Re: Apple's heavy hand an opportunity for Linux smartphones likeOpenMoko
I second that! - Original Message From: Pius A. Uzamere II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: List for OpenMoko community discussion Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 8:47:03 PM Subject: Re: Apple's heavy hand an opportunity for Linux smartphones likeOpenMoko IMHO, that's just the sort of sentiment that, if embraced by FIC, will guarantee that this phone is not successful. If a phone ships with a closed or otherwise flawed stack, a fix is just a firmware update away. Once you put a crappy form factor into the market, however, you're typically finished in the long term. Remember, your competitors can iterate their software faster than you can iterate your form factor once units are put into production. I want this project to be successful . . . let's not get so idealistic that we lose focus of the realities of the market. In any case, the neo isn't about schnazz, it's about freedom. Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Apple's heavy hand an opportunity for Linuxsmartphones likeOpenMoko
[EMAIL PROTECTED] skrev: This is not about style. This is about optimum human/device interaction form factors. It is the size and shape and layout of the iPhone that strongly influences the usability of the device. And...And...Who says you can't want style --AND-- freedom? Have not got my Neo jet (hope it's soon), but I think the form factor is good based on earlier use of a touch screen smart phone (Qtech 1010). I think the size and shape will make it fit nicely in one hand and be operated with the same hands thumb. Small (physical) screen reduce the need to stretch Your thumb to reach the whole screen, some space between the phones edge and the screens edge is good as my experience is it's hard to reach to close to the thumb (if you rest the phone natural in the hand). Two-hand operation will more or less always work almost any form factor. But the Q1010 is to big to be a comfortable one-hand device... Belive the Neo to be just right... Then... No size fits all. Anyway, it's too late to start from scratch and be ready in 6 month. Now is time to focus on getting the software and interface good. I'm experimenting with an input method, but right now I'm waiting until I receive my Neo... I really need to test it on a real device to get the feel of it (and hopefullyy the project site's svn is fixed by then). If we succeed at OpenMoko the software platform sure there will be loots of phone using it, from FIC and others, and probably some will use the 'iphone' form factor... Don't worry :-) /LaH ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Sony Ericsson P990i
To All Hackers (out there), I would like to run OpenMoko in Sony Ericsson P990i. I know this would be possible (think positive). Based on what I've gathered, here's the P990i hardware: CPU: Philips Nexperia PNX4008 RAM: 64Mb NAND 133Mhz SDR SDRAM ROM: 64Mb NAND Flash Screen: 320 x 240 (Touchscreen) InfoLinks: - P990i Info form SE Site - P990i @ wikipedia.org - P990i @ fudzilla.com - Nexperia PNX4008 @ nxp.com Since this P990i with UIQ3 is really buggy, I'm willing for my phone to be a test phone. It's OK for it to get bricked. That's how SE P990i disappointed me. Thank you very much. - Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids.___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Do anyone use bluetooth headset Neo1973?
Richard
It's not a good idea to mix the old audio drivers (btsco, headsetd,
a2dpd) with the new ("bluetooth" in asound.conf). If you want to try a
voice headset, the best way is to get python and follow the example on
the wiki--this uses only the new driver and should not have the
default device set in asound.conf.
Right now the voice headset should work with a phone call but I
haven't confirmed it (I only have access to the dreaded "3g" sim
cards)
Brad
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Re: Qtopia coming for Neo1973
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007, Lorn Potter wrote: Not by the operating system, or the LGPL, but by the culture surrounding it. How many commercial closed source applications are available for Linux? Hi Lorn, Couldn't let that go, they are increasing rapidly - here are just a few that are used in the University where I work. Although there are open source products in these areas, these commercial ones are big time: Mathematica, Matlab, SAS statistical software, Ansys (Engineering design). regards, clare ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Do anyone use bluetooth headset Neo1973?
Yes, the headset is in pairing mode, and there are no another phone.
When running "sdptool records ", the messages as blow:
Service Name: Hands-Free unit
Service RecHandle: 0x1
Service Class ID List:
"Handsfree" (0x111e)
"Generic Audio" (0x1203)
Protocol Descriptor List:
"L2CAP" (0x0100)
"RFCOMM" (0x0003)
Channel: 1
Language Base Attr List:
code_ISO639: 0x656e
encoding:0x6a
base_offset: 0x100
Profile Descriptor List:
"Handsfree" (0x111e)
Version: 0x0101
Service Name: Headset
Service RecHandle: 0x10001
Service Class ID List:
"Headset" (0x1108)
"Generic Audio" (0x1203)
Protocol Descriptor List:
"L2CAP" (0x0100)
"RFCOMM" (0x0003)
Channel: 2
Language Base Attr List:
code_ISO639: 0x656e
encoding:0x6a
base_offset: 0x100
Profile Descriptor List:
"Headset" (0x1108)
Version: 0x0100
But when running "./btsco -v 00:12:C8:90:59:8C", it print
btsco v0.42
Device is 1:0
Voice setting: 0x0060
RFCOMM channel 2 connected
Using interface hci0
then running "aplay -D plughw:Headset song.wav", it print
speaker volume: 0 mic volume: 0
i/o needed: connecting sco...
connected SCO channel
Done setting sco fd
But there are no sco message(sco:0)
hci0: Type: USB
BD Address: 00:06:6E:14:3A:4F ACL MTU: 384:8 SCO MTU: 64:8
UP RUNNING PSCAN
RX bytes:4517 acl:55 sco:0 events:173 errors:0
TX bytes:1716 acl:46 sco:0 commands:64 errors:0
/etc/asound.conf
pcm.!default {
type bluetooth
device "00:12:C8:90:59:8C"
}
/etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf
options {
# Automatically initialize new devices
autoinit yes;
# Security Manager mode
# none - Security manager disabled
# auto - Use local PIN for incoming connections
# user - Always ask user for a PIN
#
security auto;
# Pairing mode
# none - Pairing disabled
# multi - Allow pairing with already paired devices
# once - Pair once and deny successive attempts
pairing multi;
# Default PIN code for incoming connections
passkey "";
}
# Default settings for HCI devices
device {
# Local device name
# %d - device id
# %h - host name
name "BlueZ (%d)";
# Local device class
class 0x120112;
# Default packet type
#pkt_type DH1,DM1,HV1;
# Inquiry and Page scan
iscan enable; pscan enable;
# Default link mode
# none - no specific policy
# accept - always accept incoming connections
# master - become master on incoming connections,
#deny role switch on outgoing connections
lm accept;
# Default link policy
# none- no specific policy
# rswitch - allow role switch
# hold- allow hold mode
# sniff - allow sniff mode
# park- allow park mode
lp rswitch,hold,sniff,park;
}
/etc/bluetooth/rfcomm.conf
rfcomm0 {
# Automatically bind the device at startup
bind no;
# Bluetooth address of the device
device 00:12:C8:90:59:8C;
# RFCOMM channel for the connection
channel 1;
# Description of the connection
comment "Example Bluetooth device";
}
BTW: At last when running "alsactl -f /etc/alsa/gsmbluetooth.state
restore", it print
No state is present for card Headset
No state is present for card Handsfree
and no sound in headset when take a call
Thanks!
Regards,
Richard
在 2007-09-28五的 23:08 -0600，Brad Midgley写道：
> Richard
>
> Make sure the headset is in pairing mode. If you've used the headset
> with another phone, you might turn off that phone to keep things
> simple.
>
> btw, running "sdptool records " is another good test.
>
> Brad
>
> On 9/28/07, root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I config bluetooth in accordance with the steps of
> > Manually_using_Bluetooth(http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_Bluetooth).
> > I can scan headset(hcitool scan), but when use command "sdptool browse",
> > it unsuccessed with "failed to connect to SDP server on xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:
> > permission denied".
> >
> > Is there any proposal?
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Richard
> >
> >
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