLUS $122.86 $135.63 $148.40 $167.13 $159.75 $187.56 Looks like shipping from within the EU (as promised) didn't happen yet. Will it be in place by October? Similar prices for shipping to UK. I was going to get the Advance now and the GTA02 in October, but with these shipping prices and maybe import duties on top I'll have to rethink. Will the promised shipping from within the EU happen any time soon? Seems like worldwide_express is the best option for most since it's not much more expensive than the cheaper options but probably up to 2 days faster. Regards, -Sven Neuhaus ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OPENMOKO.COM IS UP
BTW, has anyone of you received confirmation (other than from RT) from OpenMoko that your request is being processed? I did not and neither are there any operations on my credit card from OpenMoko shop. I guess there are going to be some delays in shipping... cheers cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 Board only option in October?
Hello, I am also very interested in this potential option. __ Donnie Cass, John P wrote: Sean and team - congratulations on getting the site up. I have a question before I go ahead and order my Neo - there was an earlier discussion about the possibility of getting a GTA02 board in October so we can upgrade our Neos to 02 without having to buy a whole new phone (call it the Philosopher's Neo). Sean - have you had a chance to confirm that there will be a GTA02 board only option available in October? It would be great to be able to buy a Neo now and get started freeing phones with confidence that we can get hold of Wifi soon without having to buy a whole phone. It would be nice if the total cost came in around the price of a GTA02... ;-) http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-July/006108.html John ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Store info - shipping costs to Germany
On Monday 09 July 2007 11:39, Sven Neuhaus wrote: Looks like shipping from within the EU (as promised) didn't happen yet. Will it be in place by October? I ot an earlier reply that indicated local distribution will be probably available from phase 2 (which would be october if on schedule). Really sad, with the current shipping options and associated duties/taxes the P1 base Neo would cost me a little over 500 euros to get (the advanced being close to 700), which is simply too much for me no matter how bad I want it :( ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
GNU GPL license of OpenEinstein
News from Newtontalk, www.newtontalk.net: During the Worldwide Newton Conference in Tokyo yesterday, it was announced that Einstein was open sourced under the GNU GPL license. Einstein is an emulator for the Apple Newton, the grandaddy of PDAs. Ignore what you've heard about its performance; later Newton models have reportedly the best handwriting recognition available. The slides are available here: http://kallisys.com/files/newton/Einstein/EinsteinWWNC2007Slides.pdf You can download the source code right here: http://code.google.com/p/einstein/ The binaries are available for MacOS X: http://einstein.googlecode.com/files/EinsteinPlatform2007.7-MacOS_X.zip Moreover, having Einstein open source already proved extremely fruitful. Within two days, there was a working Cygwin/X11 port running on Tablet PCs and a working Cygwin/Native GUI (with FLTK) port running the next day. The Cygwin/X11 patches have been committed to the subversion repository (the compilation needs to be tested) and others are expected to produce a version compiled with Visual C++ soon. There's also a cross-platform graphical toolkit (like Qt) that allow one to build NewtonScript-based applications running on MacOS X, GTK, Hildon (Nokia Internet Tablets) and of course the Newton. Doug Parker Orlando FL ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Unable to place order right now
Is there a technical problem on the shop website or is it just world domination proceeding as usual? Rodolphe (not-so-late huh?) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OPENMOKO.COM IS UP
Krzysztof Kajkowski wrote: I also have greylisting enabled but I was able to receive confirmation mail with no problem at all. I have greylisting enabled too, and I too received the autoreply message. In fact, I received it within a few seconds of placing my order, which is strange, since greylisting should have delayed it for at least 15-30 minutes (but perhaps the sending server was already whitelisted because I'm subscribed to the list). -myk ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Web Shop Site Problem
Hi, I've been having problems with the shopping site since it went online. From https://direct.openmoko.com/, I would order the device and would be redirected to a blank page https://direct.openmoko.com/cgi-bin/order.cgi . I've tried it on Firefox on linux, then on Windows and finally *shudders* Internet Explorer on Windows. I'm both glad and disappointed to report that it worked on neither. There was a post about someone working on it, but no details. Apparently some have been able to order. My concern is that our (several people have posted having the same experience) problem isn't the one being worked on since no one has officially acknowledged it. Could someone set our minds at ease by letting us know that they're aware of this problem? If details of the problem were made known, the community might even be able to help. I've been silently waiting in the sidelines for this very moment so I hope it's understandable that as soon as the word came out, all that pent-up emotion just came bubbling out into expectancy. I'm just worrying they might run out of devices. -- Richi ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Get them while they're still hot!
I wonder if I can buy one in SuZhou? I live in SuZhou Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: Dear Community! Today is the day that we've all been waiting for: We can finally take your order for the world's first freed phone. Neos are waiting in customs just outside our factory in SuZhou. Early this week, they will start their journey to FIC America in Fremont, California. We're sending them by air so they should arrive really fast. (We'll update you as soon as we know more tracking information.) Get them while they're still hot ;-) http://www.openmoko.com Right now we only have the credit card payment option in place. Later this week we should be able to take wire transfers. Now, Free Your Phone. -OpenMoko / FIC ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Store info - shipping costs, credit card support
Also I have a friend sitting now in hong kong and willing to buy this phone for me, but shipping cost is 72$ to HK... 2007/7/9, Attila Csipa [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sunday 08 July 2007 22:21:56 Eric van Horssen wrote: Shipping the normal edition to the Netherlands: WORLDWIDE_EXPEDITED $71.85 USD $371.85 USD Apparently Europe is pretty bad regarding shipping costs. Most EU countries seem to be 70-100$ for the basic edition, and even compared to that I'm in a group who would have to pay at least 150 USD (!!!) for shipping to Europe. That's a bit disappointing to say the least :( For 2 Neos it's cheaper to fly to the States and pick them up personally than have them shipped here :) :( ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Denis Kot denis?jabber.org.by ICQ: 13680126 Mobil: +375 29 6-1234-78 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko site off-line?
On Jul 9, 2007, at 2:52 PM, Marco Miani wrote: maybe it's slashdotted good thing :-) Please bear with us. We're doing our best to cope with the load and the shopping cart issues that came up. Thanks all you guys for making everyone in FIC extremely excited today! -Sean ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Oceans
On 7/1/07, Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/28/07, Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For phase 1 the shipping costs might be a bit high. Perhaps something like US$40 for Australia. For phase 2 we're hoping to get more local distributors. My shipping options are US$81 or US$87 for Australia for the Neo Base and around US$117 for the Advanced - this seems a bit excessive, given the ~US$40 you mentioned earlier... ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko site off-line?
On Jul 9, 2007, at 1:04 PM, ted braak wrote: Can't reach the site anymore. It's just really slow. We're trying to increase our capacity but please give us some time. Our system admin / gsmd architect is passed out from exhaustion. He just landed in Taiwan. ;-) -Sean___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Store info - shipping costs, credit card support
I'm still getting a blank page after submitting step 1... On 7/8/07, Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2007-07-09 at 07:49 +1200, Nick Johnson wrote: I just bought one. The only shipping option listed was SAVER at a wince-inducing $85.13 USD to ship to New Zealand. As for credit cards: Visa and American Express only. We just added MasterCard. -Sean ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [France] Grouping orders,
I'll be interested *if* the GTA02 is to be delivered as a board only. If not, or if you want to order before it's known whether the board-only version will be offered, don't wait for me... On 7/3/07, Foucault de Bonneval [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Openmokogeeks, will it be possible for FIC to group some GTA01 shipping ? If yes, does some of you living in Paris would like to share the shipping cost ? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OPENMOKO.COM IS UP
BTW, has anyone of you received confirmation (other than from RT) from OpenMoko that your request is being processed? I did not and neither are there any operations on my credit card from OpenMoko shop. I guess there are going to be some delays in shipping... cheers cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 Board only option in October?
I'm very excited about the Neo1973 and OpenMoko, but I can't justify buying one now and a whole new one in October. I've decided to wait because the WiFi is important enough to me. However, if there will be a board-only option in October that would make a Phase I Neo + a Phase II board not *too* much more expensive than just a Phase II Neo, then I'd buy one right now! Any (semi-)official word on availability and pricing of a Phase II board-only option would be much appreciated. Thanks, Marco -- It is often forgotten that (dictionaries) are artificial repositories, put together well after the languages they define. The roots of language are irrational and of a magical nature. - Jorge Luis Borges, writer (1899-1986) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: gmail.com problems and this list
Can someone with admin access to the list machine send me the SMTP logs for one of the duplicated messages? I'm working in the Gmail group at Google for the summer and I can have someone try to diagnose the problem from this end. The full SMTP logs would be helpful. Thanks, Marco On Sun, Jul 08, 2007 at 01:36:08PM -0400, thus spake David Ford: Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: David Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The log that I posted showed the initial retransmit happening within google's gmail servers. The log you showed is exactly want I'd expect if gmail timed out due to a slow 250 reply to the data phase of the SMTP (eg. the final OK didn't happen quickly enough for its liking.) Or am I missing something? -wolfgang You're missing something. point A is origin, point B is gmail, point C is gmail, point D is destination. From point B to point C is where resending is happening. gmail-B keeps resending to gmail-C who then sends it to the destination. I'm getting dupes from everybody sending mail via gmail. Dupes to the list and dupes from person to person. -david ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Absolute faith corrupts as absolutely as absolute power. - Eric Hoffer, philosopher and author (1902-1983) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OPENMOKO.COM IS UP
Somebody on the IRC channel earlier was saying shipping is slated for the 16th. AFAIK, ship dates have not been confirmed by anyone from FIC/OpenMoko. Last we heard, the phones were in customs as they were being air-mailed to California. From there, they are supposed to be distributed. -Jason On Tuesday 10 July 2007 00:31:30 Krzysztof Kajkowski wrote: BTW, has anyone of you received confirmation (other than from RT) from OpenMoko that your request is being processed? I did not and neither are there any operations on my credit card from OpenMoko shop. I guess there are going to be some delays in shipping... cheers cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko site off-line?
maybe it's slashdotted good thing :-) marco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community