When and what to expect from Phase 2
Hi all, As someone who is holding-off on buying the iPhone in favor of the OpenMoko Phase 2 release - what can I expect from Phase 2? I have heard September mentioned for Phase 2 - is this correct and are there any firm dates? Is the release likely to be pushed back? What can consumers expect from Phase 2? Will there be more devices other than the Neo? and if so, are they likely to be cheaper or more expensive than the Neo? Thanks! Dave ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: UPS tracking number wrong, but [EMAIL PROTECTED] responds permission denied
Myk Melez wrote: I tried to reply to my Order shipped message, since the UPS tracking number listed in the message is not recognized by UPS's online package tracking app (it says the number is not a valid tracking number), but [EMAIL PROTECTED] responded Permission denied (see below). Update: my wife says the package has arrived, so although the tracking number didn't work, UPS did actually ship the package. Can't wait to return home from my trip and open it. -myk ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Where's the Micro-SD?
On 7/31/07, Joe Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not physically -- I had no problem plugging it into the phone. But where does it appear to the software? where is it in /dev? Is it automatically mounted at boot time? What's the mountpoint? Foolish question, I know... ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo1973#Using_your_micro-SD_card Regards, Marc ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: When and what to expect from Phase 2
On 7/31/07, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, As someone who is holding-off on buying the iPhone in favor of the OpenMoko Phase 2 release - what can I expect from Phase 2? I have heard September mentioned for Phase 2 - is this correct and are there any firm dates? Is the release likely to be pushed back? What can consumers expect from Phase 2? Will there be more devices other than the Neo? and if so, are they likely to be cheaper or more expensive than the Neo? Thanks! Dave ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Dave, All this info can be found on the wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_How_can_I_find_out_if_a_question_or_topic_has_already_been_discussed_on_the_mailing_lists.3F http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02#.22Phase_2.22_.28GTA02.2C_.22Mass_Market.22.29 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/IPhone http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Applications Regards, Marc ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 3G sim cards
On 7/29/07, Andy Poling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many people (including I) have not been able to get the att 3g sim card (the one with the 3g fireball) working in our neos. The older cingular ones do work (they are 64K smart chip). I can make calls using the cingular 3G sim card. I dont know much about SIM cards/networks but it says 3G on it and its by cingular. Is there a way to confirm that its 3G ? I have two cingular 64K smart chip SIMs that won't work in the neo1973 (CME 10), but they both work in both my razr and sierra ac860 card. Both SIMs are about 9-10 months old now - maybe they changed a while back while keeping similar markings? On the back, one says 3G (with a tiny c after it) and has the numbers 64205G and 3020. The other also has 3G(c) and has 64205O (capital o) and 4020. I dug up an old SIM (also cingular) that does work (so I know the GSM chip and SIM socket aren't faulty), but that account is no longer active. -Andy ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- -- http://pd.dnsalias.org ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
MacOS X users get together!
Hi! I know there are some MacOS users here. Let's get together and write down some notes on using Neo1973 with your Macs. I started http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MacOS_X where you can already find some interesting information and references to other sites. I know that Linux guys (geeks ;) very often use Macs since it's a nice and functional gadget. And I guess many of them would buy Neo1973 since it would be nice and functional ;) I think that after end-user release there should be some solutions for connecting your Mac and Neo. cheers cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: camera? yes please! ..
consider me as another yes-vote for the camera. i cannot imagine a life without a mobile-phone-camera so i'm very disappointed about that there will be no cam within my Neo1973 in oct!! wvrn ps.: sorry for the late reply due to vacation Am Dienstag, den 24.07.2007, 17:16 +0200 schrieb Jay Vaughan: .. count me in for a definite yes-vote for the camera, i believe it is an excellent user interface .. and, does anyone know when the openmoko devkits are going to be shipped? we're waiting for ours here in vienna, and i wanna be able to plan my play time! ; jay ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
GTA02 status updates please
Hello Openmoko folks, please keep us in the loop regarding the GTA02 development. How is it progressing? Do you have pictures of the inside of the prototypes already? Is it still on track for the October release date? The last update on GTA02 was more than a month ago. Thanks, -Sven Neuhaus ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Anyone, not billed yet?
Hi all, I just couldn't resist the urge to ask if there are anyone here who had ordered the development release but *not been billed* yet. Especially anxious since there has not been any word of the second batch, AFAIK (ordered it on 11 July, around 0500 hours GMT). Sorry folks, but when all the others are getting to play, hack and cuddle with the neo, I feel jealous and left alone =(. Me want me neo... Regards Sudharshan S ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anyone, not billed yet?
Hello Sudharshan, Yes I haven't been billed yet. My order id is #2018, ordered 9 July, around 08:30 CST (Taiwan time). Joachim roh Steiger did confirm that my order is in the system and that my YES_I_DO email was received successfully. I was also asking anxiously about this on #openmoko last night and a couple of theories were that OpenMoko may be having problems importing the Neo1973 P1s into Taiwan or that my billing address for my credit card (i.e. it's different from the delivery address) may be slowing things up - can anyone confirm these theories? Thanks in advance, Tim On Tue, 2007-07-31 at 14:12 +0530, Sudharshan S wrote: Hi all, I just couldn't resist the urge to ask if there are anyone here who had ordered the development release but *not been billed* yet. Especially anxious since there has not been any word of the second batch, AFAIK (ordered it on 11 July, around 0500 hours GMT). Sorry folks, but when all the others are getting to play, hack and cuddle with the neo, I feel jealous and left alone =(. Me want me neo... Regards Sudharshan S ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Camera.. again.. but this time just as info for future products
I just read this info about a new small single-chip-camera. Such a thing would be cool. http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/so-tiny/worlds-smallest-single-chip-camera-is-really-small-283823.php -- My corner of the web: http://ramsesoriginal.wordpress.com My dream, my world: http://abenu.wordpress.com ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anyone, not billed yet?
I haven't been billed yet either, order #2312. This may have been a problem with the YES_I_DO response, as I think I missed this clause: /Please note that it is important to leave the subject of the mail intact, and that your response comes from the original email that you used to make this order./ The subject was intact, but I think I deleted the old body of the email (can't remember though, was in a hurry). Regards Ulrik On Tuesday 31 July 2007 10:42, Sudharshan S wrote: Hi all, I just couldn't resist the urge to ask if there are anyone here who had ordered the development release but *not been billed* yet. Especially anxious since there has not been any word of the second batch, AFAIK (ordered it on 11 July, around 0500 hours GMT). Sorry folks, but when all the others are getting to play, hack and cuddle with the neo, I feel jealous and left alone =(. Me want me neo... Regards Sudharshan S ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anyone, not billed yet?
Hello, On 7/31/07, Sudharshan S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just couldn't resist the urge to ask if there are anyone here who had ordered the development release but *not been billed* yet. Especially Yes, I have order number 2775, and haven't been billed yet. anxious since there has not been any word of the second batch, AFAIK (ordered it on 11 July, around 0500 hours GMT). Sorry folks, but when all the others are getting to play, hack and cuddle with the neo, I feel jealous and left alone =(. I feel the same way. :-) -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 Board only option in October?
Steve wrote: Ian Stirling wrote: I would like to see a bare GTA01 board being available - even after GTA02 becomes available. snip Looking at the Photos of the current version, the processor appears to be BGA. That'll make some things a bit hard. It'd be really nice if FIC routed any unused pins out from under the chip for us, *if* they have the board real estate for it. That'd be GTA01v5 or something. If they are making an actual new PCB, there are many interesting options. Personally, I'd like the ports that will be used for the wifi card in GTA02 brought out to a header to which a full-sized SD card can be connected. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 status updates please
On 07/31/2007 Sven Neuhaus wrote: Hello Openmoko folks, please keep us in the loop regarding the GTA02 development. How is it progressing? Do you have pictures of the inside of the prototypes already? Is it still on track for the October release date? The last update on GTA02 was more than a month ago. I'll ping mokoninja. Gives him a day or so... -Sean ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anyone, not billed yet?
On 31 Jul 2007, at 16:55, Clayton Jones wrote: That's very interesting, becuase i have order #2308 and haven't heard a peep in almost a month since replying with the YES_I_DO email... no charges either... i'm guessing i'm also in the 2nd batch for mid-august? Regards, clayton It all depends on colour choice and base or advanced. Mid-august seems a long way off, two weeks, maybe 3 or so before receiving one. While I can use the emulator for many things, you can't make a call with an emulator and see what needs work. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anyone, not billed yet?
ow. So what time frame can i expect being order #3056 (base, blk/slv)? dan On 7/31/07, Nelson Castillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: n 7/31/07, Clayton Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's very interesting, becuase i have order #2308 and haven't heard a peep in almost a month since replying with the YES_I_DO email... no charges either... i'm guessing i'm also in the 2nd batch for mid-august? Same here, #2325. Waiting. Regards. -- http://arhuaco.org http://emQbit.com ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anyone, not billed yet?
On Tue, 2007-07-31 at 14:12 +0530, Sudharshan S wrote: I just couldn't resist the urge to ask if there are anyone here who had ordered the development release but *not been billed* yet. Especially anxious since there has not been any word of the second batch, AFAIK (ordered it on 11 July, around 0500 hours GMT). Sorry folks, but when all the others are getting to play, hack and cuddle with the neo, I feel jealous and left alone =(. I asked for a creamsicle-colored Neo, and I haven't gotten any kind of billing or shipping notification yet. I presume that they haven't yet shipped the second batch. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 status updates please
On 7/31/07, Sven Neuhaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: please keep us in the loop regarding the GTA02 development. How is it Id like some more status of the P1. How many phones have been made? (ive heard 1000) Have all those phones been sold? Are there plans to manufacture more P1 units? When? Basically if I order a P1 today, will there be one to buy? It'd be nice if the sales website had a count of remaining units. Don ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anyone, not billed yet?
Dan Trevino wrote: ow. So what time frame can i expect being order #3056 (base, blk/slv)? And when can I tell my developer friends that they can buy one and it'll arrive in a week. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: US: T-Mobile plans
While I've not done so in the last few months, I have done a lot of work in J2ME games. T-Mobile has a definite walled-garden mentality on some aspects of web access. For the last couple of years (unless they've changed very recently) while they have allowed browsing of most internet sites, they have not allowed JAR files to be downloaded from non-approved sites. This could be gotten around with special SIMs if you have a developer relationship with T-Mobile. There might be fewer restrictions on the Mobile Internet vs. Mobile Web. - John Nkoli wrote: The only difference between T-Mobile Web and T-Mobile Internet on the phone is that T-Mobile Internet allows VPN while T-Mobile Web doesn't. You can access any arbitrary html or wap site on your phone with both plans. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anyone, not billed yet?
Hi Liane, Thanks a lot for the quick answer, that made me relax :). Regards Ulrik On Tuesday 31 July 2007 17:09:11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Ulrik, We got your reply with YES_I_DO, and your order is still on our system, don't worry. Your order will be processed on 2nd batch of the shipment which is around mid-August. Thanks. -Liane at FIC From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 代理 Ulrik Rasmussen Sent: 2007/7/31 [星期二] 下午 06:30 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Anyone, not billed yet? I haven't been billed yet either, order #2312. This may have been a problem with the YES_I_DO response, as I think I missed this clause: /Please note that it is important to leave the subject of the mail intact, and that your response comes from the original email that you used to make this order./ The subject was intact, but I think I deleted the old body of the email (can't remember though, was in a hurry). Regards Ulrik On Tuesday 31 July 2007 10:42, Sudharshan S wrote: Hi all, I just couldn't resist the urge to ask if there are anyone here who had ordered the development release but *not been billed* yet. Especially anxious since there has not been any word of the second batch, AFAIK (ordered it on 11 July, around 0500 hours GMT). Sorry folks, but when all the others are getting to play, hack and cuddle with the neo, I feel jealous and left alone =(. Me want me neo... Regards Sudharshan S ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [UI/Graphics] Ever heard of graff ?
On 7/30/07, Jay Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cairo, as suggested, will not be an option in near future, since it does 32bpp graphics and the conversion will kill our hardware. fwiw, its quite feasible to do nice assembly-based BPP conversion on ARM and involves a decidedly negligible hit on performance .. don't count cairo out of the libpack just yet .. it's not about the conversion itself, but the data. 16bpp versus 32bpp: - opaque images: 2 bytes versus 3 bytes (alignment!) - alpha images: 3 bytes (alpha in separate plane) versus 4 bytes - rgb * a: 1 arithmetic operation versus 3. This is due the fact that you can downscale a to 5 bits and then operate rgb (16bits) on a 32bit word, just move 6 bits of G from the pack to the other half-word and then you can fit the overflow. Also, in order to look barely good you need to apply dither mask to images, otherwise you get weird gradients, they become blocky. With 32bpp-16 you need to convert always, while with 16bpp you do at load time. For sure quality is not as good, since you lost many bits, but it's the price of performance... you can try to improve things (like this dither thing), but not much room is left. As for counting cairo out, sure not. But use it for specific scope. EFL does no vector graphics (just line, rectangle and polygon, I'd not count it as vector graphics lib) and if you have to draw charts, complex paths, etc... it's the best option. However, even UIs being scalable, they're basically described by pixmaps. It's insane to calculate a gradient on real time just to get a smooth blend: using a gradient pixmap and maybe using (even smooth) scaling would look as good, but use less CPU. Same for rounded corners, you can have a path to describe it, but a smart blit algorithm would be as fast. BTW, evas have a cairo backend, so you can mix both if required. Other backends, like xrender, opengl, fb and directfb are supported as well. -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri -- Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ#: 17249123 Skype: gsbarbieri Mobile: +55 (81) 9927 0010 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
$3000 roaming Iphone/ATT story
http://www.boingboing.net/2007/07/31/att_iphone_intl_roam.html; I guess that happens if you dont know what you are really charged for when locked into a provider such as ATT. Even more reason to have an unlocked phone. If you want to unlock the Iphone, all you have is a PDA. It should be clear that the Iphone is a bit dead in the water. Anyway, this definitely helps to justify the wait for the FIC NEO. This looks like to me as if you HAVE TO use ATT when in Europe!? No wonder it is so expensive to roam. If this is true, the the Iphone is a dead duck for business. Seemingly the poor Iphone users cannot negotiate better deals, why because there is no competition .. only ATT for the Iphone. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Anyone, not billed yet?
I asked for a creamsicle-colored Neo, and I haven't gotten any kind of billing or shipping notification yet. I presume that they haven't yet shipped the second batch. Same here... my order# is below #2000, and I haven't been billed for mine yet. So, like you, I'm hoping all is well with my order and we're just waiting for the orange ones to get billed/shipped. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: US: T-Mobile plans
Are you sure this wasn't a certificate issue on your jar file. I had no trouble downloading J2ME apps last year using T-Mobile US and my own web site. For some of the handsets you needed to hack the root certificate in the phone or in the Sprint case download a developer certificate to the phone. I can't see how the SIM would have any effect on this. In principle, it can store the root certificate but in my experience the handset developers chose not to implement that part of the standards. I guess I'll find out when I get my own Neo. Eric John Seghers wrote: While I’ve not done so in the last few months, I have done a lot of work in J2ME games. T-Mobile has a definite “walled-garden” mentality on some aspects of web access. For the last couple of years (unless they’ve changed very recently) while they have allowed browsing of most internet sites, they have not allowed JAR files to be downloaded from non-approved sites. This could be gotten around with special SIMs if you have a developer relationship with T-Mobile. There might be fewer restrictions on the “Mobile Internet” vs. “Mobile Web”. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MacOS X users get together!
I know there are some MacOS users here. Let's get together and write down some notes on using Neo1973 with your Macs. I started http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MacOS_X where you can already find some interesting information and references to other sites. I know that Linux guys (geeks ;) very often use Macs since it's a nice and functional gadget. And I guess many of them would buy Neo1973 since it would be nice and functional ;) I think that after end-user release there should be some solutions for connecting your Mac and Neo. Great! I will contribute as soon as I have my Neo... ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: US: T-Mobile plans
No, it was definitely the SIM. Certain handsets with certain SIMs would not download off our server (They would download the JAD, but not the JAR)--and the JAR was being blocked, it wasn't a case of it downloading and then refusing to install because of a bad certificate. Changing the SIM would allow it to proceed. Also, log into Samsung's developer boards and you will find commentary that other developers were running into the same issue. - John Eric Johnson wrote: Are you sure this wasn't a certificate issue on your jar file. I had no trouble downloading J2ME apps last year using T-Mobile US and my own web site. For some of the handsets you needed to hack the root certificate in the phone or in the Sprint case download a developer certificate to the phone. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 3G sim cards
Can you tell me the numbers on the chip side of the SIM? Not the 20 digit ICCID but the 5 digit SKU followed by a letter and then the 4 digit Vendor and Version number underneath it. For example GD cards say 71234 D 2202 Eric Pranav Desai wrote: On 7/29/07, *Andy Poling* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many people (including I) have not been able to get the att 3g sim card (the one with the 3g fireball) working in our neos. The older cingular ones do work (they are 64K smart chip). I can make calls using the cingular 3G sim card. I dont know much about SIM cards/networks but it says 3G on it and its by cingular. Is there a way to confirm that its 3G ? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 3G sim cards
Here is a Cingular pay-as-you-go SIM: 73000G3021 Eric Johnson wrote: Can you tell me the numbers on the chip side of the SIM? Not the 20 digit ICCID but the 5 digit SKU followed by a letter and then the 4 digit Vendor and Version number underneath it. For example GD cards say 71234 D 2202 Eric Pranav Desai wrote: On 7/29/07, *Andy Poling* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many people (including I) have not been able to get the att 3g sim card (the one with the 3g fireball) working in our neos. The older cingular ones do work (they are 64K smart chip). I can make calls using the cingular 3G sim card. I dont know much about SIM cards/networks but it says 3G on it and its by cingular. Is there a way to confirm that its 3G ? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Michael Welter Telecom Matters Corp. Denver, Colorado US +1.303.414.4980 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.TelecomMatters.net ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MacOS X users get together!
On 31 Jul 2007, at 20:35, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: I know there are some MacOS users here. Let's get together and write down some notes on using Neo1973 with your Macs. I started http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MacOS_X where you can already find some interesting information and references to other sites. I know that Linux guys (geeks ;) very often use Macs since it's a nice and functional gadget. And I guess many of them would buy Neo1973 since it would be nice and functional ;) I think that after end-user release there should be some solutions for connecting your Mac and Neo. Great! I will contribute as soon as I have my Neo... Same here. I use a Mac pro for audio work so I can't use Linux as it doesn't have the same quality software. I currently have the dev environment running in Linux on Parallels desktop. I have Bluetooth in the PC and I think this is how I'd connect the two as I don't like cables. Would be nice to have a sort of easy bluetooth activation method. Maybe have a sync option that enables bluetooth then disables is after the sync. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 3G sim cards
Michael Welter wrote: Here is a Cingular pay-as-you-go SIM: 73000G3021 Does that SIM work? It is a Gemalto SIM and to the best of my knowledge is identical to the latest cards from Gemalto apart from the rebranding to ATT. The new ATT branded cards should be marked 71234 G 3022 Eric ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Where's the Micro-SD?
Brad Midgley writes: it mounts on /media/card if it has a supported filesystem (fat/ext2) Ah. The problem was I'd installed a rootfs but not a new kernel, so I didn't have any modules. New kernel - access to micro-sd. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: I think my sim card slot is busted
On 7/31/07, Marc Verwerft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/31/07, Shakthi Kannan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On 7/31/07, Benjamin Flanagin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: calls beyond emergency numbers. What am I looking for in the gsmd.log and or when I use the at+cimi command? Not sure about the gsmd.log. The wiki doesn't give me any clue as to what a none working sim card looks like apposed to a working one. Any hints would be appreciated. AT+CIMI should return the 15-digit IMSI (International Mobile Subscriber Identity) number from the SIM card. The PIN should be entered before you can read the number. Its your identity number. Don't reveal it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMSI -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community According to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo1973#Inserting_the_SIM_card_.28optional.29 the holder needs to be locked. I first didn't know how it locks but apparently you do it by slightly pushing the holder direction top (opposite of opening it). As soon as I had done that, it worked. I could dial a number using gsmd and libgsmd-tool. Regards, Marc Oops, pushing it to the top opens the holder and to the bottom locks the SIM card in place. Don't want ruin somebody else's Neo ... ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: US: T-Mobile plans
On 7/31/07, John Seghers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, it was definitely the SIM. Certain handsets with certain SIMs would not download off our server (They would download the JAD, but not the JAR)--and the JAR was being blocked, it wasn't a case of it downloading and then refusing to install because of a bad certificate. Changing the SIM would allow it to proceed. Also, log into Samsung's developer boards and you will find commentary that other developers were running into the same issue. - John I wouldn't put it past any telco to do something like that. I never encountered it myself on tmobile, but I generally only browse with gprs/edge and save downloads for wifi or pc. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Hardware Recommendations - Desktop Bluetooth Module
Does anyone have a good recommendation for a Bluetooth module/adapter for the desktop ? Features: Bluetooth 2.0, good support under Ubuntu, and also provide most all of the Bluetooth profiles. I don't mind a dongle, but would think that having an internal card would be less likely to get broken...since a dongle would always be protruding from the case. Thoughts, opinions? What does everyone else use? -Jonathon ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [UI/Graphics] Ever heard of graff ?
it's not about the conversion itself, but the data. libcairo + librsvg == data galore. As for counting cairo out, sure not. But use it for specific scope. Indeed, its a standard in my GUI toolkit at this point .. soon as I get a neo in my hands, I'll have a go at getting it rendering a small SVG suite as soon as I can .. However, even UIs being scalable, they're basically described by pixmaps. It's insane to calculate a gradient on real time just to get a smooth blend: using a gradient pixmap and maybe using (even smooth) scaling would look as good, but use less CPU. Same for rounded corners, you can have a path to describe it, but a smart blit algorithm would be as fast. Its nicer to render vectors to your destination buffer/pix format than do pixel processing from a bitmap file format, imho. The extra boot-up time (to render SVG as needed) is a matter of taste, of course, but I never count out the idea of a display-list render loop until I've tried running it on targetted hardware .. BTW, evas have a cairo backend, so you can mix both if required. Other backends, like xrender, opengl, fb and directfb are supported as well. Be nice to do the SDL dance too, because there are some fantastic SDL apps in the world .. j. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Hardware Recommendations - Desktop Bluetooth Module
On 31 Jul 2007, at 22:38, Jonathon Suggs wrote: Does anyone have a good recommendation for a Bluetooth module/ adapter for the desktop ? Features: Bluetooth 2.0, good support under Ubuntu, and also provide most all of the Bluetooth profiles. I don't mind a dongle, but would think that having an internal card would be less likely to get broken...since a dongle would always be protruding from the case. Thoughts, opinions? What does everyone else use? -Jonathon I have a Belkin F8T002 ver 2 USB module that works well. I believe they mostly use a standard chip. Just like USB chips are OHCI etc... ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
